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Quietest Friday night in years!

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  • SkinnyV
    SkinnyV Posts: 3,404
    edited October 2015
    I'll say it..."both" sides suck and are corrupt. We are all pawns in this joke. Live, laugh, love and enjoy while you can. That said...give me Donald, worth a shot at the least.
    Seattle, WA
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    I'll agree with that @SkinnyV except I think Trump is only good for the campaign, he would probably be a disaster as pres.

    RNC, DNC and who we put in Congress is the real problem.  We have allowed a system to evolve where we have far lower expectations for our elected officials than for the waiter at our local Applebee's.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    Legume said:
    I think Trump is only good for the campaign, he would probably be a disaster
    Honest question my friend. Do you see any way under the sun that he could possibly be as big of a disaster as what we have in office now? Heck, at least Trump is an American.

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    Honestly, I think Trump would be successful in uniting people against him.  He's a bully CEO, a bratty kid that is successful when his is the only voice.  He would probably be great in a political system where most or all of the power was consolidated in one position - he would be a great dictator.

    He would most certainly piss off lots of people - some of that brashness may be refreshing, but most would probably be damaging and not help in the long run.  It would be great if we could elect him to a one year term just to get a quick reset - scare politicians back into governing as their goal and not politics as their goal.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,894
    Sorry I missed this last night in the fog of Friday. In the cold light of day about all I will offer is ABC...Anybody But Clinton.  She is a true snake and cannot be trusted.  Who wants to save the Dems from themselves?  Jim Webb was the best choice but he's gone.  Could be a long-suffering campaign.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    SGH said:
    Legume said:
    I think Trump is only good for the campaign, he would probably be a disaster
    Honest question my friend. Do you see any way under the sun that he could possibly be as big of a disaster as what we have in office now? Heck, at least Trump is an American.
    Ok...you're saying something as asinine as that just to keep this thread rolling all day today aren't you? :)

    Trolling level = ADVANCED 
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • logchief
    logchief Posts: 1,431
    One disaster doesn't deserve another and right now the two in the forefront on both sides are disasters waiting to happen.  

    @Legume you're right on, politicians need to get back to governing and do their jobs.

    My rant for the month, now back to having fun
    LBGE - I like the hot stuff.  The big dry San Joaquin Valley, Clovis, CA 
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    Man, I quit too early. Oh well, I'm still hungover, so I must've had a good night. 
  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    HeavyG said:
    Ok...you're saying something as asinine as that just to keep this thread rolling all day today aren't you? :)

    Trolling level = ADVANCED 
    No sir, that's not the case at all my friend. I say it because I honestly despise them. All of them.  

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,261
    What was the quote from Will Rogers?
    If my memory allows, "I find it strange you are not allowed to buy alcohol on Election Day, because those elected drive you to drink every day afterwards."
    He also said "if elections were really all that important, they wouldn't let you vote."
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • mahenryak
    mahenryak Posts: 1,324
    Things have calmed down and I certainly don't wish to stir them up.  If you're curious about conservative principles, or viewpoints on many of today's world issues, here are a series of five minute videos that are aimed at framing some of the key issues from a conservative's perspective.  The site was developed to provide the 'other side's' viewpoint, under the premise that this viewpoint is now largely under represented in public schools and universities.  You can disagree or agree, that is not the point.  It just represents an alternative viewpoint to the mainstream information that is out there.

    https://www.prageru.com/courses



    LG BGE, KJ Jr, Smokin Bros. Premier 36 and Pizza Party Bollore



  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    @mahenryak
    I knows it's not really any of my business, but I'm going to take a shot in the dark and ask anyway. Are you a member or a contributor by chance? 

