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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,827
    edited January 12
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    https://www.startribune.com/should-ice-agents-have-refused-bystander-medical-help-at-shooting-scene/601560462



    I’m sure there’s another perspective that casts this exchange in a different light, amirite?!?!?

    pretty sure she was not sleeping
    I agree with you here.  3 shots to the head, she probably was dead before the car hit the pole.

    Pretty impressive to triple tap while holding a phone to record and fearing for his life, and her actively turning away from the agents - even if he was safely beside the car and out of harms way at the time of the trigger pulls.  It’s all how he “felt” I guess.  Maybe he will get a Snowflake award to go along with his Purple Heart, Medal of Honor, and something for bravery.  I mean takes a cool customer to shoot an unarmed women in the face 3 times while standing besides her.

    as he walked around the front of the car the front wheels were turned to the left. his perspective at the time. figured i would mention that because jic likes that word so much. 
    For the sake of argument, let’s assume he did fear for his life at one moment.

    After the threat is gone and he and all other government officials are out of harms way, is lethal force still warranted?  If lethal force is still warranted, how long after the incident does lethal force stop being warranted?  30 sec, 30 minutes, 30 days, indefinite?

    how can you argue what ones thoughts are during a split second in their life during an event like this. im sure he feels differently today after rewinding the event over and over in his head.
    He says he felt threatened when he was in front of the car.

    He was standing beside the car while it was driving away from him.  If he cannot make accurate assessments of risk then he shouldn’t have a license to kill.

    My guess, call me crazy if you like, was that he was pissed off and wanted to teach this lady a lesson.  He did not have control of his emotions and let his ego and anger rule the moment.

    same as road rage or a shooting over a parking space.  Only this guy gets the Kings support.

    i see two people making bad decisions, one paid the bigger price. could care less about the kings rhetoric 
    The rhetoric isn't the problem, but rather that he'll face zero legal consequences for that decision.  The "King's support" is effectively a shield.  

    Most people think we should hold law enforcement to higher standards, especially when they're walking around with hand cannons and storming residences with assault rifles.  Hard to imagine, I know.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,209
    The shooter will not be held accountable because it opens up a tremendous amount of federal liability. (Recruitment processes, lack of training programs, etc.) 
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,728
    DoubleEgger said:

    Tank guy was probably safer in Tiananmen Square.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,728
    Transparency?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/10/minnesota-democrats-ice-00721211

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,653
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    https://www.startribune.com/should-ice-agents-have-refused-bystander-medical-help-at-shooting-scene/601560462



    I’m sure there’s another perspective that casts this exchange in a different light, amirite?!?!?

    pretty sure she was not sleeping
    I agree with you here.  3 shots to the head, she probably was dead before the car hit the pole.

    Pretty impressive to triple tap while holding a phone to record and fearing for his life, and her actively turning away from the agents - even if he was safely beside the car and out of harms way at the time of the trigger pulls.  It’s all how he “felt” I guess.  Maybe he will get a Snowflake award to go along with his Purple Heart, Medal of Honor, and something for bravery.  I mean takes a cool customer to shoot an unarmed women in the face 3 times while standing besides her.

    as he walked around the front of the car the front wheels were turned to the left. his perspective at the time. figured i would mention that because jic likes that word so much. 
    For the sake of argument, let’s assume he did fear for his life at one moment.

    After the threat is gone and he and all other government officials are out of harms way, is lethal force still warranted?  If lethal force is still warranted, how long after the incident does lethal force stop being warranted?  30 sec, 30 minutes, 30 days, indefinite?

    how can you argue what ones thoughts are during a split second in their life during an event like this. im sure he feels differently today after rewinding the event over and over in his head.
    He says he felt threatened when he was in front of the car.

    He was standing beside the car while it was driving away from him.  If he cannot make accurate assessments of risk then he shouldn’t have a license to kill.

