OT - What are you doing now? (2025)

WeberWho · March 25

alaskanassasin said:

@WeberWho Can you explain how a bad oil filter leaked all your oil out? Just curious. Also when I lived in Raleigh I had a buddy who sold corrugated paper board to Warren and he said the same oil goes in the name brand jugs that goes in the Warren jugs.

I'm not exactly sure. I'm guessing it had a bad o-ring on the filter. I wasn't convinced at first it was the filter. Part of the oil filter was dry. The oil coated the bottom of the truck towards the back and not the front. My initial thought was maybe the oil pan gasket. Which really didn't make sense the more I thought about it as it didn't leak prior and why it would leak after an oil change. I always double, triple check the box to make sure it's the right filter before purchasing.

I was a little worried when changing oil for the second time as I wasn't fully convinced it was the oil filter. It looked like the oil leak was near the oil filter. New oil and a Wix filter fixed it.

Supertech always gets good reviews when it's tested. Hard to spend an extra $10+ for pretty much the exact same oil with a different name on it. I don't have high end vehicle's that I really need to worry about what I'm putting in them but I've never had any issues the last 10 years with Supertech oil and filters. I run the same thing in my lawnmower. The one time I run something else besides a Supertech oil filter and I end up with oil all over my garage floor. Go figure!

alaskanassasin · March 25

@WeberWho pretty strange, the only thing I can think of is maybe you had the old filter gasket stuck to the block and when the new filter went on it compressed it and leaked. Just spit balling, glad you got it figured out. I have dumped oil back into the block before replacing the drain plug, with earbuds in I didn’t hear it going in the pan..

GrateEggspectations · March 25

@alaskanassasin

That’s a good theory. Have seen that happen before.

Botch · March 25

Been there, done that. When I tightened on my new filter it didn't give progressively more resistance like it usually did, instead it just stopped. I torqued it to spec, poured in the oil, started it up, heard the same "air leak" sound you did, looked at the engine and could see the oil pouring out at the top of the filter. Stopped the engine and found that the threads in the hole at the top of the filter weren't cut all the way thru, and the rubber gasket hadn't yet made contact with the engine block. d'Oh!
By the time I'd got things cleaned up, it was too late to go to the 45th USAF Anniversary Air Show at WPAFB in Dayton OH that day. I stepped out of the garage wiping my hands and saw the featured Wright Brother's Flyer replica fly overhead, so got to see that, along with the Thunderbirds, at least.

alaskanassasin · March 25

That is a good explanation @botch!

WeberWho · March 25

alaskanassasin said:

That is a good explanation @botch!

When I get home this evening I'll have to take a look. I want to say it was more of a lock thinking about it than a squeeze on the final tightening. I didn't have time to do any investigating last night.

Canugghead · March 25

alaskanassasin said:

@WeberWho pretty strange, the only thing I can think of is maybe you had the old filter gasket stuck to the block and when the new filter went on it compressed it and leaked. Just spit balling, glad you got it figured out. I have dumped oil back into the block before replacing the drain plug, with earbuds in I didn’t hear it going in the pan..

Many years ago the 'double gasket' happened to a friend that just learned how to do an oil change, he blew the VW engine, Ouch!

My oll change checklist:
1) Make sure the old gasket is off (how can I forget!)
2) Make sure that new filter, oil plug and new oil are in, sounds obvious but doesn't hurt to check and recheck.
3) Crank with non-chipped key, apparently it helps prime the system without running the engine, not sure if it actually helps. Now I'm also thinking if the dry crank would also pressurise and squirt oil if there's a leak?
4) After starting let it run for couple of minutes, watch and listen for anything unusual.

GrateEggspectations · March 25

Canugghead said:

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alaskanassasin said:

@WeberWho pretty strange, the only thing I can think of is maybe you had the old filter gasket stuck to the block and when the new filter went on it compressed it and leaked. Just spit balling, glad you got it figured out. I have dumped oil back into the block before replacing the drain plug, with earbuds in I didn’t hear it going in the pan..
Many years ago the 'double gasket' happened to a friend that just learned how to do an oil change, he blew the VW engine, Ouch!

My oll change checklist:
1) Make sure the old gasket is off (how can I forget!)
2) Make sure that new filter, oil plug and new oil are in, sounds obvious but doesn't hurt to check and recheck.
3) Crank with non-chipped key, apparently it helps prime the system without running the engine, not sure if it actually helps. Now I'm also thinking if the dry crank would also pressurise and squirt oil if there's a leak?
4) After starting let it run for couple of minutes, watch and listen for anything unusual.