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

  • mahenryak
    mahenryak Posts: 1,324
    SGH said:
    @mahenryak
    I knows it's not really any of my business, but I'm going to take a shot in the dark and ask anyway. Are you a member or a contributor by chance? 
    @SGH I don't mind answering this question in the least bit.  I am neither a member nor a contributor to the site that I mentioned above. 
    LG BGE, KJ Jr, Smokin Bros. Premier 36 and Pizza Party Bollore



  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    mahenryak said:
    Things have calmed down and I certainly don't wish to stir them up.  If you're curious about conservative principles, or viewpoints on many of today's world issues, here are a series of five minute videos that are aimed at framing some of the key issues from a conservative's perspective.  The site was developed to provide the 'other side's' viewpoint, under the premise that this viewpoint is now largely under represented in public schools and universities.  You can disagree or agree, that is not the point.  It just represents an alternative viewpoint to the mainstream information that is out there.

    https://www.prageru.com/courses



    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • mahenryak
    mahenryak Posts: 1,324
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    Sorry, I cannot let this one pass by without comment.  I feel like I'd be letting a friend down if I did.  Here are some characteristics of Dennis Prager that I have observed over the years.  He is slow to anger and does not participate in name calling.  He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, and will make a point of correcting any errors he does happen to make.  He strives for clarity and truth first--and states as much on his show.   He has wisdom on a wide variety of topics.  He continually proves willing to debate any and all that will have him.  He is also a very courteous, respectful host when he engages someone that disagrees with him. Yes, if you Google his name you are sure to find pundits who will disagree with him, some in a not so gracious manner.  This just comes with the territory.  By the way, most of the videos on the site do not feature him. 

    LG BGE, KJ Jr, Smokin Bros. Premier 36 and Pizza Party Bollore



  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • mahenryak
    mahenryak Posts: 1,324
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    LG BGE, KJ Jr, Smokin Bros. Premier 36 and Pizza Party Bollore



  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    Prager appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show earlier this year to promote his  book, "The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code,". It was during that interview that he claimed Southern California's lack of water was due to the state violating the commandment against worshiping false gods. 

    He was claiming that California is worshiping the false god Nature because so much water is taken from humans and used to save some small fish. Apparently the historic lack of rainfall (aka drought) is of no relevance at all to California's water woes. You can track down the recording of that show if you want to hear it for yourself.

    He's certainly entitled to his opinions and his claim that same sex marriages are a grave threat to America is just that, an opinion.  I guess the factual statement is that he did in fact make that claim on tv some years ago. Again, you can track down the 
    video of that.

    Calling Prager a neocon and chickenhawk is not "name calling". It is labeling. He is, in fact, a neoconservative. He is, in fact, a chickenhawk.

    If I wanted to engage in "name calling" I would have called him a "stupid old boogerhead". But I would never do that because that's not how I roll.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    This isn't Friday, but...  naked chicks here
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    Prager appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show earlier this year to promote his  book, "The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code,". It was during that interview that he claimed Southern California's lack of water was due to the state violating the commandment against worshiping false gods. 

    He was claiming that California is worshiping the false god Nature because so much water is taken from humans and used to save some small fish. Apparently the historic lack of rainfall (aka drought) is of no relevance at all to California's water woes. You can track down the recording of that show if you want to hear it for yourself.

    He's certainly entitled to his opinions and his claim that same sex marriages are a grave threat to America is just that, an opinion.  I guess the factual statement is that he did in fact make that claim on tv some years ago. Again, you can track down the 
    video of that.

    Calling Prager a neocon and chickenhawk is not "name calling". It is labeling. He is, in fact, a neoconservative. He is, in fact, a chickenhawk.

    If I wanted to engage in "name calling" I would have called him a "stupid old boogerhead". But I would never do that because that's not how I roll.
    I'm happy as hell people are fainting with emotion because of their religion(s).  If it makes you feel good, that's great.

    That said, if we want to be an inclusive nation and not follow in the footsteps of divisiveness and (just read the news) countries with extremists fighting or in control, lets just leave the mysticism out of it and govern, logically, to make things work.  Right?

