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BigWader said:bigalsworth said:I wish costco had the KJ road show in Canada.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk
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BigWader said:bigalsworth said:I wish costco had the KJ road show in Canada.Large BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada
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Is this a Yeti vs Rtic situation?
I am a big green egger through amd through. I dont regret any of my bge purchases a used large, a new minimax and a new XL.
Had bge delayed the mm delivery long enough for the kj jr to show up at a costco near me, i would have a joe jr and not a minimax right now
But at next local egg cookoffs at bbq store, i am looking to add another Large to the collection?..used once, assembled and full warranty
I doubt kamado joe would be selling any units with their design being so close to bge if a legitimate and upheld challenge was made
However, Big Green Egg has name recognition that is only rivaled by weber in the grilling market and nobody in the ceramic grill market... -
Crap. Just checked the Costco special events schedule. There's a KJ roadshow starting today at one of the Costco's I frequent. This may end badly...Indianapolis, IN
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acmoser76 said:Crap. Just checked the Costco special events schedule. There's a KJ roadshow starting today at one of the Costco's I frequent. This may end badly...Large BGE & mini stepchild & a KJ Jr.The damp PNW
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BizGreenEgg said:acmoser76 said:Crap. Just checked the Costco special events schedule. There's a KJ roadshow starting today at one of the Costco's I frequent. This may end badly...“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk
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HeavyG said:BizGreenEgg said:acmoser76 said:Crap. Just checked the Costco special events schedule. There's a KJ roadshow starting today at one of the Costco's I frequent. This may end badly...
LBGE
Pikesville, MD
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Glass half full, wallet completely empty.
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Costco roadshow is underway in Southern Ontario (Can) now, not sure why it's not advertised in their web schedule.
Mississauga - earlier dates(?)
North York - May 25 to June 5, 2016
Burlington - June 7 to 19, 2016
St. Catharines - June 21 to July 3, 2016
Ancaster - August 16-28, 2016
Joe Jr.: $469.99 (current Lowes price is CAD 599)
At today's exchange rate CAD 470 is about USD 363, +13% tax.
Classic Joe: $989.99
Big Joe: $1599.99
Kamado Joe Argentinean Organic Charcoal (2x20# bags): $39.99
Above info copied from here:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-kamado-joe-jr-classic-big-gta-downsview-burlington-st-catherines-ancaster-1989451/
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Canugghead said:Costco roadshow is underway in Southern Ontario (Can) now, not sure why it's not advertised in their web schedule.
Mississauga - earlier dates(?)
North York - May 25 to June 5, 2016
Burlington - June 7 to 19, 2016
St. Catharines - June 21 to July 3, 2016
Ancaster - August 16-28, 2016
Joe Jr.: $469.99 (current Lowes price is CAD 599)
At today's exchange rate CAD 470 is about USD 363, +13% tax.
Classic Joe: $989.99
Big Joe: $1599.99
Kamado Joe Argentinean Organic Charcoal (2x20# bags): $39.99
Above info copied from here:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-kamado-joe-jr-classic-big-gta-downsview-burlington-st-catherines-ancaster-1989451/Large BGEBBQ Guru DigiQ IIMartensville, Saskatchewan Canada -
acmoser76 said:Crap. Just checked the Costco special events schedule. There's a KJ roadshow starting today at one of the Costco's I frequent. This may end badly...
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Darby_Crenshaw said:HeavyG said:Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazy
The BGE and other similar kamados are almost literal copies of kamados that existed for decades before BGE came into being.
Of course the basic design of kamados is much older but BGE literally copied kamados that were being sold in Japan to US military folks after WWII.
My dad was in the USN for 30+ years and we lived in Japan for 4 years in the 1960s. We had a "green egg" while living there and my dad bought two brand new ones to ship back to the US when he got orders stateside.
The only thing I recall being noticeably different was the surface texture. The surface texture of the KJ is possibly different enough from the BGE rounder dimples to avoid such potential concerns. Perhaps.
the dimples are nothing more than an awsthetic design decision. They are not a part of the process like they were when clay 'slip' was slapped on the earthenware pieces originally. That element is as old as the ceramics (or earthenware, i guess) making process.