    My guess, call me crazy if you like, was that he was pissed off and wanted to teach this lady a lesson.  He did not have control of his emotions and let his ego and anger rule the moment.

    same as road rage or a shooting over a parking space.  Only this guy gets the Kings support.

    i see two people making bad decisions, one paid the bigger price. could care less about the kings rhetoric 
    The rhetoric isn't the problem, but rather that he'll face zero legal consequences for that decision.  The "King's support" is effectively a shield.  

    Most people think we should hold law enforcement to higher standards, especially when they're walking around with hand cannons and storming residences with assault rifles.  Hard to imagine, I know.  

    i doubt it would have gone to trial or convicted anyways.  seems to be 50/50 if she hit him with the car or not
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,827
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    https://www.startribune.com/should-ice-agents-have-refused-bystander-medical-help-at-shooting-scene/601560462



    I’m sure there’s another perspective that casts this exchange in a different light, amirite?!?!?

    pretty sure she was not sleeping
    I agree with you here.  3 shots to the head, she probably was dead before the car hit the pole.

    Pretty impressive to triple tap while holding a phone to record and fearing for his life, and her actively turning away from the agents - even if he was safely beside the car and out of harms way at the time of the trigger pulls.  It’s all how he “felt” I guess.  Maybe he will get a Snowflake award to go along with his Purple Heart, Medal of Honor, and something for bravery.  I mean takes a cool customer to shoot an unarmed women in the face 3 times while standing besides her.

    as he walked around the front of the car the front wheels were turned to the left. his perspective at the time. figured i would mention that because jic likes that word so much. 
    For the sake of argument, let’s assume he did fear for his life at one moment.

    After the threat is gone and he and all other government officials are out of harms way, is lethal force still warranted?  If lethal force is still warranted, how long after the incident does lethal force stop being warranted?  30 sec, 30 minutes, 30 days, indefinite?

    how can you argue what ones thoughts are during a split second in their life during an event like this. im sure he feels differently today after rewinding the event over and over in his head.
    He says he felt threatened when he was in front of the car.

    He was standing beside the car while it was driving away from him.  If he cannot make accurate assessments of risk then he shouldn’t have a license to kill.

    My guess, call me crazy if you like, was that he was pissed off and wanted to teach this lady a lesson.  He did not have control of his emotions and let his ego and anger rule the moment.

    same as road rage or a shooting over a parking space.  Only this guy gets the Kings support.

    i see two people making bad decisions, one paid the bigger price. could care less about the kings rhetoric 
    The rhetoric isn't the problem, but rather that he'll face zero legal consequences for that decision.  The "King's support" is effectively a shield.  

    Most people think we should hold law enforcement to higher standards, especially when they're walking around with hand cannons and storming residences with assault rifles.  Hard to imagine, I know.  

    i doubt it would have gone to trial or convicted anyways.  seems to be 50/50 if she hit him with the car or not
    What’s remarkable here, fish, is that you think the fact he might have thought he was about to be hit by a car justified three shots at her face.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,653
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    fishlessman said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    https://www.startribune.com/should-ice-agents-have-refused-bystander-medical-help-at-shooting-scene/601560462



    I’m sure there’s another perspective that casts this exchange in a different light, amirite?!?!?

    pretty sure she was not sleeping
    I agree with you here.  3 shots to the head, she probably was dead before the car hit the pole.

    Pretty impressive to triple tap while holding a phone to record and fearing for his life, and her actively turning away from the agents - even if he was safely beside the car and out of harms way at the time of the trigger pulls.  It’s all how he “felt” I guess.  Maybe he will get a Snowflake award to go along with his Purple Heart, Medal of Honor, and something for bravery.  I mean takes a cool customer to shoot an unarmed women in the face 3 times while standing besides her.

    as he walked around the front of the car the front wheels were turned to the left. his perspective at the time. figured i would mention that because jic likes that word so much. 
    For the sake of argument, let’s assume he did fear for his life at one moment.

