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Bread Makers!!!

BENTEBENTE Posts: 8,337
edited November -1 in EggHead Forum
ok so today i was at the local publix (which by the way is the friendliest store! which is why i go there) and they had a sale on all of their fall squash.. i looked over a larger than usual selection. and finally decided on some pie pumpkins. there were three others in the running....

(it has been a bad day for my steelers so forgive me if Jim Beam has clouded me current memory as to what the other two choices are)

so i got two pie pumpkins the first one weighs 1 lb 12 oz and the other weighs 2 lb 3 oz.. i have looked through 58 recepies that i have for anything with pumpkins in them and have not found anything that i like in my searches.

Here is what i want to do.. i want to roast them on the egg. no big deal cut them in half throw some olive oil, salt and pepper @ 350. cut side up. seeds in. till soft.. let cool (scrape seeds and throw them back on the egg. and add salt.) but clean the kins and mash into a paste with some clove, nutmeg, cinimon..



So here is where it gets weird i want to make a bread.. i have a bunch of high gluten flour. i don't have much of any kind of other flour so i am guessing this has to be a crusty type bread (i suck a$$ at bread which is why i am pleading to ya'll)


i hope this is enough info for some of you bread makers to give me something i can work with..


additional info i have DO, bread pans, 9x9 - 9x13 casserole dishes, a couple weird casserole dishes, and a pizza stone with my two hands (plus a KA mixer which is important)


thanks once againi know there are alot of bread affecionados {sp} that hang out here and they know alot about yeast to flour to hydration level stuff that i am not up to speed on :pinch: .. so if you are wondering That's Why I Asked B)

happy eggin

TB

Anderson S.C.

"Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

Tyrus Raymond Cobb

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  • For the bread, make it easy upon yourself. Try the no-knead bread that Mark Bittman popularized. It works very well and gives excellent loaves of bread.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/dining/081mrex.html
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  • BENTEBENTE Posts: 8,337
    you stupid or SCARED???

    my guess you are hiding cause you were ashamed to admit there is no pumpkin in your link!!!

    i only want people with knowledge i have 114 bread recepies several no knead plus no knead pizza dough recepie if i wanted them they are already here.. i asked specifically for pumpkin.. maybe you are just slow that is what i will call you!! scared and slow too scared to say who you are and too slow to comprehend what i meant when i said Pumpkin hopefully you will either show your dumba$$ or give me something i can use

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • HossHoss Posts: 14,600
    :ohmy: :whistle:B) I know what you mean Bente. :(
  • BENTEBENTE Posts: 8,337
    i have been as nice as i can to newbies but sometimes there are people who just want to be smart asses and i can understeand that but i am being pretty specific and someone wants to be "special" that is cool with em but they are too scared to actually say who they are that is just chickenshit!!! plain and simple


    if your are tooo scared to say who you are they why say it ??????


    i can understand stike and his delima/overexposure but he would let you know what you were wanting to know ;)

    that is why someone like froggy is just a P.O.S cause he did not help at all::::: if he had knowledge to share it would have been under his own name :ohmy:

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • BrocBroc Posts: 1,398
    Well -- At risk of being jumped-down-the throat... let me address a specific point you seem to be raising...

    And, yes! I do a lot of bread, in the Egg and in the Kitchen Oven.
    And, no -- I don't do pumpkin bread.

    But -- you ask about hydration. Since the entire discussion of bakers percentages seems to throw a lot of people, I'll speak to this issue.

    Hydration refers to the percentage of water [or milk, or any liquid] relative to flour. Bakers percentages are all measured against the weight of flour in a recipe.

    Example -- If a recipe call for 28 oz of flour, and 14 oz of liquid, then this is 50% hydration.

    'Nuther example -- If a recipe calls for 28 oz of flour, and 21 oz of liquid, then this is 75% hydration.

    I am a tester for Peter Reinhart... and yes! I report to him how all of his recipes respond to baking in the oven in a cloche and also to baking on a pizza stone in the Egg. I don't think he perceives the ceramic baking market to be big enough to write a special breads book -- But I hope to be on the front lines when he does.

    OK -- Since you've read this far ... just four generic tips...

    No. 1 -- With yeasted breads, go for about 75% hydration. This makes a very wet, sloppy dough, much thinner than our general concept of bread dough.

    No. 2 -- For white breads, substitute 5% of the flour weight with rye flour... significantly increases the flavor.

    No. 2 -- Learn to stretch and fold. Despite working with very hydrated dough, four "stretch-and-folds" within one hour will really tighten up the dough, as the gluten develops.