“Your friend” sure had some bad luck. 😉😉

Father taught me to do oil changes decades back. To the above I would add: Oil the gasket on the new filter. Hand tighten firmly (I’ve definitely overtightened on many occasions and have had to destroy the filter during removal), and as you say in step 4, always start the car and spend a good 30 seconds looking underneath to ensure all is well. And don’t overtighten your drain plug, lest you wish to visit your mechanic for a bigger one (never had that happen, thankfully, but am aware of the risk).

fishlessman · March 25

Canugghead said:

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alaskanassasin said:

@WeberWho pretty strange, the only thing I can think of is maybe you had the old filter gasket stuck to the block and when the new filter went on it compressed it and leaked. Just spit balling, glad you got it figured out. I have dumped oil back into the block before replacing the drain plug, with earbuds in I didn’t hear it going in the pan..
Many years ago the 'double gasket' happened to a friend that just learned how to do an oil change, he blew the VW engine, Ouch!

My oll change checklist:
1) Make sure the old gasket is off (how can I forget!)
2) Make sure that new filter, oil plug and new oil are in, sounds obvious but doesn't hurt to check and recheck.
3) Crank with non-chipped key, apparently it helps prime the system without running the engine, not sure if it actually helps. Now I'm also thinking if the dry crank would also pressurise and squirt oil if there's a leak?
4) After starting let it run for couple of minutes, watch and listen for anything unusual.

was always taught to fill the filter 2/3rds and oil that gasket before putting it on. that and dont buy a horizontal filter car were you need to remove the tire. i bring mine to valvoline now anyways

the rover was the worst for an oil change, the oil was a castrol version not sold in the states except thru dealers and online import shops, the filter needed a rover built wrench, and there is no simple drain so go buy a pump

alaskanassasin · March 25

I always fill the filters where applicable @fishlessman

Gulfcoastguy · March 25

My old 1991 pickup was the worst. Not only was the oil filter horizontal but it was surrounded by about 5 hoses. Using a ratchet wrench, a long extension, and a filter band I was able to get about an eighth of a turn at a time.

Canugghead · March 25

@alaskanassasin and @fishlessman
Forgot about it in my checklist, I do fill new filter partially with oil and rub the seal with greasy finger. Now that I have trouble remembering things, I should print a poster for the garage wall, lol.

My Honda van has horizontal filter behind the right front wheel, turning the wheel all the way to the right allows easy access without crawling under.

Elijah · March 25

Since we're on the automotive theme my wife's shock spit out the seals. I've never seen that. I could do the work, but I'm worried about timing so we're paying. Ouch.

Botch · March 25

Elijah said:

Since we're on the automotive theme my wife's shock spit out the seals. I've never seen that. I could do the work, but I'm worried about timing so we're paying. Ouch.

Shocks, and exhaust parts, are two systems I've learned are best paid to have done.

WeberWho · March 25

I didn't notice anything visually on the oil filter that was a dead giveaway. Here's a close up on the threads. I don't think the very last thread would have kept it from threading all the way down?

The front half of the oil filter was dry to the touch and the oil sprayed towards the back of the truck. No signs of any type of damage on the seal of the filter. A head scratcher.

alaskanassasin · March 26

WeberWho said:

I didn't notice anything visually on the oil filter that was a dead giveaway. Here's a close up on the threads. I don't think the very last thread would have kept it from threading all the way down?

The front half of the oil filter was dry to the touch and the oil sprayed towards the back of the truck. No signs of any type of damage on the seal of the filter. A head scratcher.

If you flip it over does it sit flat on the seal? Maybe the center is raised too high?

WeberWho · March 26

alaskanassasin said:

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WeberWho said:

I didn't notice anything visually on the oil filter that was a dead giveaway. Here's a close up on the threads. I don't think the very last thread would have kept it from threading all the way down?

The front half of the oil filter was dry to the touch and the oil sprayed towards the back of the truck. No signs of any type of damage on the seal of the filter. A head scratcher.

If you flip it over does it sit flat on the seal? Maybe the center is raised too high?

Great point. I just flipped it upside down and backlit it to see if I could get any light to shine through and it was flush with the countertop.

The only thing that has me suspicious is that I think I can recall the filter stopping when I compressed it. I've never had a filter stop after being compressed. You can tighten them until you can't physically tighten them but not stop. I don't know if it's just a defective filter off the line or just a different filter all together.

alaskanassasin · March 26

WeberWho said:

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alaskanassasin said:

WeberWho said:

I didn't notice anything visually on the oil filter that was a dead giveaway. Here's a close up on the threads. I don't think the very last thread would have kept it from threading all the way down?