But the things are molded these days, in one piece. And the dimple pattern has changed over the years. It's purely aesthetic. And since they (BGE) came up with the dimple as a visual 'mark', they should have been able to trade mark it.
Same for the bevel of the dome as it meets the band. ...and maybe some other aspects.
I mean, grill done doesn't make them in green, right?
other kamados don't infringe (like the bubba leg for example) because they are so different
general kamado shape and fundamental elements wouldn't be trademarked. But non critical appearance related design elements and identifying marks, sure
A car company can't trademark having four wheels and a hood ornament. But they can trademark the design of their hood ornament (badge) and other elements which ID their brand
Just seems odd.
Obviously someone has done their homework though. Because a blatant ripoff wouldn't last long unless there was a loophole
i agree, can't trademark a kamado soecifically. But the appearance of it, brand-signifying stuff, shoulda been able to i'd think -
Didn't the owner and founder of KJ work for BGE? Bobby Brennan I think is his name? Guy who started Primo worked there too. These guys jump ship in a BIG way lmao!!
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yljkt said:Didn't the owner and founder of KJ work for BGE? Bobby Brennan I think is his name? Guy who started Primo worked there too. These guys jump ship in a BIG way lmao!!
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bigbadben said:yljkt said:Didn't the owner and founder of KJ work for BGE? Bobby Brennan I think is his name? Guy who started Primo worked there too. These guys jump ship in a BIG way lmao!!
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yljkt said:Didn't the owner and founder of KJ work for BGE? Bobby Brennan I think is his name? Guy who started Primo worked there too. These guys jump ship in a BIG way lmao!!
http://www.primogrill.com/en-us/explore/the-primo-story
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
pgprescott said:Darby_Crenshaw said:HeavyG said:Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazy
The BGE and other similar kamados are almost literal copies of kamados that existed for decades before BGE came into being.
Of course the basic design of kamados is much older but BGE literally copied kamados that were being sold in Japan to US military folks after WWII.
My dad was in the USN for 30+ years and we lived in Japan for 4 years in the 1960s. We had a "green egg" while living there and my dad bought two brand new ones to ship back to the US when he got orders stateside.
The only thing I recall being noticeably different was the surface texture. The surface texture of the KJ is possibly different enough from the BGE rounder dimples to avoid such potential concerns. Perhaps.
the dimples are nothing more than an awsthetic design decision. They are not a part of the process like they were when clay 'slip' was slapped on the earthenware pieces originally. That element is as old as the ceramics (or earthenware, i guess) making process.
But the things are molded these days, in one piece. And the dimple pattern has changed over the years. It's purely aesthetic. And since they (BGE) came up with the dimple as a visual 'mark', they should have been able to trade mark it.
Same for the bevel of the dome as it meets the band. ...and maybe some other aspects.
I mean, grill done doesn't make them in green, right?
other kamados don't infringe (like the bubba leg for example) because they are so different
general kamado shape and fundamental elements wouldn't be trademarked. But non critical appearance related design elements and identifying marks, sure
A car company can't trademark having four wheels and a hood ornament. But they can trademark the design of their hood ornament (badge) and other elements which ID their brand
Just seems odd.
Obviously someone has done their homework though. Because a blatant ripoff wouldn't last long unless there was a loophole
i agree, can't trademark a kamado soecifically. But the appearance of it, brand-signifying stuff, shoulda been able to i'd think
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
HeavyG said:pgprescott said:Darby_Crenshaw said:HeavyG said:Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazy
The BGE and other similar kamados are almost literal copies of kamados that existed for decades before BGE came into being.
Of course the basic design of kamados is much older but BGE literally copied kamados that were being sold in Japan to US military folks after WWII.
My dad was in the USN for 30+ years and we lived in Japan for 4 years in the 1960s. We had a "green egg" while living there and my dad bought two brand new ones to ship back to the US when he got orders stateside.
