How long can you FTC a brisket?

Hill_Country_BGE

First post and it's a dilemma I have...

I have been asked to cook a brisket for a friend's birthday party at noon on Saturday.  The party is in another city about 2 hours away and transporting my large BGE is not an option.  Further, I have to have it done by Friday around 2pm or so because that's when I need to drive the 2 hours.  Soooo.....

If it's done around 2 can I FTC it until about noon the next day?  That's about 22 hours of a hot brisket in a cooler - I've FTC'd for 4-5 hours no problem before but this is 4 times longer.

Or, should I throw it in the fridge after it's done and then reheat in an oven the next morning.  If so, about what temp and how long?

Any advice is much appreciated.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

nope. You are going to have to cool it and reheat. I've done 7-8 hrs with good results but you aren't even in the ballpark with 22. Sorry but you are going to have to cool it down and reheat (or go to Rudy's and tell them to leave it whole and act like it's yours)

boatbum

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

nope. You are going to have to cool it and reheat. I've done 7-8 hrs with good results but you aren't even in the ballpark with 22. Sorry but you are going to have to cool it down and reheat (or go to Rudy's and tell them to leave it whole and act like it's yours)

Now come on, say it isnt true.   A self respecting bbq'r passing off "store bought" for their own?

Has that ever happened?   LOL

The Cen-Tex Smoker

boatbum said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

nope. You are going to have to cool it and reheat. I've done 7-8 hrs with good results but you aren't even in the ballpark with 22. Sorry but you are going to have to cool it down and reheat (or go to Rudy's and tell them to leave it whole and act like it's yours)

Now come on, say it isnt true.   A self respecting bbq'r passing off "store bought" for their own?

Has that ever happened?   LOL

No- but I would rather do that than rewarm one of mine. i would tell the truth though....or would i?

Hill_Country_BGE

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

nope. You are going to have to cool it and reheat. I've done 7-8 hrs with good results but you aren't even in the ballpark with 22. Sorry but you are going to have to cool it down and reheat (or go to Rudy's and tell them to leave it whole and act like it's yours)

Thanks - that's what I figured. 

sumoconnell

If you can - I recommend showing up at noon on saturday with a brisket that's been FTC for 2 hours.. you're the hero of the party! 

I'm doing that for a Garner State Park trip mid-July.. driving from Austin for ~2 hours with a brisket (or 2) to the Frio.  Should be great... 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Hill_Country_BGE said:

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

nope. You are going to have to cool it and reheat. I've done 7-8 hrs with good results but you aren't even in the ballpark with 22. Sorry but you are going to have to cool it down and reheat (or go to Rudy's and tell them to leave it whole and act like it's yours)

Thanks - that's what I figured. 

It will still be good but as you know, they can be difficult to right once. Doing it twice is miracle work! I would keep it whole and wrapped in foil. Reheat in a 300 degree oven until like 140-ish then slice and eat fast. Bring sauce in case it dries out a little. Should be good though.

Hill_Country_BGE

sumoconnell said:

If you can - I recommend showing up at noon on saturday with a brisket that's been FTC for 2 hours.. you're the hero of the party! 

I'm doing that for a Garner State Park trip mid-July.. driving from Austin for ~2 hours with a brisket (or 2) to the Frio.  Should be great... 

That would be ideal - I'm going from Austin to San Antonio so even shorter than your trip.   I may try to do that.  I wrap my brisket in butcher paper when it hits about 170 or so...which means wrapping it up sometime in the middle of the night.  Something I was trying to avoid.

Garner in July - thank god it's the "Frio" river.

TexanOfTheNorth

Hill_Country_BGE said:

sumoconnell said:

If you can - I recommend showing up at noon on saturday with a brisket that's been FTC for 2 hours.. you're the hero of the party! 

I'm doing that for a Garner State Park trip mid-July.. driving from Austin for ~2 hours with a brisket (or 2) to the Frio.  Should be great... 

That would be ideal - I'm going from Austin to San Antonio so even shorter than your trip.   I may try to do that.  I wrap my brisket in butcher paper when it hits about 170 or so...which means wrapping it up sometime in the middle of the night.  Something I was trying to avoid.

Garner in July - thank god it's the "Frio" river.

Or just not wrapping it at all... until you're ready to FTC.

SamFerrise

You could have a problem if your internal temps go below safe ranges and make a lot of people sick.  I would not go more than 4 hours in any event.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

SamFerrise said:

You could have a problem if your internal temps go below safe ranges and make a lot of people sick.  I would not go more than 4 hours in any event.

Not sure i understand. Even the most strict commercial food service rule states a maximum of 4 hours BELOW 140. So if you are at 140 for 4, you have another 4 once it drops below that would be safe to feed to the elderly and sick. That make 8 hours well within food safety guidelines.

nolaegghead

What CT said.  According to the Naked Whiz's experiment, it took 5 hours before the 200F food got below 140.  When you cook that hot, the food is effectively sterilized, and that resets the clock on that 4 hours. 

http://www.nakedwhiz.com/coolerholding.htm

So that's 9 hours.

boatbum

btw Cen-Tex Smoker - tried the Hendricks tonight - very good.   Guess I should have put this in the other topic - but - well - I tried alot of the Hendricks tonight, kept revalidating...   what else to do in a hotel in Tampa.

 

Black_Badger

@boatbum Do you mean Hendricks gin? That stuff is lights out. If the bartender is any good get a Hendricks and tonic with cucumber. Fantastic combo. 

B_B 

boatbum

Black_Badger said:

@boatbum Do you mean Hendricks gin? That stuff is lights out. If the bartender is any good get a Hendricks and tonic with cucumber. Fantastic combo. 

B_B 

yeah.   very similar to 209 in taste.  good stuff.

 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

boatbum said:

btw Cen-Tex Smoker - tried the Hendricks tonight - very good.   Guess I should have put this in the other topic - but - well - I tried alot of the Hendricks tonight, kept revalidating...   what else to do in a hotel in Tampa.

 

We are here to help. Glad to be of service.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

not sure I've ever seen the word revalidating used in a sentence before. (It's a real word by the way). Gin soaked for sure and in no way accurate but kiddos to you my friend. I googled it and was smarter for it ).

Glad you are posting again.

MaskedMarvel

Reheating dries my brisket out dramatically, in all cases but one (the one you won't want to do)..