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OT: Do you still read a newspaper?
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NPHuskerFL said:This thread took a political turn for the worse. Who could've predicted this would happen here
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@pgprescott I'm not opposed to healthy banter. I primarily get my news online simply because I'm not home long enough to sit down and read a paper copy of the newspaper. That and the Florida Times-Union suck. When I lived in Nebraska I read the Omaha World-Herald and The Denver Post. Clearly that was long before handhelds and cell phones were being used for online news.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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i did see a good article in the nh hawkeye a few years ago about an ice fishing derby. guy was standing there holding a freshly caught perch. the reporter wrote in the article that he was holding up a trouser trout too easy to goof on journalists nowadays
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pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
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DMW said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress. -
fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime. -
pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
pgprescott said:HeavyG said:pgprescott said:HeavyG said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:StillH2OEgger said:pgprescott said:@JustineCaseyFeldown fair points about Oreilly.
If you think today's press is doing a good job or even trying to do so, I wholeheartedly disagree. They are mostly left wing activists. By definition they should not be journalists.
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As for academia, what is the basis for your assertion that a large swath of it is corrupt?
Almost all all of them think similarly to you. Even you must admit at least half the people don't think as you do. Why do all the professors have to lean one way? Free speech! Oh, except for Condoleezza Rice and others. Right? The marketplace of ideas is closed in many universities and students are called vile names if they speak out. You know it's true. It's pathetic and a driver of mediocrity.
As to your second paragraph, it doesn't really answer my question. What do you mean by "corrupt" ? What evidence is there to support your claim? All I see in your response is opinion.
All professors don't have to lean one way. We don't ask what political party people belong to when they apply to positions. In fact, during any interview I've ever been involved with, I can't recall a single instance in which politics even came up. We mostly talk about science and engineering, because that's what my colleagues actually care the most about believe it or not.
One of the main people involved with Trump's campaign was a Duke student who routinely wrote opinion pieces in the student newspaper. I don't recall him ever being shouted down or ostracized, even though I suspect many people on campus disagreed with his views.
When I've raised this issue with faculty in liberal arts their response is that they tend to take the opposite position to the students during lecture, regardless of what it is. The reason is simple. They are trying to develop the students' critical thinking skills, and providing some kind of echo chamber doesn't do that. In fact, it does just the opposite.
Where did you go to school by the way? I'm just asking because your perception is quite a bit different from any other place I'm familiar with, but I admit that different campuses have different cultures.
He was also, a member of the Duke Conservative Union. Wait..what? A top tier university has a conservative student organization. That can't be right can it?
Here's a fun site where you can go plug in the name of a university and get a sense of how (by one metric) they rank on the liberal vs. conservative spectrum:
https://www.crowdpac.com/games/lookup/universities
I have no idea whether post-secondary education is, in general, an indoctrination/training ground for left wing radicals and neither do you. All you know is what you have read or heard from whatever media outlets you choose to believe. And I'm guessing that since you stated earlier in regards to media bias: quote - " I'm telling you ALL the other outlets are as bad or worse in the opposite direction." - unquote (meaning left wing bias) you must be getting all your info from the one true unbiased source of info. I'd love to know what that is so I can start reading it.
Perceptions of media bias have been changing in the last few decades. Fifty or sixty years ago most people thought that most newspapers were fair. Nowadays, most people think the media is biased. What changed? Has the media, en masse, swung to one side of the spectrum or is it just that as people have become more polarized in their views their perceptions are likewise skewed? Beats me.
As far as the bozos of the alt-right, if you're going to blame the media for making them famous I would say that also applies to Trump's success. The "yuge" amount of free publicity he received as compared to the other GOP candidates certainly worked to his advantage - as Trump himself has admitted. So there you go - the liberal media created the Trump presidency. Kinda ironical ain't it?