    After the threat is gone and he and all other government officials are out of harms way, is lethal force still warranted?  If lethal force is still warranted, how long after the incident does lethal force stop being warranted?  30 sec, 30 minutes, 30 days, indefinite?

    how can you argue what ones thoughts are during a split second in their life during an event like this. im sure he feels differently today after rewinding the event over and over in his head.
    He says he felt threatened when he was in front of the car.

    He was standing beside the car while it was driving away from him.  If he cannot make accurate assessments of risk then he shouldn’t have a license to kill.

    My guess, call me crazy if you like, was that he was pissed off and wanted to teach this lady a lesson.  He did not have control of his emotions and let his ego and anger rule the moment.

    same as road rage or a shooting over a parking space.  Only this guy gets the Kings support.

    i see two people making bad decisions, one paid the bigger price. could care less about the kings rhetoric 
    The rhetoric isn't the problem, but rather that he'll face zero legal consequences for that decision.  The "King's support" is effectively a shield.  

    Most people think we should hold law enforcement to higher standards, especially when they're walking around with hand cannons and storming residences with assault rifles.  Hard to imagine, I know.  

    i doubt it would have gone to trial or convicted anyways.  seems to be 50/50 if she hit him with the car or not
    What’s remarkable here, fish, is that you think the fact he might have thought he was about to be hit by a car justified three shots at her face.

    did she really need 4000 pounds of steel......maybe, my drivers ed teacher taught me that if i ever hit someone, make sure they are dead. the school was run by marist brothers =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • GrateEggspectations
    GrateEggspectations Posts: 11,660

    Trump says Greenland should make a deal: 'You know what their defense is, two dog sleds'

    Trump says if U.S. doesn't take Greenland 'Russia or China will and I'm not letting that happen'

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/trump-us-greenland

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  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,900
    edited 6:27AM
    fishlessman said:

    how can you argue what ones thoughts are during a split second in their life during an event like this. im sure he feels differently today after rewinding the event over and over in his head.
    One would hope he might think better of immediately calling the woman he just killed a "f-in b-tch". 
    Stillwater, MN
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,728
    GrateEggspectations said:

    Trump says Greenland should make a deal: 'You know what their defense is, two dog sleds'

    Trump says if U.S. doesn't take Greenland 'Russia or China will and I'm not letting that happen'

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/trump-us-greenland

    In 2023 I would have said this was fantasy. In 2026 I figure war with Greenland and NATO is a forgone conclusion. I wonder what we as citizens can do to stop this travesty?  How the King can reshape every single aspect of our lives and the world with no checks and balances is insane to me.  How did we get here?  How is this the buffoon who breaks everything?

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,209
    @Ozzie_Isaac. Less than 20 republicans control his fate and keep him from being removed from office. 
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,653
    DoubleEgger said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac. Less than 20 republicans control his fate and keep him from being removed from office. 

    he would just run the presidency thru the hillbily =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 7,345
    fishlessman said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac. Less than 20 republicans control his fate and keep him from being removed from office. 

    he would just run the presidency thru the hillbily =)
    President Sock Puppet 2.0?
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,728
    edited 7:38PM
    DoubleEgger said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac. Less than 20 republicans control his fate and keep him from being removed from office. 
    A few thoughts with that in mind:

    1. Hopefully we survive until the mid-terms.
    2. Hopefully the king allows elections.  Pretty sure we will have some finger dipping in ink to prove we voted - king is undoing early voting, vote machines, ID requirements, Jerry mandering , and using ICE to intimidate everyone, and anything else he can do.
    3. If Republicans loose seats hopefully the king will honor the voters will and he will not invalidate the votes.
    4. Hopefully the king allows the newly elected officials to actually be seated and sworn in.

    Just some off the cuff thoughts on that.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,728
    OmG ThIS haS GoT tO Be irONY.


    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,827

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,728
    JohnInCarolina said:

    Conclusion:  Protesting current administration is punishable by death - sanctioned by the government.

    Got it.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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