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Jeepster47
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So far all I've used is Nature Glo (Royal Oak in a suit and tie), but I stumbled upon some Royal Oak in it's casual dress at Menards. Today I finished off the Nature Glo stash, so topped off the fill with some Menards Royal Oak. Upon lighting it, I noticed more smoke than normal ... in fact I pulled three pieces that were smoking like a smudge pot. Two of those pieces were bark.
It's not fair to make a conclusion on a data sample of one, but the Royal Oak dressed in green from Menards didn't seem to be the same quality as Nature Glo. I'd tell you that the smell was worse, but maybe that's just because @SGH has made me more paranoid.
What has been your experience with the Royal Oak derivatives?
It's not fair to make a conclusion on a data sample of one, but the Royal Oak dressed in green from Menards didn't seem to be the same quality as Nature Glo. I'd tell you that the smell was worse, but maybe that's just because @SGH has made me more paranoid.
What has been your experience with the Royal Oak derivatives?
Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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I have always used RO in the red bag (Made in America) and it has always been good...It sparks a little, but that's ok...I always used it in my old offset smoker as well.
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All I've ever used as Royal Oak. Alwats available, easy to light, and cheap. If you look at how charcoal is made you'll see why you get some odd things. For the price I'm not concerned. I buy the red bag from Wally world.
Now if I had access to something "fancier" I'd try it, but depends on price._______________________________________________XLBGE -
Ditto; what Fusion said. Some smoky chunks like you mention, but good overall lump.
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Red bag if you're going to use it. What does the green one say - is it a specific wood?
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I too have used RO in the red bagain from America and it was ok, but it smokes a lot and I now prefer RW at $20/20lb bag from my dealer. It's hard to go back after using RW.XL, WSM, Coleman Road Trip Gas GrillKansas City, Mo.
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I never had a problem with RO, rebranded as Wegman's lump. It takes longer to get to temp/clean smoke than Rockwood for me. Price is hard to beat.
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I've burned a lot of Royal Oak and always got along with it fine. I have used several other brands too. I just used the last of my 3-bag purchase of Royal Oak today as I have a small brisket going for chili. I started the egg at 9:00 and finally got the smoke clear by 10:15. The three bags I had were very slow to start. Might have just been a bad batch but I have had a lot of frustration with slow starts when using it lately.I prefer Rockwood as it starts faster and the white smoke clears much faster for me.L x2, M, S, Mini and a Blackstone 36. She says I have enough now....eggAddict from MN!
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I've probably used 50+ bags of Menards Royal Oak in the past. It's ok for what's available in big box stores. I've had much worse. I've been a lump snob the last few years with Ozark Oak. I'll take Royal Oak before Cowboy anyday."The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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I used RO for years and the food was always great, the problem I had with it is how long it took for the white smoke to clear, at least an hour or so. I use Rockwood now and can get my food on in 20 minutes or so._________________________________________________Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story!Large BGE 2006, Mini Max 2014, 36" Blackstone, Anova Sous Vide
Green Man GroupJohns Creek, Georgia -
All I Use is RO in the red bag- no complaints---had a bag or two that wasn't in the best of shape-But for me clean and reliable for me....Been wanting to try something different to keep in my "hip pocket" I think Firecraft was the placeVisalia, Ca @lkapigian
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lkapigian said:All I Use is RO in the red bag- no complaints---had a bag or two that wasn't in the best of shape-But for me clean and reliable for me....Been wanting to try something different to keep in my "hip pocket" I think Firecraft was the place_________________________________________________Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story!Large BGE 2006, Mini Max 2014, 36" Blackstone, Anova Sous Vide
Green Man GroupJohns Creek, Georgia -
Jeepster47 said:So far all I've used is Nature Glo (Royal Oak in a suit and tie), but I stumbled upon some Royal Oak in it's casual dress at Menards. Today I finished off the Nature Glo stash, so topped off the fill with some Menards Royal Oak. Upon lighting it, I noticed more smoke than normal ... in fact I pulled three pieces that were smoking like a smudge pot. Two of those pieces were bark.
It's not fair to make a conclusion on a data sample of one, but the Royal Oak dressed in green from Menards didn't seem to be the same quality as Nature Glo. I'd tell you that the smell was worse, but maybe that's just because @SGH has made me more paranoid.
What has been your experience with the Royal Oak derivatives?Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
Status- Standing by.
The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. -
Here we go again. Hang on @Jeepster47, this thread might get as bumpy as the Rubicon trail.
Before using Ozark Oak, I used RO. I thought it was the greatest until I listened to some members on the forum and tried OO. Smoke wasn't horrible but definitely noticeable. I didn't like the small pieces.Steven
Mini Max with Woo stone combo, LBGE, iGrill 2, Plate Setter,
two cotton pot holders to handle PS
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I've yet to try anything other than BGE lump, and RO, so listen to others who have...Maybe one day I will, but there's a home depot with RO less than a mile away!!