The media is totally in the tank for the left. They are in fact an activist group. If you wish to deny it, that's fine. Informed people are waking up to the level of bias and deception, but many sheep still remain. The media definitely aided Trump in primary because they incorrectly assumed they were ultimately helping Clinton. This was also terribly improper on their part, but it is their motives and intentions which are so offensive. People have to ask why something is done not just that it was done. I can assure you the media didn't elevate Trump in order to help him become president. It was to defeat opponents that thought were a much greater threat to another liberal President. Plain to see.
That's funny. Reminds me of all the right wing crying about "activist judges".
What is an "activist judge"? That is a judge that decides a case in a way they don't like.
I think the media gave so much attention to Trump because freak shows mean ratings which translates into money. Which is, after all, the most important thing.
Seriously, I'm still interested in knowing where you consume your news and opinions. Which publications or broadcasts meet with your approval? I'm always on the hunt for unbiased outlets.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime.
1. Type in "racists"
2. Scan the results for your handle.
3. Read the posts and the context.
4. Brood. -
I stopped reading the local rag when they did a series of articles on the parents of murderers and how they deserve sympathy for being separated from their child. Boo freaking hoo. I save my sympathy for their victims.Flint, Michigan
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pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime.
1. Type in "racists"
2. Scan the results for your handle.
3. Read the posts and the context.
4. Brood.
Allow me to be perfectly clear: I don't think everyone who supported Trump is a racist. If I gave that impression in the past, then I'm sorry for it.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime.
1. Type in "racists"
2. Scan the results for your handle.
3. Read the posts and the context.
4. Brood.
Allow me to be perfectly clear: I don't think everyone who supported Trump is a racist. If I gave that impression in the past, then I'm sorry for it. -
pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime.
1. Type in "racists"
2. Scan the results for your handle.
3. Read the posts and the context.
4. Brood.
Allow me to be perfectly clear: I don't think everyone who supported Trump is a racist. If I gave that impression in the past, then I'm sorry for it.fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
JohnInCarolina said:fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress. -
pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
At least you're not pretending to argue that Carson is well-suited for the position, so I guess that's progress.
I do think that *some* of the criticism Obama has received has a racial component to it, sure. Not necessarily anything I've seen here, just in general. Emphasis on *some*. But that's something very different from what you're claiming.
My "hidden guilt." You really don't think a whole lot of me, do you Pete? We really should get a beer sometime.
1. Type in "racists"
2. Scan the results for your handle.
3. Read the posts and the context.
4. Brood.
Allow me to be perfectly clear: I don't think everyone who supported Trump is a racist. If I gave that impression in the past, then I'm sorry for it.
Now, can we please return to discussing Ben Carson's amazing qualifications for HUD Secretary"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
SloppyJoe said:I haven't heard about that. I hope we would all expect to see people appointed who have experience, good judgment, and integrity, regardless of which party they're from."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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@JohnInCarolina I'm done beating up on you. I am sure you don't mean to insult millions of people.
As far as Carson, I don't know and don't care. There is a huge bureaucratic apparatus in place and we need people who are smart and great decision makers. Even then, I'm not sure the impact an individual can have. I'm quite sure he will be fine. Again, we have Ben Rhodes negotiating with Iran. How can it possibly get worse? -
pgprescott said:
As far as Carson, I don't know and don't care. There is a huge bureaucratic apparatus in place and we need people who are smart and great decision makers. Even then, I'm not sure the impact an individual can have. I'm quite sure he will be fine. Again, we have Ben Rhodes negotiating with Iran. How can it possibly get worse?
OTOH I am encouraged by the Mattis appointment to SecDef. Sigh of relief there."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:pgprescott said:
As far as Carson, I don't know and don't care. There is a huge bureaucratic apparatus in place and we need people who are smart and great decision makers. Even then, I'm not sure the impact an individual can have. I'm quite sure he will be fine. Again, we have Ben Rhodes negotiating with Iran. How can it possibly get worse?
OTOH I am encouraged by the Mattis appointment to SecDef. Sigh of relief there.
The Carson selection really is puzzling and the DeVos selection is very discouraging but it is what it is.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
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