    The pulpit is used for control, for power.  It should be for the greater good (insert Jesus quote about helping people here).
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Next up: Old people that yell at kids to "git da hell off my lawn" will chime in.  Go fur it, peeplz!
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Or young people that do that. I'm sorry about the previous discrimination.
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    PS - my care level:  10E-6
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    PS PS: For six sigma people, that means I'm an outlier.
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    PS PS PS: null, divide by zero, kiss my ({(i'm not resonating with humans) or (nerd)} and {(necrotizing fasciitis) or (fvcking with you)} or (this don't make no sense))

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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    PS PS PS PS:  Aint nobody got time for that.
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    Prager appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show earlier this year to promote his  book, "The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code,". It was during that interview that he claimed Southern California's lack of water was due to the state violating the commandment against worshiping false gods. 

    He was claiming that California is worshiping the false god Nature because so much water is taken from humans and used to save some small fish. Apparently the historic lack of rainfall (aka drought) is of no relevance at all to California's water woes. You can track down the recording of that show if you want to hear it for yourself.

    He's certainly entitled to his opinions and his claim that same sex marriages are a grave threat to America is just that, an opinion.  I guess the factual statement is that he did in fact make that claim on tv some years ago. Again, you can track down the 
    video of that.

    Calling Prager a neocon and chickenhawk is not "name calling". It is labeling. He is, in fact, a neoconservative. He is, in fact, a chickenhawk.

    If I wanted to engage in "name calling" I would have called him a "stupid old boogerhead". But I would never do that because that's not how I roll.
    I'm happy as hell people are fainting with emotion because of their religion(s).  If it makes you feel good, that's great.

    That said, if we want to be an inclusive nation and not follow in the footsteps of divisiveness and (just read the news) countries with extremists fighting or in control, lets just leave the mysticism out of it and govern, logically, to make things work.  Right?

    The pulpit is used for control, for power.  It should be for the greater good (insert Jesus quote about helping people here).
    Really, just wanted to quote a big block of text to make people feel the pain of reading people quoting big blocks of text (and pictures) where it's obvious you're responding to a post right above.  Peeplz, keep this in mind.  We are paying for bandwidth.

    (this is sorta the like the rage we feel when solicitors call our cell phones).

    Statement of this post.  There is none. 


    ______________________________________________
    I love lamp..
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    Prager appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show earlier this year to promote his  book, "The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code,". It was during that interview that he claimed Southern California's lack of water was due to the state violating the commandment against worshiping false gods. 

    He was claiming that California is worshiping the false god Nature because so much water is taken from humans and used to save some small fish. Apparently the historic lack of rainfall (aka drought) is of no relevance at all to California's water woes. You can track down the recording of that show if you want to hear it for yourself.

    He's certainly entitled to his opinions and his claim that same sex marriages are a grave threat to America is just that, an opinion.  I guess the factual statement is that he did in fact make that claim on tv some years ago. Again, you can track down the 
    video of that.

    Calling Prager a neocon and chickenhawk is not "name calling". It is labeling. He is, in fact, a neoconservative. He is, in fact, a chickenhawk.

    If I wanted to engage in "name calling" I would have called him a "stupid old boogerhead". But I would never do that because that's not how I roll.
    I'm happy as hell people are fainting with emotion because of their religion(s).  If it makes you feel good, that's great.

    That said, if we want to be an inclusive nation and not follow in the footsteps of divisiveness and (just read the news) countries with extremists fighting or in control, lets just leave the mysticism out of it and govern, logically, to make things work.  Right?

    The pulpit is used for control, for power.  It should be for the greater good (insert Jesus quote about helping people here).
    Really, just wanted to quote a big block of text to make people feel the pain of reading people quoting big blocks of text (and pictures) where it's obvious you're responding to a post right above.  Peeplz, keep this in mind.  We are paying for bandwidth.

    (this is sorta the like the rage we feel when solicitors call our cell phones).

    Statement of this post.  There is none. 


    But see the above post.
    ______________________________________________
    I love lamp..
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    Prager appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show earlier this year to promote his  book, "The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code,". It was during that interview that he claimed Southern California's lack of water was due to the state violating the commandment against worshiping false gods. 

    He was claiming that California is worshiping the false god Nature because so much water is taken from humans and used to save some small fish. Apparently the historic lack of rainfall (aka drought) is of no relevance at all to California's water woes. You can track down the recording of that show if you want to hear it for yourself.

