bulgogi...and other %$#@

henapple

Ill preface this by saying i've been up 28 hours...

Saw a post today about bulgogi...sorry, can't remember who. Being the country boy I am i had to Wiki and find out what the hell it is. Cruising the net I found a recipe for bulgogi burgers and thought...why not. Try finding Korean recipe items in M'boro...not happening. Finally found a recipe containing the items i could get my hands on.

Mixed the ingredients and marinaded the ground sirloin. I asked the butcher at Kroger to grind me two flat iron steaks but she said she couldn't because blah, blah, blah..

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Decided to sear instead of reverse sear since it was sirloin but merely seared both sides till 160. Am i the only one that misses medium rare burgers? After @travisstrick got the poopies i'm scared to eat a bloody burger.

They were ok. I'm not an expert on Korean food so i can't say whether i messed up or not. My wife isn't a culinary adventurer so i cooked regular burgers for her. The best part was the nut brown ale...

I probably shouldn't have cooked after being up so long but dammit, that's what eggers do. I didn't want to sleep so i spent all day trying to find an Paella pan. I found one...$225 was the best price I could find so finally i quit. My neighbor stopped by and after our conversation brought me his and a cookbook. Tomorrow I'll try another new cook. Found a low end Wusthof at TJMaxx...better than the butter knife I've been working with.

Henapple...Out.

travisstrick

I still haven't eaten a burger.

caliking

I think you should give it another chance after you're well rested.  I've been up for a few days on end before and food doesn't taste right when you're running on fumes. Price for the paella pan is reedunkulous.  Check places like TJ Maxx or garage sales. 

For a medium rare burger,  i would probably want to grind the meat at home myself. Or maybe i just like handling my own meat... 

mgoblue0484

Hey, that was my bulgogi post, I have been recognized by the great and powerful henapple. My life is complete. Try my version, I think it is damn tasty! http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1156927/beef-bulgogi-and-stuffed-hatch-peppers#latest

Botch

The poopies, like the flu and getting fired, are good 2 or 3 times per lifetime to make you stronger.

 

I had Yaki Mandu and Ramyun soup for lunch today, but it wasn't egged (I don't think).  Love Korean food!  

JohnInCarolina

Bulgogi is pretty amazing when it's done right. Before long we'll have you burying jars of kimchee in your backyard.

henapple

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mgoblue0484 said:

Hey, that was my bulgogi post, I have been recognized by the great and powerful henapple. My life is complete. Try my version, I think it is damn tasty!

http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1156927/beef-bulgogi-and-stuffed-hatch-peppers#latest

Sorry man.. Too tired to go back and find that you had posted it. Yours looked great... Come to salado, cook that and I'll bring the scotch and cigars.

Sorry again.

Letz4wheel

@henapple Could this work? Head to pittsburg and get you one. http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-CRS15-Pre-Seasoned-Skillet-15-inch/dp/B009418TN6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379745528&sr=8-2&keywords=lodge+carbon+steel

mgoblue0484

No need to apologize! Please, we are all adults here. Sounds good, next time I visit my in laws, I'll look you up.

Ragtop99

Nut brown ale is always a win.

Austin Egghead

Here is a link for paella pan
http://www.tienda.com/paella/products/pp-03.html?kw={keyword}&gclid=CJ6S773b3rkCFatj7AodfyQA7A
If you want a med rare burger then grind your own from either a brisket or sirloin cut. Grind it fresh and you should be ok. That is the only time I eat med raw hamburger. I trust our butcher, even his ground meat my burger is dead meat walking.

henapple

Being a culinary idiot I had to look this up. The article's premise was that the bacteria lives on the outside flesh only but once ground incorporates itself throughout. Would this not be true of any meat?

Austin Egghead

That is true. There is bacteria present on anything including fresh meat. Most bacteria we ingest does not cause GI problems, but there are some that do. Most all are heat labile at cooking temps and some require high temp and pressure to be neutralized.
The problem with ground meat is the amount of surface area, how clean was the grinder, the temp storage and the time between when it was ground and when it is consumed...all these are factors for bacterial growth.
Bacteria is present on a fresh cut of meat, but probably not in the quantity that will cause any problems, and, the time between the grind and consumed, or frozen, is very short. (Most bacteria don't cause problems but there are some that either the bacteria itself or its toxins produced will cause problems)

Skiddymarker

henapple said:

Being a culinary idiot I had to look this up. The article's premise was that the bacteria lives on the outside flesh only but once ground incorporates itself throughout. Would this not be true of any meat?

Yes, I think this to be true of any meat. That's why the USDA cooking guidelines have the temps they have. When you think about it, a sirloin steak can be cooked to 145º, but if you grind it for a burger or cube it for kabobs the safe temp is 160º. 

The bigger question is always the debate on grass finished vs feedlot grain finished cattle. E-Coli count can exist in both, but if I understand it correctly, the count of e-coli on grain finished cattle can be thousands of times higher than on grass finished. it is hard to know what you are eating. 

henapple

Does freezing kill the bacteria?

Skiddymarker

henapple said:

Does freezing kill the bacteria?

Again, the way I understand it, no. Freezing preserves the bacteria in the state it is in, when it thaws it carries on where it left off before it was "allowed to sleep". When you think about, if freezing killed bacteria, Alaska might be one of the most sterile places on the planet. Unfortunately cooking to temp above what us carnivores prefer is the only true safe method, damn! 

HeathBar

No that's how we store it when doing research. Frozen in either liquid nitrogen or regular freezer.

Skiddymarker said:

henapple said:

Does freezing kill the bacteria?

Again, the way I understand it, no. Freezing preserves the bacteria in the state it is in, when it thaws it carries on where it left off before it was "allowed to sleep". When you think about, if freezing killed bacteria, Alaska might be one of the most sterile places on the planet. Unfortunately cooking to temp above what us carnivores prefer is the only true safe method, damn! 

henapple

Going with that theory all meat would be bacteria free in Phoenix AZ during the summer...

Skiddymarker

henapple said:

Going with that theory all meat would be bacteria free in Phoenix AZ during the summer...

Good plan, sometimes we worry far too much. 

Austin Egghead

Yep freezing does not kill bacteria, just suspense it growth.  Most bacteria is harmless to man, but there are some that can do damage or they produce toxins that can cause gastric distress or worse.

Interesting read:

http://generalbacteriology.weebly.com/bacterial-toxins.html

Again for ground beef it is: cleanliness, storage temp, time between grind and consumption, and temp cooked that is important.