The front half of the oil filter was dry to the touch and the oil sprayed towards the back of the truck. No signs of any type of damage on the seal of the filter. A head scratcher.

If you flip it over does it sit flat on the seal? Maybe the center is raised too high?

Great point. I just flipped it upside down and backlit it to see if I could get any light to shine through and it was flush with the countertop.

The only thing that has me suspicious is that I think I can recall the filter stopping when I compressed it. I've never had a filter stop after being compressed. You can tighten them until you can't physically tighten them but not stop. I don't know if it's just a defective filter off the line or just a different filter all together.

Thanks for the follow up posts. Glad you caught it before any real damage occurred.

Botch · March 26

Yeesh. Couple of golfers in West Valley City (suburb west of SLC) saw what looked like a human skull at the edge of the water, called it in. It WAS a human skull, with a full skeleton attached; in a pond on a golf course!
I don’t play golf, but… how does that happen?

Gulfcoastguy · March 27

Someone couldn’t cover his bets?

Battleborn · March 27

Botch said:

Yeesh. Couple of golfers in West Valley City (suburb west of SLC) saw what looked like a human skull at the edge of the water, called it in. It WAS a human skull, with a full skeleton attached; in a pond on a golf course!
I don’t play golf, but… how does that happen?

We found a teenager dead in a golf course pond last summer. Thought is he ran away and got into one of the storm washes that eventually led to the golf course. Granted he was pretty fresh, but there non-foul play explanations.

shtgunal3 · March 27

Pumping the water off of the pool cover

Botch · March 27

Battleborn said:
We found a teenager dead in a golf course pond last summer. Thought is he ran away and got into one of the storm washes that eventually led to the golf course. Granted he was pretty fresh, but there non-foul play explanations.

Are “storm washes” the same thing we called “arroyos” in Albuquerque? Concrete-lined? They’d always find a couple teenagers and a couple skateboards at the outlet fields after a surprise rainstorm.

Battleborn · March 27

Botch said:

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Battleborn said:
We found a teenager dead in a golf course pond last summer. Thought is he ran away and got into one of the storm washes that eventually led to the golf course. Granted he was pretty fresh, but there non-foul play explanations.

Are “storm washes” the same thing we called “arroyos” in Albuquerque? Concrete-lined? They’d always find a couple teenagers and a couple skateboards at the outlet fields after a surprise rainstorm.

Essentially yes. In addition to the “outdoor” sections, we have a large tunnel system that always pop out surprises.

JohnInCarolina · March 27

Botch said:

Yeesh. Couple of golfers in West Valley City (suburb west of SLC) saw what looked like a human skull at the edge of the water, called it in. It WAS a human skull, with a full skeleton attached; in a pond on a golf course!
I don’t play golf, but… how does that happen?

You’ve never seen Caddyshack?

Obviously another old guy just decided to play a round in the middle of a lightning storm….

GrateEggspectations · March 27

Was thinking about your experience and dreading the worst when I performed a quick oil change this morning, @WeberWho. The plugs for the car are one-time use and are plastic. It’s always bothered me that you are supposed to hear a “click” when the plug is fully seated, but it often isn’t audible, leaving me wondering if it’s fully in. The position of it once installed is such that I can’t even get a view, so it’s always unnerving. I often then compensate by over tightening to the point the plastic around the flathead slot becomes mangled (which introduces new concerns).

Kindly refrain from sharing any further oil change horror stories! 😂

lousubcap · March 27

Obviously the oil change was satisfactory @GrateEggspectations as no follow-on exploits have been posted, unless you are still dealing with the post-event carnage.

Botch · March 27

JohnInCarolina said:
You’ve never seen Caddyshack?

Obviously another old guy just decided to play a round in the middle of a lightning storm….

I saw the first part in the theater, at Iowa State somewhere between '78 and '80, along with a bunch of kids from my co-ed dorm floor. I saw that stupid rodent in the movie come out of its hole, "dancing", and I said in a rather loud voice (we were there right after Happy Hour) "That's no gopher, it's a Frat Rat! Lookit how he dances!"
Chuckles throughout the theater and my friends, but all three of the rows directly in front of us, all male, slowly turned to look at me, intently... I recognized two of them as part of the Tri-Delts.
Severe tactical error on my part.
I don't remember what happened after that (it was right after Happy Hour) but I certainly don't remember the rest of the movie, nor an old guy getting hit by lightning.

lousubcap · March 27

@Botch- you need to give Caddyshack another look. "Not even God can hit a one iron!"

Gulfcoastguy · March 27

I saw Caddy Shack in Birmingham Al. I was interning with a company there. Well to be more accurate in Hoover. Even then actual Birmingham wasn’t the best place to be.

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