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OT - Carbon Fiber Guitar

It’s a long shot and I don’t expect to find anyone with experience responsive to this request, but.....

Because I live in a climate of extremes - hot, humid summers as well as long, bitterly cold and dry winters, I was thinking I’d pick up a carbon fiber guitar that can be left anywhere in the house in any weather conditions. The rest of my guitars live in a humidified music room, meaning I don’t always have easy access. 

Am quite certain I’ll pick up the Journey OF660 - a carbon fiber, collapsible guitar that can fit in the overhead compartment of airplanes. They get great reviews. I think I’ve seen every video and read every article about them. https://journeyinstruments.com/product-category/overhead-collapsible-carbon-guitars/

Anyone else have experience with this model or even with other carbon fiber guitars more generally?
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  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    I have to make damn sure neither of my boys see this.  Thanks for posting. 

    And no, no experience 
  • @theyolksonyou: Why is that? They’ll want it? Buy it for both - give the neck to one son and the body to the other. Lol.

    My guitar collection is pretty complete. I just love the idea of a guitar that is impervious to the elements and can be broken down for travel - though I don’t even think I’ll travel with it all that much. 
  • I've played a lot of carbon fiber Ovations over the years. Not a fan of the tone when not plugged in (and I hate the rounded back). Not sure all CF guitars sound like the Ovations when played accoustically, but if they do, I wouldn't want one.
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    @theyolksonyou: Why is that? They’ll want it? Buy it for both - give the neck to one son and the body to the other. Lol.

    My guitar collection is pretty complete. I just love the idea of a guitar that is impervious to the elements and can be broken down for travel - though I don’t even think I’ll travel with it all that much. 
    Between the two of them they’ve/we’ve bought three guitars in less than 3 months.  My youngest would be all over that just for the novelty of breaking it down.  
  • GrateEggspectations
    GrateEggspectations Posts: 11,613
    edited August 2019
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker: Thanks for the background. These are nothing like Ovations - which I never cared for (agree about the round backs and the tone unplugged). In fact, there is a video featuring sound clips of the OF660 (carbon fiber) played back to back and blindly against guitars with traditional tone woods. I had a hard time discerning which was which. This guitar gets fantastic reviews and features endorsement from some of the world’s best fingerstyle players (e.g. Don Ross, Don Alder, Adrien Bellue, etc.). Just take my money now!!
  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,173
    edited August 2019
    I have to make damn sure neither of my boys see this.  
    I’ll fix that.
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    I have to make damn sure neither of my boys see this.  
    I’ll fix that.
    With friends like you...
  • @The Cen-Tex Smoker: Thanks for the background. These are nothing like Ovations - which I never cared for (agree about the round backs and the tone unplugged). In fact, there is a video featuring sound clips of the OF660 (carbon fiber) played back to back and blindly against guitars with traditional tone woods. I had a hard time discerning which was which. This guitar gets fantastic reviews and features endorsement from some of the world’s best fingerstyle players (e.g. Don Ross, Don Alder, Adrien Bellue, etc.). Just take my money now!!
    Sounds like an awesome instrument. I'll have to check them out.
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    Can you play any song you want on them, or are they limited to greatest hits such as Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin' ?

    I'll see myself out. 


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

  • MCRyan
    MCRyan Posts: 167
    Grate, seems like it fits the bill for what you want.  I am not too familiar w/the brand, but know they are great for what they are.  I too have a humidity controlled room for all my guitars.  I actually have them hanging on the wall as opposed to being cased up.  I consider them works of art, why not enjoy them if taken care of (temp/humidity).   

    My only thing, at that price (what I saw in the web), I’d be too tempted to roll the dough into a more traditional instrument.  Sounds like we are similar in the fact that our “bases are covered”.  I can always use another Martin, American Standard Strat (w/maple neck if you already have a rosewood fretboard), a Les Paul in a different finish, etc.  Also, tone/sound is paramount to me.  If I was going to the trouble to travel w/a certain guitar, it better sound good enough to buy it an airline ticket.  =)
    XLBGE, SS table
    McKinney, TX.
  • vb4677
    vb4677 Posts: 687
    ARE.YOU.KIDDING.ME.?

    I had that idea years ago, but threw it out as wildly impractical and cost prohibitive...

    Dang... now I gotta get one!
    Kansas City: Too Much City for One State - Missouri side
    2 Large BGE's, Instant Pot, Anova Sous Vide, and a gas smoker...
    Barbeque, Homebrew and Blues...
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,380
    I've played a lot of carbon fiber Ovations over the years. Not a fan of the tone when not plugged in (and I hate the rounded back). Not sure all CF guitars sound like the Ovations when played accoustically, but if they do, I wouldn't want one.
    My college roommate the last 3 years played an Ovation, I loved the sound of it acoustic, rumor has it that the first time Doc XXX (dammit, can't remember his name, old blind white guy in the bluegrass genre) heard an Ovation, he said "Dayam, someone just pulled out a fine ol' Martin!"  
    But, they aren't collapsible, and their spruce top and ebony fretboard are susceptible to cracking via humidity swings, just like most geetars.  

