Lump Coal Storage

DoubleEgger said:

What about putting damp rid in the box? 

Yeah, that's a good place to store them since the charcoal would keep them dry.  LOL.  That thing wouldn't last more than a few days outside anyway.

Seriously, charcoal is one of the best and cheapest desiccants & odor absorbers.  Lose the baking soda and put a chunk in the fridge.....after a week or two put in a new chunk and throw the old one in the BGE.

stlcharcoal said:

I don't recommend those sealed containers.  You may think you're sealing OUT the moisture, but you're actually sealing it in (unless you acclimate everything inside the AC, put the lid on, then move it outside.)  With the lid on you make a mini sauna inside and the charcoal is going to absorb all the moisture.

Best thing to do it just roll the top of the bag over and leave it in the garage, or better yet somewhere inside the AC.  If you're going to leave it outside, leave it somewhere to breath so you're not letting it soak up any more moisture that what is ambient.

@Stlcharcoal, I've been don't it for about a year now and had now problem with it being wet or lump lightning, but as I said now I usually dump some out of the bag, then roll the top down and place it inside the plastic trash can.  Here is what I use.

st¡ke said:

Simple carbon lump doesn't absorb odors to any degree. Neither in fact does that ubiquitous box of baking soda in the fridge. Virtually no ability to absorb odor just by sitting there. 

Activated charcoal is something else ENTIRELY. It can ADsorb molecules. 

Activated charcoal has a surface area of something like 2000 square meters per gram. Way way way more than a stupid chunk of lump. And it's a mechanical or chemical bond that causes the adsorption. You have to force the thing you are filtering through it. It won't cause odors to magically get drawn to it and get sucked into it, filtering the air 

Sure it does......

I have a customer that many years ago (long before Rockwood), parked a 1/2 truckload of charcoal in an old Petco store.  Petco had gone belly up a year before and the property owner couldn't get a new renter because the store reeked of wet dog.  The 20,000# of charcoal left there pallet by pallet over the summer, and in six month when the charcoal was gone, so was the smell.  The building had a renter shortly thereafter and my guy lost his super cheap storage. 

Yes, activated "charcoal" is a different--comes from coal, not wood.  But only the super high quality stuff is upwards of 2000 m2/g.  Most is 500-1000 m2/g.  Lump charcoal (at least ours), is about 250 m2/g.

Never said anything about filtering, but it does absorb and hold onto things.  Got a lot of money wrapped up in lab testing on that right now......new  product coming out early next year.  Once it debuts those results/reports by a state university will be out on the website for all to view.

Ladeback69 said:

I just use a 33 gallon trash can from Lowes. I used to dump it into the can, but now after dumping some in the egg I just put the bag in the can with some of my smoking wood.  Deck boxes work great too if you through it quick.

stlcharcoal said:

st¡ke said:

Simple carbon lump doesn't absorb odors to any degree. Neither in fact does that ubiquitous box of baking soda in the fridge. Virtually no ability to absorb odor just by sitting there. 

Activated charcoal is something else ENTIRELY. It can ADsorb molecules. 

Activated charcoal has a surface area of something like 2000 square meters per gram. Way way way more than a stupid chunk of lump. And it's a mechanical or chemical bond that causes the adsorption. You have to force the thing you are filtering through it. It won't cause odors to magically get drawn to it and get sucked into it, filtering the air 

Sure it does......

I have a customer that many years ago (long before Rockwood), parked a 1/2 truckload of charcoal in an old Petco store.  Petco had gone belly up a year before and the property owner couldn't get a new renter because the store reeked of wet dog.  The 20,000# of charcoal left there pallet by pallet over the summer, and in six month when the charcoal was gone, so was the smell.  The building had a renter shortly thereafter and my guy lost his super cheap storage. 

Yes, activated "charcoal" is a different--comes from coal, not wood.  But only the super high quality stuff is upwards of 2000 m2/g.  Most is 500-1000 m2/g.  Lump charcoal (at least ours), is about 250 m2/g.

Never said anything about filtering, but it does absorb and hold onto things.  Got a lot of money wrapped up in lab testing on that right now......new  product coming out early next year.  Once it debuts those results/reports by a state university will be out on the website for all to view.

DoubleEgger said:

This is what I use to store lump and chunks. A 20lb bag of lump will fit in it standing up. I use the bin to sort through the lump instead of dumping it in directly. It's by Rubbermaid and I got it a HD or Lowes. I don't remember.