    No. 3 -- After your four stretch-and-folds, plop your dough in a slightly oiled container, cover the container [plastic wrap or tight lid] and put it in the fridge for 24 -- 36 hours. You may have to gently de-gas after the first 12 - 18 hours. Allowing the bread to rest [cold] for several days adds quite a bit of flavor.

    OK -- Those who want to know more can contact me --
    broc4brockway at yahoo dot com
  • BENTEBENTE Posts: 8,337
    how can i jump down someone's throat for giving "Real" info??? i have made your recepie for no knead bread so many times i have actually eggsperimented with it by adding cheese.. fontina during the "first" knead after the rest...

    Bread, No Knead Brock from just across.........

    OK -- Here goes! This is a no-knead recipe. Very little "hands-on" time... maybe a total of ten minutes handling ingredients.

    1 Simply dump into a bowl and quickly mix together
    2 > 3 Cups all purpose flour
    3 > 1/2 tsp yeast
    4 > 1-1/2 tsp salt [I use sea salt]
    5 Then just dump in 1-1/2 cups of good tasting water
    6 > In about 20 - 30 seconds, just squish the water into the flour... don't worry about "under mixing." It will hydrate on its own.
    7 Cover with plastic, and let sit on the counter 12+ hours.
    8 < The longer it sits, the more taste it will develop
    9 The next day ---
    10 Flop the gooey mess onto a well floured countertop.
    11 >It will be really sticky, and will seem like it is too wet. It isn't!
    12 >Use flour liberally on your hands, and "powder" the dough as needed so you don't end up wearing it!
    13 Tri-fold the mess as best you can just twice!
    14 < Work the dough a bit with your fingers to de-gas the biggest bubbles. Unlike traditional bread making, don't overwork this section. You can do this in maybe 15 seconds at the most.
    15 < Leave some gas bubbles in the dough.
    16 As best you can with the gooey mess, keep your hands well floured, roll into a ball and place the dough into a lightly oiled [EVOO] bowl.
    17 Cover with a towel, and walk away!
    18 < To this point, your total contact time with ingredients is maybe a minute, include measuring the flour, yada-yada.
    19 < Just walk away, Jose! -- For two hours.
    20 Preheat your oven [Egg] to 450F, with the dutch oven in it
    21 Turn the dough out on the counter again, gently de-gassing.
    22 < Tri-fold twice!
    23 < Then shape the dough into an appropriately long "log."
    24 < Again, this is a fast-'n-furious step, taking less than a minute.
    25 < When the "log" is formed, let it rest for about 10 minutes.
    26 Quickly, toss the "log" into the dutch oven, that has been in your Egg/oven for 30 min @ 450F
    27 < The extremely wet dough [superhydrated] will steam -- but the steam can't escape the dutch oven easily... this is what makes that crispy, yummy crust on the bread!
    28 < BTW -- The bread will not stick to the baking pot. < Don't grease the oven or anything. Just use it.
    29 After 30 minutes, take the lid off the cooker, and continue to bake for 20 more minutes.
    30 Viola! The deed is done!
    31 < Remove the dutch oven from the Egg/oven
    32 < Turn your Italian loaf out on to a rack to cool at least 30 min. before slicing. The inside of a loaf of any bread needs this rest time before slicing, or the inside of the bread can turn out "gummy."
    33 Enjoy the best Italian bread you've ever had.


    Recipe Type
    Bread

    Cooking Tips
    if you want you can grate some cheese into it just do it when you do the first turn out tb 2008/08/26

    Recipe Source
    Author: Broc just across………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Source: BGE Forum 2008-01-17





    see i have that recepie from when you were brockfrom just across the might mo (or something like that)


    but on to your point:::

    first question is ....according to your steps i should refregeriate for a day or so how much yeast should i use:::: reason i ask is because when i make pizza dough i was told to use a fraction of the yeast so it does not prematually die before my "rest in the fridge" ends...

    also i am wondering what kind of hydration level is the pumpkin going to add? i would think i would take the reserve liquid from roasting the pumpkins for the liquid for the dough...


    so am i overthinking this??

    should i just roast the pumpkins on the egg, pour the liquid into a container to "bloom" the yeast then start mixing my high- gluten flour?????

    really i am not being dense it just comes naturally :ohmy:

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • HossHoss Posts: 14,600
    I must concur! ;) It really pi$$es me off when forum members hide their handles When makin trouble/snide remarks.I agree with you ,if you mean it ,say it and don't hide.Or even worse,candya$$ lurkers startin bull...! :angry:
  • I share your pain on my beloved Steelers. Two games in a row that they shoulda won, jeez. And Santonio Holmes needs a drug test. For cause. Two games behind the Ravens? Completely disgusting.