The only thing I recall being noticeably different was the surface texture. The surface texture of the KJ is possibly different enough from the BGE rounder dimples to avoid such potential concerns. Perhaps.
the dimples are nothing more than an awsthetic design decision. They are not a part of the process like they were when clay 'slip' was slapped on the earthenware pieces originally. That element is as old as the ceramics (or earthenware, i guess) making process.
But the things are molded these days, in one piece. And the dimple pattern has changed over the years. It's purely aesthetic. And since they (BGE) came up with the dimple as a visual 'mark', they should have been able to trade mark it.
Same for the bevel of the dome as it meets the band. ...and maybe some other aspects.
I mean, grill done doesn't make them in green, right?
other kamados don't infringe (like the bubba leg for example) because they are so different
general kamado shape and fundamental elements wouldn't be trademarked. But non critical appearance related design elements and identifying marks, sure
A car company can't trademark having four wheels and a hood ornament. But they can trademark the design of their hood ornament (badge) and other elements which ID their brand
Just seems odd.
Obviously someone has done their homework though. Because a blatant ripoff wouldn't last long unless there was a loophole
i agree, can't trademark a kamado soecifically. But the appearance of it, brand-signifying stuff, shoulda been able to i'd think
So what you are saying is I'm stupid, because some Kamados don't have dimples and neither do toilets? -
Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazyLBGE, Minimax
Owensboro, Kentucky
Go Cats! -
A regulation golf ball has 333 dimples.
I'm not sure about Eggs or KJs..._____________Tin soldiers and Johnson's coming...
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I'll be in Myrtle Beach in 7/1, with the KJ roadshow going through 7/3. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:Darby_Crenshaw said:HeavyG said:Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazy
The BGE and other similar kamados are almost literal copies of kamados that existed for decades before BGE came into being.
Of course the basic design of kamados is much older but BGE literally copied kamados that were being sold in Japan to US military folks after WWII.
My dad was in the USN for 30+ years and we lived in Japan for 4 years in the 1960s. We had a "green egg" while living there and my dad bought two brand new ones to ship back to the US when he got orders stateside.
The only thing I recall being noticeably different was the surface texture. The surface texture of the KJ is possibly different enough from the BGE rounder dimples to avoid such potential concerns. Perhaps.
the dimples are nothing more than an awsthetic design decision. They are not a part of the process like they were when clay 'slip' was slapped on the earthenware pieces originally. That element is as old as the ceramics (or earthenware, i guess) making process.
But the things are molded these days, in one piece. And the dimple pattern has changed over the years. It's purely aesthetic. And since they (BGE) came up with the dimple as a visual 'mark', they should have been able to trade mark it.
Same for the bevel of the dome as it meets the band. ...and maybe some other aspects.
I mean, grill done doesn't make them in green, right?
other kamados don't infringe (like the bubba leg for example) because they are so different
general kamado shape and fundamental elements wouldn't be trademarked. But non critical appearance related design elements and identifying marks, sure
A car company can't trademark having four wheels and a hood ornament. But they can trademark the design of their hood ornament (badge) and other elements which ID their brand
Just seems odd.
Obviously someone has done their homework though. Because a blatant ripoff wouldn't last long unless there was a loophole
i agree, can't trademark a kamado soecifically. But the appearance of it, brand-signifying stuff, shoulda been able to i'd think
So what you are saying is I'm stupid, because some Kamados don't have dimples and neither do toilets?“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Botch said:A regulation golf ball has 333 dimples.
I'm not sure about Eggs or KJs... -
HeavyG said:yljkt said:Didn't the owner and founder of KJ work for BGE? Bobby Brennan I think is his name? Guy who started Primo worked there too. These guys jump ship in a BIG way lmao!!
http://www.primogrill.com/en-us/explore/the-primo-story -
pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:Darby_Crenshaw said:HeavyG said:Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazy
The BGE and other similar kamados are almost literal copies of kamados that existed for decades before BGE came into being.
Of course the basic design of kamados is much older but BGE literally copied kamados that were being sold in Japan to US military folks after WWII.