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Legume said:Red bag if you're going to use it. What does the green one say - is it a specific wood?
Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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Skip the BGE lump if you haven't already. It's Royal Oak bagged under the Big Green Egg name. You end up paying more for the bag to say BGEfusionhq said:I've yet to try anything other than BGE lump, and RO, so listen to others who have...Maybe one day I will, but there's a home depot with RO less than a mile away!!
"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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The nearest Rockwood dealer is over 90 miles away, or I would already have tried it already. Over Christmas vacation, we'll be going much closer to a hardware store in Wisconsin that stocks it, so I plan on giving Rockwood a trial after that trip. I like the idea of starting with a neutral smoke and add makes the the missus ...
Other brands in this area are lower on the nakedwiz list than RO, so honest, we're using the best available.
I've resisted ordering lump over the internet, just because our UPS guys can screw up an anvil. Dealers look like they get a pallet full (hard to rough a pallet up) and sell off it. So, will see if it's good enough to warrant a dedicated trip.
@SGH and others who are converts, I've never felt shunned 'cuz I'm using it. Using it taught me the advantage of waiting for good smoke to appear before cooking. So, thanks for your input.
Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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Nothing wrong with RO IMO. Then again it's all I've tried and the most plentiful here in SoCal. As long as I don't try anything else, I guess I can't tell how bad it is like some people say. It burns hot, cooks well, it's cheap, plentiful and I'm never in a rush to cook when I'm egging so burning off the VOC's (what ever the hell that means), doesn't matter to me.
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r8rs4lf said:Nothing wrong with RO IMO. Then again it's all I've tried and the most plentiful here in SoCal. As long as I don't try anything else, I guess I can't tell how bad it is like some people say. It burns hot, cooks well, it's cheap, plentiful and I'm never in a rush to cook when I'm egging so burning off the VOC's (what ever the hell that means), doesn't matter to me. I mean it's charcoal not rocket science right???They/Them
Morgantown, PA
XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer - PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker -
Have had really mixed results with RO - some bags nothing but teenie tiny pieces that are all but unusable - that, and about a quarter bag of dust at the bottom. Can't beat the price - especially on sale from Wally World for the 16 lb bags, but as they say.."you get what you pay for". (I personally would like it if it weren't for the size consistency, the crazy sparkiness and the random chunks of.,.I have no idea what those are but they smoke like crazy and I'm not sure they aren't toxic. Aside from that, it's a good lump!)
OO has been my go-to lump (much larger pieces consistently - at least in my first few bags from Firecraft), but I also just got a 35 lb bag of Fogo from Amazon to test out also. WW has also been good but a lot harder (in my experience) to light.
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The green bag has all the right words ...Jeepster47 said:Legume said:Red bag if you're going to use it. What does the green one say - is it a specific wood?
Yep, all the right words. I don't have a red bag handy to compare. -
Can someone explain burning off VOCs? I can't ever see them. X_X
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Me neither because there's too much smoke!!!Legume said:Can someone explain burning off VOCs? I can't ever see them. X_X
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With all the bad mouthing RO gets on this forum you wonder how they can remain the largest producer of lump packaged under their own name, BGE name and many other national chain store names. Can't say why they are such a big cat, but they are just the same. @Jeepster47 makes the same point I live by and I make my selections right off the pallet. The other sure fire method that works for me is I grip a bag to feel how tight it is packed. Any I find that seem loose-goosey will also rattle telling me they contain small pieces and those bags get set to the side!Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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Easy Ron! Don't get all wound up, it isn't good for you. I would think that a lot of the sparking and spitting that RO does may be a result of time in the shaker. Maybe the premium sub brands gets a little more. Be nice if STLCharcoal could chime in, or maybe Cali could give his friends at WW a call.
Steve
Caledon, ON
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I get RO cheap as hell from Home Despot. I find it a little smoky, but good overall. I have some OO, and some FOGO for when I want a cleaner/ neutral fire. ,I also got some sweet Santa Clara Valley Orangewood from a good guy @SMITTYtheSMOKER at his shop Eggs by the Bay, it is from mexico, but it is very clean burning, cooked my t-day turkey and the light smokiness was perfect.
:-bdUsing a MBGE,woo/w stone,livin' in Hayward California," The Heart Of The Bay " -
I'm thinking of ordering some Ozark Oak...is it worth $.60 lb?Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN
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henapple said:I'm thinking of ordering some Ozark Oak...is it worth $.60 lb?
The lady at Ozark Oak laughed at me when I asked about a dealer in Illinois. She was nice, in that southern belle way, but I think she was telling me that they don't share with Yankees.
Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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Dude, you know at $0.60 a lb your money is better spent on Royal Choke ummmm I mean Oak.henapple said:I'm thinking of ordering some Ozark Oak...is it worth $.60 lb?
)-----------------------------------------analyze adapt overcome2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky. -
Speaking of royal choke. ..somebody needs to tell dumbass she's a princess...not a hollabak
Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN
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