    Anyway, I have done some pumpkin breads that are simple, though I've not done any original recipes that require hydration calculations. So here's an idea for you. Most consumer recipes use canned pumpkin puree. If you concentrate on making a good puree on the Egg, you'd have a nice smokey product that can be used to upgrade consumer recipes that call for canned puree.

    Examples of puree recipes, easily adaptable to the Egg:
    about.com
    allrecipes.com
    Food Network
    epicurious

    They all seem similar. Prep pumpkin, perhaps brush with butter. Roast for 325-350ºF for an hour or thereabouts. Chunk and puree in blender to make pumpkin base. Strain off liquid.

    Breads using pumpkin puree, well, allrecipes has 90 of them. I suspect you could sub the pumpkin base in bread recipes that called for applesauce. Oh, and pumpkin cheesecake is very good, although it's not what you were asking about. Obviously you're already on the pepitas thing. I bet they'd be great with some DP.

    Maybe this is too simple, but this kind of stepwise approach works for me.
  • BENTEBENTE Posts: 8,337
    hell as you know it happens all the time!!

    although it has been more prevelent latley..


    for some reason someone comes over just to start $h!t knowing they are comming to "The Cult"



    my only question is WHY????

    i mean you been here for 3300 posts people know you have read 5X the amount your have responded to so you would be a good source for info.. so why even try to give you stupid **** answers it just wastes time...


    kind of like cutting your finger chopping onions... only thing happens is you waste time stopping the bleeding ;)

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • BENTEBENTE Posts: 8,337
    yea tone needs to be checked for mary jane for sure he did not have a good game... limas sweed will loose his spot to mike wallace if he doesn't shape up and SOON!!!!

    D is hurting (43).... but we have lost 2 nail biters so i am not too woried.. we are not the 72 Dolphins!!! but very concerned...


    i looked at a few pumpkin recepies and thought about what to do with them i even thought this one would be verrry good




    Pie, Pumpkin, Baked in the Pumpkin, BobinFla

    This dish was a favorite of George Washington. While it was called a pie in the old days, it’s certainly not what we call a pie now. Here the custard pie is found inside the pumpkin and the whole thing is to be served up with a bit of anticipation fo


    Ingredients:
    1 Pumpkin, 5-7 pounds
    6 Whole Eggs
    1 pint Whipping Cream
    1/2 cup Brown Sugar
    1 Tbs Molasses
    1/2 tsp Freshly Grated Nutmeg
    1 tsp Cinnamon
    1/4 tsp Ginger
    2 Tbs Butter



    Preparation Directions:
    1 Cut the lid off the pumpkin just as you would for a Jack-O’-Lantern.
    2 Remove the seeds and save for toasting later.
    3 Mix the remaining ingredients together with the exception of the butter. Fill the pumpkin with this mixture and top with the butter.
    4 Cover with the pumpkin lid and place in a baking pan.
    Cooking Directions:
    1 Bake at 350° for 1-1½ hours, or until has set like a custard.
    2 Serve from the pumpkin at your table, scraping some of the meat from the pumpkin with each serving.
    3 This is an interesting substitution for the usual pumpkin pie.


    Servings: 8

    Recipe Type
    Dessert

    Recipe Source
    Author: BobinFla sailaser @ bellsouth . net

    Source: BGE Forum, BobinFla

    BOB’s Notes:

    For the Q-Fest, I couldn’t find any 5-7 pound pumpkins, only 3-4 pounders, or 15 pounds and up. I finally found the 12 pound pumpkin that I brought. I knew 4 pounds wouldn’t be enough, and not knowing what would be cooking when, I didn’t know how much grill space would be available to cook 3 small pumpkins. I forgot to bring nutmeg, so I substituted Allspice, and probably added more than ½ teaspoon. Larger pumpkins cost much less per pound than the smaller "baking" pumpkins.

    Be sure to double the recipe if you get a larger pumpkin. I used double everything for the 12 # pumpkin. If there is any left, I, personally think the pie is better after refrigeration

    Don't quite fill the pumpkin, the custard expands and drips into the pan.

    Frugal Gourmet Cook's American, Jeff Smith





    but want to knead some bread i guess i may end up roasting the pumpkin like a zucchini and makea zuchini bread type.. with pumpkin just adding "pineapple Head" instead of some regular clove/cinimon mixture also guess i will have to add sugar..


    i like your wet bread thoughts cause it seems like this will have to be the direction i go :(

    happy eggin

    TB

    Anderson S.C.

