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Now don't just go to google. That's boring.
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lousubcap said:If you needed whatever empowered majority for anything back in 2010, then let the record show that we were gifted the ACA without any republican votes. I don't want or need to get into discussions about how many votes constitute a super majority or what you need in terms of getting legislation to the POTUS' desk but that did happen with the constituency of the Congress at the time. And they had the hammer-and used it.
Hammer has changed hands (large or small). The pendulum of government always swings. FWIW-
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nolaegghead said:lousubcap said:If you needed whatever empowered majority for anything back in 2010, then let the record show that we were gifted the ACA without any republican votes. I don't want or need to get into discussions about how many votes constitute a super majority or what you need in terms of getting legislation to the POTUS' desk but that did happen with the constituency of the Congress at the time. And they had the hammer-and used it.
Hammer has changed hands (large or small). The pendulum of government always swings. FWIW-
If we put governors on cars to limit speeds to 20mph, we could save unmeasurable amounts of lives. My own father has been decimated by caring for my late mother in what he considered a dignified manor for years of dementia and Alzheimer's. I get it, let's not pretend that bankruptcy is equivalent to living though. I'll take the financial ruin. -
I'm not here to discuss the pro's and con's of the legislation-just how we got to where we are with what we have.
And I am sure there are many more stories like the above. I happen to be on record as having supported the ACA (even on this forum) as something needed to move the whole industry off bottom dead center. Mission accomplished. FWIW-Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
nolaegghead said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:nolaegghead said:pgprescott said:nolaegghead said:onedbguru said:I will be so glad when everyone actually realizes that if you are an American, we do have a new President - like him or not - voted for him or not - Time to get over ourselves and use that angst energy for something that will actually be productive - like start a business, help others, mend social relationships and flat out just get over ourselves.
Let's Q something!!!!
The 111th did not have a supermajority in either house.
https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajority
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supermajority
But "super majority" might be acceptable in some circles, just like "ain't" or "irregardless" are also accepted by some.
The page you linked to says this:
It was the first time either party held a filibuster-proof 60% super majority in both the Senate and House chambers since the 89th United States Congress in 1965, and last time until the 111th United States Congress in 2009.
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The 111th Congress did not have a 60% majority in either house of Congress.- February 4, 2010: Republican Scott Brown's election to the Senate ended the Democratic supermajority.[15]
In Sept 2009 the Dems had 58 seats
In Feb 2010 the Dems had 57 seats
I didn't see anywhere where they had 60 seats. Now 2 Independents did caucus with the Dems that could be argued I guess that the Dems did have a "supermajority".
The definition of "supermajority" I have always used is the two thirds necessary to override a presidential veto. 60% is not enough to achieve that (assuming all members of Congress actually voted). In the Senate 60% is enough for cloture (which the Senate reduced from the 2/3 needed in the 1970's) to end a filibuster but that has nothing to do with an actual vote on legislation.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
She has a degree, I'm not sure if she found out she was sick between jobs or what, but she works and wasn't able to get it because it's a preexisting condition until the ACA. She's been living with her BF for years who's an old friend of mine who's a mechanical engineer. They live in Lafayette.
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So you'll take the financial ruin - and get treated through medicaid. Wonder who pays for that.
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lousubcap said:I'm not here to discuss the pro's and con's of the legislation-just how we got to where we are with what we have.
And I am sure there are many more stories like the above. I happen to be on record as having supported the ACA (even on this forum) as something needed to move the whole industry off bottom dead center. Mission accomplished. FWIW-
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nolaegghead said:So you'll take the financial ruin - and get treated through medicaid. Wonder who pays for that.
If one one is going to go bankrupt, which is not the end of the world, I can think of no more useful reason than to save, improve, or extend your life or that of your most cherished loved ones. It's only money. There are plenty of really happy people with very little. They are wealthy in other ways though. It's a matter of priorities imo. -
nolaegghead said:She has a degree, I'm not sure if she found out she was sick between jobs or what, but she works and wasn't able to get it because it's a preexisting condition until the ACA. She's been living with her BF for years who's an old friend of mine who's a mechanical engineer. They live in Lafayette.
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Missed most of this, but I think y'all have everthing worked out. I am voting for any of you that run for office.
Peace."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
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pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:nolaegghead said:pgprescott said:nolaegghead said:onedbguru said:I will be so glad when everyone actually realizes that if you are an American, we do have a new President - like him or not - voted for him or not - Time to get over ourselves and use that angst energy for something that will actually be productive - like start a business, help others, mend social relationships and flat out just get over ourselves.
Let's Q something!!!!
The 111th did not have a supermajority in either house.
https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajority
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supermajority
But "super majority" might be acceptable in some circles, just like "ain't" or "irregardless" are also accepted by some.
The page you linked to says this:
It was the first time either party held a filibuster-proof 60% super majority in both the Senate and House chambers since the 89th United States Congress in 1965, and last time until the 111th United States Congress in 2009.
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The 111th Congress did not have a 60% majority in either house of Congress.- February 4, 2010: Republican Scott Brown's election to the Senate ended the Democratic supermajority.[15]
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XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP
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pgprescott said:Who did Brown beat? In MA? That was a stunner in those parts.