    "Dumplings are just noodles that have already eaten"   - Jon Kung

    Ogden, UT, USA


  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,380
    Doc Watson!  Amazing how a good bathroom break can clear my mind!
     
    Ew.   :s

    "Dumplings are just noodles that have already eaten"   - Jon Kung

    Ogden, UT, USA


  • GlennM
    GlennM Posts: 1,449
    I have played a few carbon fibre guitars and was quite surprised at how good they sound. It looks like you have enough reasons to make the purchase!  maybe it’s not a good idea to listen to me, I have been selling guitars (New and Vintage) for 45 years and I seem to be a bit of a pushover for a nice axe!
    In the bush just East of Cambridge,Ontario 
  • MCRyan said:
    Grate, seems like it fits the bill for what you want.  I am not too familiar w/the brand, but know they are great for what they are.  I too have a humidity controlled room for all my guitars.  I actually have them hanging on the wall as opposed to being cased up.  I consider them works of art, why not enjoy them if taken care of (temp/humidity).   

    My only thing, at that price (what I saw in the web), I’d be too tempted to roll the dough into a more traditional instrument.  Sounds like we are similar in the fact that our “bases are covered”.  I can always use another Martin, American Standard Strat (w/maple neck if you already have a rosewood fretboard), a Les Paul in a different finish, etc.  Also, tone/sound is paramount to me.  If I was going to the trouble to travel w/a certain guitar, it better sound good enough to buy it an airline ticket.  =)
    Sounds like you and I need to compare notes further. 🙂

    The only other guitars I’ve been jonesin’ for are Suhrs - either the Modern or the new Ian Thonley Signature JM (as Ian is my favourite player). Either would be several bills over and above this guy and would leave me with the same issue of not always having easy access to a quality guitar that could be left outside of a humidity controlled environment. I also play a lot more acoustic these days. Probably best that way, with young kids.  

    The OF660 will reside on the wall hanger between my kitchen and living room. The thing is that it is so easy to collapse that it’s like you weren’t even travelling with a guitar. A complete and well thought out instrument. 
  • GlennM said:
    I have played a few carbon fibre guitars and was quite surprised at how good they sound. It looks like you have enough reasons to make the purchase!  maybe it’s not a good idea to listen to me, I have been selling guitars (New and Vintage) for 45 years and I seem to be a bit of a pushover for a nice axe!
    Thanks for the push. 🙂

    Have you dealt in instruments professionally, or just as a hobby? Bet you’ve loved and lost your fair share during that period. 

    Several years ago, I went to pick up a used amplifier at a waterfront property a few hours from my place. The seller was a former high tech executive who had been collecting guitars for 50 years and was selling off his gear. He showed me a photo album of literally hundreds of guitars that he had owned. Every major make and model you can imagine. Dozens of early Strats. Jaw dropping collection. 
  • MCRyan
    MCRyan Posts: 167
    Interesting story Grate...  sounds like that guy had quite the arsenal.  My problem is that guitars are too personal to me. I never get rid of anything.  So, they accumulate over the years.  That said, it’s not like I have dozens of guitars.  I buy very purposefully and get what I want (within reason).  My guitars are all “standard”, nothing really custom or boutique. All American made, because I am a guitar snob (kind of kidding).  I can say they are all played with a decent rotation.  Conversely, they are investments.   They certainly aren’t getting any cheaper year after year!  Bought my first Strat in 89 for $499.   :o
    XLBGE, SS table
    McKinney, TX.
  • ColbyLang
    ColbyLang Posts: 4,408
    Check out CA Guitars. Carbon fiber. Used to be built in Lafayette La. my little brother picked up a “blem” for next to nothing. There’s literally nothing wrong with it. Appears the company here folded and now Peavey is selling one under the same label. 

  • @ColbyLang: Thanks. Yes, the Composite Acoustics Cargo is a direct competitor of the OF660 and is also intended for air travel, though it features a shorter scale length and is not collapsible. While I dig the Cargo and actually almost bought one used a few months back, I think my preference lies with the OF660. There are not many videos comparing them directly - only two I am aware of where they are A B’d back to back. 
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,380
    MCRyan said:
    Interesting story Grate...  sounds like that guy had quite the arsenal.  My problem is that guitars are too personal to me. I never get rid of anything.  So, they accumulate over the years.  That said, it’s not like I have dozens of guitars.  I buy very purposefully and get what I want (within reason).  My guitars are all “standard”, nothing really custom or boutique. All American made, because I am a guitar snob (kind of kidding).  I can say they are all played with a decent rotation.  Conversely, they are investments.   They certainly aren’t getting any cheaper year after year!  Bought my first Strat in 89 for $499.   :o
    Would love to see a "group portrait", or at least a list!
    I'm not a guitarist (birth defect in my ring finger) but I love music, beautiful instruments, and fine woodworking, so I'm always interested.  

