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R.I.P. Net Neutrality

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nolaegghead
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  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
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    Sucks.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

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  • BizGreenEgg
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    Something like 83% of people are against repealing.  I wish I was shocked that the FCC would listen to a few large corporations over the vast majority of citizens.
    Large BGE & mini stepchild & a KJ Jr.
    The damp PNW 
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  • GrillSgt
    GrillSgt Posts: 2,507
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    FCC listened to the person that those corporations own. 
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    BizGreenEgg said:
    Something like 83% of people are against repealing.  I wish I was shocked that the FCC would listen to a few large corporations over the vast majority of citizens.
    ...and 17% are Trump supporters that don't know what the hell "Net Neutrality" is.
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  • DoubleEgger
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    nolaegghead said:
    BizGreenEgg said:
    Something like 83% of people are against repealing.  I wish I was shocked that the FCC would listen to a few large corporations over the vast majority of citizens.
    ...and 17% are Trump supporters that don't know what the hell "Net Neutrality" is.
    Is this more of the fact based reporting that you mentioned the other day? 

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,186
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    If an NFL players suspension goes through the Federal court system, surely this will be litigated all the way to the Supreme Court. 
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  • HeavyG
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    Will be interesting to see how quickly any ISP's will take advantage of the situation.

    My guess is they will all tread very lightly knowing that there will be a lot of focus on them looking for any egregious behavior.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 10,766
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    nolaegghead said:
    BizGreenEgg said:
    Something like 83% of people are against repealing.  I wish I was shocked that the FCC would listen to a few large corporations over the vast majority of citizens.
    ...and 17% are Trump supporters that don't know what the hell "Net Neutrality" is.
    I thought it was a Gender thing when I first heard it
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
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    NM
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    Central, IL

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  • CarolinaCrazy
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    Pissed that it's gotten this far, but no surprise that the FCC voted as it did, down party lines.  But this ain't over. There will be well funded lawsuits to challenge this ruling. 
    1 LBGE in Chapel Hill, NC
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    but this is good for business, right?  that's all I care about
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,767
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    making the fax great again =) bring back the fax....im good with that
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • DoubleEgger
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    Legume said:
    but this is good for business, right?  that's all I care about
    It’s going to be a small business killer. 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,977
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    The guy in charge - Ajit Pai - is such a tool.

    https://gizmodo.com/ajit-pai-thinks-youre-stupid-enough-to-buy-this-crap-1821277398


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  • Legume
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    DoubleEgger said:
    Legume said:
    but this is good for business, right?  that's all I care about
    It’s going to be a small business killer. 
    Maybe just in the short term, but once the big boys are able to make cutting the cord less viable and they can get back to profits, the economy will soar and it will rain down money on everyone who can then go start new businesses and buy stuff.
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  • nolaegghead
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    DoubleEgger said:
    nolaegghead said:
    BizGreenEgg said:
    Something like 83% of people are against repealing.  I wish I was shocked that the FCC would listen to a few large corporations over the vast majority of citizens.
    ...and 17% are Trump supporters that don't know what the hell "Net Neutrality" is.
    Is this more of the fact based reporting that you mentioned the other day? 

    That was intended to be obvious sarcasm. 
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  • nolaegghead
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    Legume said:
    but this is good for business, right?  that's all I care about
    For the big 4 telecoms, hell yeah. 
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  • tenpenny_05
    tenpenny_05 Posts: 286
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    Does anybody remember what we did a year and a half ago before we had net neutrality?  Must not have been too bad....
    Kansas City, Kansas
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  • gdenby
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    FWIW,

    I've got a base level service. $20/mo for 2 Gb. on cellular. Unlimited via land line for $34, but 2 Gb  takes at least 8 min and up to 15, assuming it doesn't fail mid way. (Before retirement, my desktop was 1 Gb/sec) Via cellular, only about 3 min for the same, but there goes the whole month.

    I can go to Walgreens, Office Depot, etc, buy a 32 Gb SSD drive for maybe $12, and use priority US mail for $6+ to transfer the data overnite.

    So kiddees, back to snail mail. Quite secure, and the media will be useful many times.  Not good for "Gotta have it now!" but if you want to get a Tb of data, say the whole of your families memorabilia, to a loved one, way cheaper than the glorious 'net.




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  • DoubleEgger
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    nolaegghead said:
    DoubleEgger said:
    nolaegghead said:
    BizGreenEgg said:
    Something like 83% of people are against repealing.  I wish I was shocked that the FCC would listen to a few large corporations over the vast majority of citizens.
    ...and 17% are Trump supporters that don't know what the hell "Net Neutrality" is.
    Is this more of the fact based reporting that you mentioned the other day? 

    That was intended to be obvious sarcasm. 
    As was my comment, duh
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 17,186
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    I should start using these  =)=)=)
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  • Eoin
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    DoubleEgger said:
    I should start using these  =)=)=)
    Everyone should, on every post.
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  • Legume
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    nolaegghead said:
    tenpenny_05 said:
    Does anybody remember what we did a year and a half ago before we had net neutrality?  Must not have been too bad....
    I do.  Some of the telecoms where blocking certain types of traffic, like bit torrent, and other services from competitors were slowed down, there are plenty of documented issues.  The telecoms would come back and say there were just testing something or another. 

    Next time around, they will have a law giving express permission to offer tiered services.  So netflix might have to pay more to the ISPs because they compete with the ISPs services.  Netflix will have to pay more to get back what they're losing in bandwidth.  Price will be passed on to the consumer. 
    So more time for chill?
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  • tenpenny_05
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    We are not consumers of the internet. We are the products of the internet.

    What Google, Facebook, and most other big internet companies have in common is that they are free because they make money by just having us here.

    Think of AOL in the early days of the internet, they were our email, our news, our entertainment and so on. A one stop internet shop if you will, and we were fine with it.  The internet didn't end at AOL, but 99% of the stuff you cared about what there.

    Worst case scenario we go back to that. Or maybe we are already there? Whens the last time you spent time on the internet without using Google? (or Chrome?), or Facebook?  Without Net Neutrality we will likely be steered in the direction that will make us the most lucrative product for these internet companies.  The cost will not be transferred to us, we will just be blinded to go to the places that make them the most money just for having us there.....

    ....I think....
    Kansas City, Kansas
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 10,766
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    Will this affect , ahem, adult browsing
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • tenpenny_05
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    lkapigian said:
    Will this affect , ahem, adult browsing
    There is waaaay, waaaaaaaaaaay, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much money in porn for it to be affected. You're good.
    Kansas City, Kansas
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  • Gulfcoastguy
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    Google just wants to take over more.
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  • HeavyG
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    gdenby said:
    FWIW,

    I've got a base level service. $20/mo for 2 Gb. on cellular. Unlimited via land line for $34, but 2 Gb  takes at least 8 min and up to 15, assuming it doesn't fail mid way. (Before retirement, my desktop was 1 Gb/sec) Via cellular, only about 3 min for the same, but there goes the whole month.

    I can go to Walgreens, Office Depot, etc, buy a 32 Gb SSD drive for maybe $12, and use priority US mail for $6+ to transfer the data overnite.

    So kiddees, back to snail mail. Quite secure, and the media will be useful many times.  Not good for "Gotta have it now!" but if you want to get a Tb of data, say the whole of your families memorabilia, to a loved one, way cheaper than the glorious 'net.




    Reminds me of the old saying "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with backup tapes". :)
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • lkapigian
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    Gulfcoastguy said:
    Google just wants to take over more.
    That is good, i have a Boatload of Google Stock
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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