My dad was in the USN for 30+ years and we lived in Japan for 4 years in the 1960s. We had a "green egg" while living there and my dad bought two brand new ones to ship back to the US when he got orders stateside.
The only thing I recall being noticeably different was the surface texture. The surface texture of the KJ is possibly different enough from the BGE rounder dimples to avoid such potential concerns. Perhaps.
the dimples are nothing more than an awsthetic design decision. They are not a part of the process like they were when clay 'slip' was slapped on the earthenware pieces originally. That element is as old as the ceramics (or earthenware, i guess) making process.
But the things are molded these days, in one piece. And the dimple pattern has changed over the years. It's purely aesthetic. And since they (BGE) came up with the dimple as a visual 'mark', they should have been able to trade mark it.
Same for the bevel of the dome as it meets the band. ...and maybe some other aspects.
I mean, grill done doesn't make them in green, right?
other kamados don't infringe (like the bubba leg for example) because they are so different
general kamado shape and fundamental elements wouldn't be trademarked. But non critical appearance related design elements and identifying marks, sure
A car company can't trademark having four wheels and a hood ornament. But they can trademark the design of their hood ornament (badge) and other elements which ID their brand
Just seems odd.
Obviously someone has done their homework though. Because a blatant ripoff wouldn't last long unless there was a loophole
i agree, can't trademark a kamado soecifically. But the appearance of it, brand-signifying stuff, shoulda been able to i'd think
So what you are saying is I'm stupid, because some Kamados don't have dimples and neither do toilets?pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:Darby_Crenshaw said:HeavyG said:Darby_Crenshaw said:I continually am amazed at how BGE never trademarked any of the design elements. I am not talking about patents. I simply mean trademark design (visual) elements
That thing is a red BGE. Same dimple pattern, profile, bevel at the bands, lower vent...
crazy
The BGE and other similar kamados are almost literal copies of kamados that existed for decades before BGE came into being.
Of course the basic design of kamados is much older but BGE literally copied kamados that were being sold in Japan to US military folks after WWII.
My dad was in the USN for 30+ years and we lived in Japan for 4 years in the 1960s. We had a "green egg" while living there and my dad bought two brand new ones to ship back to the US when he got orders stateside.
The only thing I recall being noticeably different was the surface texture. The surface texture of the KJ is possibly different enough from the BGE rounder dimples to avoid such potential concerns. Perhaps.
the dimples are nothing more than an awsthetic design decision. They are not a part of the process like they were when clay 'slip' was slapped on the earthenware pieces originally. That element is as old as the ceramics (or earthenware, i guess) making process.
But the things are molded these days, in one piece. And the dimple pattern has changed over the years. It's purely aesthetic. And since they (BGE) came up with the dimple as a visual 'mark', they should have been able to trade mark it.
Same for the bevel of the dome as it meets the band. ...and maybe some other aspects.
I mean, grill done doesn't make them in green, right?
other kamados don't infringe (like the bubba leg for example) because they are so different
general kamado shape and fundamental elements wouldn't be trademarked. But non critical appearance related design elements and identifying marks, sure
A car company can't trademark having four wheels and a hood ornament. But they can trademark the design of their hood ornament (badge) and other elements which ID their brand
Just seems odd.
Obviously someone has done their homework though. Because a blatant ripoff wouldn't last long unless there was a loophole
i agree, can't trademark a kamado soecifically. But the appearance of it, brand-signifying stuff, shoulda been able to i'd think
So what you are saying is I'm stupid, because some Kamados don't have dimples and neither do toilets? -
Eggcelsior said:I'll be in Myrtle Beach in 7/1, with the KJ roadshow going through 7/3. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.------------------------------
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I think the included accessories tip the scales in favor of KJ - IF it wouldn't be for the color.
No slam on those that have them, but I'd be reluctant to have a bright red grill on my patio.
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blasting said:
I think the included accessories tip the scales in favor of KJ - IF it wouldn't be for the color.
No slam on those that have them, but I'd be reluctant to have a bright red grill on my patio.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Grill Dome use to make a green one.
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