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Tyrus Raymond Cobb

  • I prefer WhatsCookingDad to find out the best bread maker reviews, bread machine recipes which helps me to improve my baking skills.
  • BENTE said:
    you stupid or SCARED???

    my guess you are hiding cause you were ashamed to admit there is no pumpkin in your link!!!

    i only want people with knowledge i have 114 bread recepies several no knead plus no knead pizza dough recepie if i wanted them they are already here.. i asked specifically for pumpkin.. maybe you are just slow that is what i will call you!! scared and slow too scared to say who you are and too slow to comprehend what i meant when i said Pumpkin hopefully you will either show your dumba$$ or give me something i can use
    This really did use to be a much friendlier place.
    "A generation of the unteachable is hanging upon us like a necklace of corpses." - George Orwell 

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    Ruining the forum, one post at a time.  

    Living large in the 919
  • calikingcaliking Posts: 15,919
    WTH is going on in this thread...

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
  • GregWGregW Posts: 2,517
    All this over a bread recipe........
    Birmingham, AL
  • Even undisclosed secret pizza dough recipes haven't gotten this contentious, at least that I can recall.
    Stillwater, MN
  • CanuggheadCanugghead Posts: 8,624
    Even undisclosed secret pizza dough recipes haven't gotten this contentious, at least that I can recall.
    Just wondering if it’ll be in the will  =)
    canuckland
  • GregW said:
    All this over a bread recipe........

    PUMPKIN BREAD RECIPE YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!

    god some of these are just gold. There are some doozies from back then.
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • Well, his tag line checks out:

    "Life is too short to be diplomatic. A man's friends shouldn't mind what he does or says- and those who are not his friends, well, the hell with them. They don't count."

    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • CanuggheadCanugghead Posts: 8,624
    BENTE said:
    you stupid or SCARED???

    my guess you are hiding cause you were ashamed to admit there is no pumpkin in your link!!!

    i only want people with knowledge i have 114 bread recepies several no knead plus no knead pizza dough recepie if i wanted them they are already here.. i asked specifically for pumpkin.. maybe you are just slow that is what i will call you!! scared and slow too scared to say who you are and too slow to comprehend what i meant when i said Pumpkin hopefully you will either show your dumba$$ or give me something i can use
    This really did use to be a much friendlier place.
    Little Steven, author of ^^^ quote, was everyone's friend  ;)

    canuckland
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  • CanuggheadCanugghead Posts: 8,624
    edited October 2020
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  • CanuggheadCanugghead Posts: 8,624
    edited October 2020
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  • GregWGregW Posts: 2,517
    GregW said:
    All this over a bread recipe........

    PUMPKIN BREAD RECIPE YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!

    god some of these are just gold. There are some doozies from back then.
    I stand corrected
    Birmingham, AL
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  • calikingcaliking Posts: 15,919
    BENTE said:
    you stupid or SCARED???

    my guess you are hiding cause you were ashamed to admit there is no pumpkin in your link!!!

    i only want people with knowledge i have 114 bread recepies several no knead plus no knead pizza dough recepie if i wanted them they are already here.. i asked specifically for pumpkin.. maybe you are just slow that is what i will call you!! scared and slow too scared to say who you are and too slow to comprehend what i meant when i said Pumpkin hopefully you will either show your dumba$$ or give me something i can use
    This really did use to be a much friendlier place.
    Little Steven, author of ^^^ quote, was everyone's friend  ;)

    Canuckians are pretty friendly to begin with, but LS set the bar for sure. I really do miss him. 

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
  • jtcBoyntonjtcBoynton Posts: 2,778
    This is an interesting thread.  A person who seems to be mostly about directing traffic to their website digs up a decades old discussion of misbehaving members and then the discussion promptly seems to go off topic. 
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
  • NDGNDG Posts: 2,172
    caliking said:
    WTH is going on in this thread...

    OP asked for a pumpkin bread recipe

    Another guy posted that ubiquitous NY Times no-knead bread recipe

    OP goes ballistic, touts >100 bread recipes, the other guy's response doesn't have pumpkin and doesn't use high gluten flour, etc

    Rant goes on

    Misery from Steelers sucking

    Excessive ranting doesn't seem to be cathartic in any way

    World and the very existence of the universe depends on pumpkin bread recipe info, some info posted, TL;DR

    Likely outcome: antagonist actually a warlock and put curse on OP to develop painful case of genital warts.

    OP, in great pain and agony retreats to cave in smokey mountains, only to be a hermit and made last post circa 2015.

    The end.


    What a recap !!  Best Line . . "World and the very existence of the universe depends on pumpkin bread recipe info, some info posted, TL;DR"  . . . LOL
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