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XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP
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Salted caramel pots de creme are in the SV now - something sweet with a bit of salt seems like a fitting end cap to this thread:
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:Salted caramel pots de creme are in the SV now - something sweet with a bit of salt seems like a fitting end cap to this thread:
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As of 9:55am this morning, most women are still in DC waiting in line for the restrooms.Richmond and Mathews County, VA. Large BGE, Weber gas, little Weber charcoal. Vintage ManGrates. Little reddish portable kamado that shall remain nameless here. Very Extremely Stable Genius.
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pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:Salted caramel pots de creme are in the SV now - something sweet with a bit of salt seems like a fitting end cap to this thread:"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
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As far as crowd size goes......not sure if comparing the two is apples to apples. First black President in history vs. just another white guy.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
-Umberto Eco
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i watched some of this march, if they were marching for free over the counter anti depression meds i think they made their casefukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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YukonRon said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:Salted caramel pots de creme are in the SV now - something sweet with a bit of salt seems like a fitting end cap to this thread:"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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lousubcap said:If you needed whatever empowered majority for anything back in 2010, then let the record show that we were gifted the ACA without any republican votes. I don't want or need to get into discussions about how many votes constitute a super majority or what you need in terms of getting legislation to the POTUS' desk but that did happen with the constituency of the Congress at the time. And they had the hammer-and used it.
Hammer has changed hands (large or small). The pendulum of government always swings. FWIW-
I know way too many people where the ACA cost them more than $800-1000/mth premium with a deductible > $6K/yr - essentially paying someone else's care and being forced to be "self insured" as they never meet the deductible. Yeah, the ACA is really affordable. It was only affordable to those that "qualified" as low income. And most had far better insurance BEFORE the ACA. Let's be very clear here. It was illegal for a hospital to turned away someone because of inability to pay. No one died because they didn't get treated and most hospitals, after attempting to collect, would eventually write those loses off and increase fees for their paying patients. With gov't dictating that everyone buy insurance, the fees for those services went up even higher because now, there were "deep pockets" from which to bill. So, it was an absolute unmitigated disaster from the outset. My employer paid 100% for my wife and I until the "ACA". Now, in the last 6 years, my portion as gone from zero to >$300/mth. Luckily, I only have a $250/pp/yr deductible. For me, that is a $3600/yr pay cut - and took $$$ out of my fun fund whereby I could have purchased another Egg or 2. Todate, it has cost me ~$21,600.00. Yeah that was really "affordable".
They like to tout some xM people now have insurance that didn't before. What they don't say is that >xM people lost their insurance, hundreds of thousands lost their jobs because the ACA, most lost their Drs, and a lot of Drs just quit all because of the ACA.
The most idiotic thing about the ACA is that "kids" can stay on their parents insurance until they are 26. In generations past, by the time most were 26, they had moved out, got a job and were parents themselves. We have raised 2 generations of spoiled rotten snowflakes. If there were an apocalypse, most would not survive as they would not be able to find a "safe space". -
onedbguru said:lousubcap said:If you needed whatever empowered majority for anything back in 2010, then let the record show that we were gifted the ACA without any republican votes. I don't want or need to get into discussions about how many votes constitute a super majority or what you need in terms of getting legislation to the POTUS' desk but that did happen with the constituency of the Congress at the time. And they had the hammer-and used it.
Hammer has changed hands (large or small). The pendulum of government always swings. FWIW-
I know way too many people where the ACA cost them more than $800-1000/mth premium with a deductible > $6K/yr - essentially paying someone else's care and being forced to be "self insured" as they never meet the deductible. Yeah, the ACA is really affordable. It was only affordable to those that "qualified" as low income. And most had far better insurance BEFORE the ACA. Let's be very clear here. It was illegal for a hospital to turned away someone because of inability to pay. No one died because they didn't get treated and most hospitals, after attempting to collect, would eventually write those loses off and increase fees for their paying patients. With gov't dictating that everyone buy insurance, the fees for those services went up even higher because now, there were "deep pockets" from which to bill. So, it was an absolute unmitigated disaster from the outset. My employer paid 100% for my wife and I until the "ACA". Now, in the last 6 years, my portion as gone from zero to >$300/mth. Luckily, I only have a $250/pp/yr deductible. For me, that is a $3600/yr pay cut - and took $$$ out of my fun fund whereby I could have purchased another Egg or 2. Todate, it has cost me ~$21,600.00. Yeah that was really "affordable".
They like to tout some xM people now have insurance that didn't before. What they don't say is that >xM people lost their insurance, hundreds of thousands lost their jobs because the ACA, most lost their Drs, and a lot of Drs just quit all because of the ACA.
The most idiotic thing about the ACA is that "kids" can stay on their parents insurance until they are 26. In generations past, by the time most were 26, they had moved out, got a job and were parents themselves. We have raised 2 generations of spoiled rotten snowflakes. If there were an apocalypse, most would not survive as they would not be able to find a "safe space".
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