    "Dumplings are just noodles that have already eaten"   - Jon Kung

    Ogden, UT, USA


  • GlennM
    GlennM Posts: 1,449
    I owned a high end guitar shop for many years and then sold it to a large chain. I work for them part time now, I have quite a few vintage instruments and play professionally.

    In the bush just East of Cambridge,Ontario 
  • GlennM said:
    I owned a high end guitar shop for many years and then sold it to a large chain. I work for them part time now, I have quite a few vintage instruments and play professionally.

    Very cool. Would love to see your collection and some clips of you playing, should these be available anywhere. 
  • Kent8621
    Kent8621 Posts: 843
    composites are very tricky and can be affected by weather much like wood and other products.  if you have some background on core material, if its a pre-impregnated carbon fiber the layup of the materials and curing of the materials.  if you have that information i can give you a better idea of what you are going to be dealing with in the different conditions based on some standard tables we use.  feel free t just send me a message and i can look up the information to tell you have much of a variation you could expect. 

    2 Large Eggs - Raleigh, NC

    Boiler Up!!

  • Kent8621 said:
    composites are very tricky and can be affected by weather much like wood and other products.  if you have some background on core material, if its a pre-impregnated carbon fiber the layup of the materials and curing of the materials.  if you have that information i can give you a better idea of what you are going to be dealing with in the different conditions based on some standard tables we use.  feel free t just send me a message and i can look up the information to tell you have much of a variation you could expect. 
    Thanks for the kind offer. I am not aware as to the composition of the carbon fiber they use. I didn’t realize that carbon fiber would be affected by the elements. This aspect doesn’t bother me, so long as the material itself isn’t subject to damage in extreme weather the way wood would be. I’ve had some high end wood guitars split because of changes in temperature and humidity.
  • Ordered. Let’s hope it doesn’t take too long to make its way to my place. 
  • MCRyan
    MCRyan Posts: 167
    @Botch, sorry to hear about your ring finger.  None of my business, but don’t let it hold you back!  I’m happy to share some pics of what I have currently hanging:



    2006 Fender America Standard Telecaster
    1979 Japanese Alvarez (my first guitar I got when I was 8 years old)
    1996 Martin D28
    1996 Martin D16SPD
    2019 Gibson DC Junior Tribute
    2014 Gibson Les Paul Traditional 
    1989 American Deluxe Fender Stratocaster (not the Strat Plus, regular nut w/Lace Sensors.  Not many were made like this).  
    Oh, the guitar on the floor stand is an old Yamaha 12 string I converted to a six years ago.  It was bowing like a canoe!  Ha!!!

    Grate, congrats!!!  Can’t wait to hear about your new acquisition!   
    XLBGE, SS table
    McKinney, TX.
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2019
    MCRyan said:
    @Botch, sorry to hear about your ring finger.  None of my business, but don’t let it hold you back!    
    Oh, I haven't; I've played fiddle, some banjo, and pedal steel guitar, where I've been able to "work around" one bad finger.  It gets in the way on fiddle, but as long as you have the shuffle bow going, you're gonna fill the dance floor regardless!   
     
    Love that sunburst Les Paul!  

    "Dumplings are just noodles that have already eaten"   - Jon Kung

    Ogden, UT, USA


  • MCRyan
    MCRyan Posts: 167
    So happy to hear that Botch!  

    Music and being able to play it (to the best of my ability) for fun and for money at times has helped me through life for sure.  It’s therapy, a gift, and a blessing.  
    XLBGE, SS table
    McKinney, TX.
  • MCRyan
    MCRyan Posts: 167
    Also, thanks on the LP!  It’s an “Ice Tea” burst.  I Love that guitar.  Luckily, I have the best wife in the world.  She “gets” my passion/love for guitars and appreciates them. BTW, the D28 was my Christmas gift our first year of marriage.  I’m a fortunate man for sure.  
    XLBGE, SS table
    McKinney, TX.
  • MCRyan said:
    Also, thanks on the LP!  It’s an “Ice Tea” burst.  I Love that guitar.  Luckily, I have the best wife in the world.  She “gets” my passion/love for guitars and appreciates them. BTW, the D28 was my Christmas gift our first year of marriage.  I’m a fortunate man for sure.  
    Permissive wives are the best. 🙂

    I own about a dozen guitars and more tube amps. Somehow, my wife has tolerated all of these purchases over the years. 

    I am a lucky man, in many, many ways.