    He's certainly entitled to his opinions and his claim that same sex marriages are a grave threat to America is just that, an opinion.  I guess the factual statement is that he did in fact make that claim on tv some years ago. Again, you can track down the 
    video of that.

    Calling Prager a neocon and chickenhawk is not "name calling". It is labeling. He is, in fact, a neoconservative. He is, in fact, a chickenhawk.

    If I wanted to engage in "name calling" I would have called him a "stupid old boogerhead". But I would never do that because that's not how I roll.
    I'm happy as hell people are fainting with emotion because of their religion(s).  If it makes you feel good, that's great.

    That said, if we want to be an inclusive nation and not follow in the footsteps of divisiveness and (just read the news) countries with extremists fighting or in control, lets just leave the mysticism out of it and govern, logically, to make things work.  Right?

    The pulpit is used for control, for power.  It should be for the greater good (insert Jesus quote about helping people here).
    Really, just wanted to quote a big block of text to make people feel the pain of reading people quoting big blocks of text (and pictures) where it's obvious you're responding to a post right above.  Peeplz, keep this in mind.  We are paying for bandwidth.

    (this is sorta the like the rage we feel when solicitors call our cell phones).

    Statement of this post.  There is none. 


    But see the above post.
    And you may understand, but probably not, because people don't read things that aren't bullet points.  (in my professional experience).
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:
    mahenryak said:
    HeavyG said:

    ...
    PragerU = Dennis Prager.

    That tells me all I really need to know.
    ... He is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find, ... 

    So when he claimed earlier this year that the drought in California was caused by the worship of a false god (in this case he claims the "false god" is Nature) he was being factually correct???

    His opposition to same sex marriages, which he has said is one of the greatest threats to America, is funny coming from a man that preaches morality and family values seeing that he is on his third marriage.

    I get it, you're a fan of the man.

    I'm not. He's just another name on the list of neocon chickenhawks.

    To each his own.
    Not exactly primary sources you are providing, here.  He is often taken out of context, and flat out misquoted. I will stand by the fact that he is one of the most factually correct individuals you will find.  Of course he has opinions.  Having an opinion does not mean you are absent of facts.  Yes, to each his own.  I notice that you are not opposed to name calling, though.  Interesting.
    Prager appeared on Glenn Beck's radio show earlier this year to promote his  book, "The Ten Commandments: Still the Best Moral Code,". It was during that interview that he claimed Southern California's lack of water was due to the state violating the commandment against worshiping false gods. 

    He was claiming that California is worshiping the false god Nature because so much water is taken from humans and used to save some small fish. Apparently the historic lack of rainfall (aka drought) is of no relevance at all to California's water woes. You can track down the recording of that show if you want to hear it for yourself.

    He's certainly entitled to his opinions and his claim that same sex marriages are a grave threat to America is just that, an opinion.  I guess the factual statement is that he did in fact make that claim on tv some years ago. Again, you can track down the 
    video of that.

    Calling Prager a neocon and chickenhawk is not "name calling". It is labeling. He is, in fact, a neoconservative. He is, in fact, a chickenhawk.

    If I wanted to engage in "name calling" I would have called him a "stupid old boogerhead". But I would never do that because that's not how I roll.
    I'm happy as hell people are fainting with emotion because of their religion(s).  If it makes you feel good, that's great.

    That said, if we want to be an inclusive nation and not follow in the footsteps of divisiveness and (just read the news) countries with extremists fighting or in control, lets just leave the mysticism out of it and govern, logically, to make things work.  Right?

    The pulpit is used for control, for power.  It should be for the greater good (insert Jesus quote about helping people here).
    Really, just wanted to quote a big block of text to make people feel the pain of reading people quoting big blocks of text (and pictures) where it's obvious you're responding to a post right above.  Peeplz, keep this in mind.  We are paying for bandwidth.

    (this is sorta the like the rage we feel when solicitors call our cell phones).

    Statement of this post.  There is none. 


    But see the above post.
    And you may understand, but probably not, because people don't read things that aren't bullet points.  (in my professional experience).
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