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Why spatchcock?

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  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    Canugghead ....What in the world did you do to that poor little cheekin ??????

    That's pretty cool !!!!!!!

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,727
    Donnie, I turned it into a leaping frog.  It's interestingly different, also, if for whatever reason the breast is cooking too fast it's easy to separate it from the lower body, then reassembled at the table for presentation!
    canuckland
  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    I like it !!!!  Very unique....a 1st for me !!!

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    I just like to tell people that you're eating something with **** in the name. Even though they're girl birds most of the time. Oh, and they taste good.
    ______________________________________________
    I love lamp..
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    When I tell people it was cooked spatchCOCK, they're like, whaaaaaa?!
    ______________________________________________
    I love lamp..
  • bodski
    bodski Posts: 463
    Did my first spatchcock turkey this year. 15 pounder on a large finished in 2 hours. It was done perfectly and even. Probably won't do a turkey on the Egg any other way. Although, the backbone removal was more difficult than on a chicken.

    Cincinnati

    LBGE, Weber Kettle

  • THEBuckeye
    THEBuckeye Posts: 4,232
    Used Swamp Venom for my Spatchcock last night. 

    HIGHLY recommended. 

    Liberal coat, dried in fridge.

    350 Raised Direct 
    New Albany, Ohio 

  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,727
    I just like to tell people that you're eating something with **** in the name. Even though they're girl birds most of the time. Oh, and they taste good.
    That's why I said butterflied turkey should be called spatchtom turkey, no?
    canuckland
  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    bodski...did you use kitchen shears ??  To me, they work much better/ less effort than using a knife to remove backbone.

    I've also been using them for prepping wings...tipping and separating...works very good, I think.

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • bodski
    bodski Posts: 463
    edited December 2014
    dldawes1 said:
    bodski...did you use kitchen shears ??  To me, they work much better/ less effort than using a knife to remove backbone.

    I've also been using them for prepping wings...tipping and separating...works very good, I think.
    @dldawes1, I started out with shears, but the bone was just too much; ended up with a knife. I use shears on chickens and hens with no problem. I probably don't have a good set of shears, although they'll slice a penny :)

    Cincinnati

    LBGE, Weber Kettle

  • Zmokin
    Zmokin Posts: 1,938
    edited December 2014
    occasionally I like to try a variation of spatchcock just to mix things up, although it's not that common/popular here ...

    image

    image


    Your "Froggy" version looks like a much easier cut.  I presume you just cut between the upper and lower rib cages instead of trying to cut through the back bone.  And heck if you cut it all the way in two, you could rotate the bottom half and probably make a more compact version with the tips of the drumsticks tucked up under the wings.  I might have to give that a try.
    Large BGE in a Sole' Gourmet Table
    Using the Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter,
     and a BBQ Guru temp controller.

    Medium BGE in custom modified off-road nest.
    Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter, and a Party-Q temp controller.

    Location: somewhere West of the Mason-Dixon Line
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,727
    @Zmokin, indeed, a couple of easy cuts under the rib cage, then flip out the breast. I'm trying to visualise your 'compact version', you mean move the breast behind the butt, then interlock the wings with the drumsticks?
    canuckland
  • Zmokin
    Zmokin Posts: 1,938
    @Zmokin, indeed, a couple of easy cuts under the rib cage, then flip out the breast. I'm trying to visualise your 'compact version', you mean move the breast behind the butt, then interlock the wings with the drumsticks?
    yes, with it completely cut in two froggy style,rotate the bottom 1/2 180 degrees and  tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.  Part of the back may sit up on the tail-end of the breast.
    Large BGE in a Sole' Gourmet Table
    Using the Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter,
     and a BBQ Guru temp controller.

    Medium BGE in custom modified off-road nest.
    Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter, and a Party-Q temp controller.

    Location: somewhere West of the Mason-Dixon Line
  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    And when there is turmoil in the forum, all you have to to is post a spatchcock with @Mickey‌ Coffee Rub and everything is OK
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    lkapigian said:
    And when there is turmoil in the forum, all you have to to is post a spatchcock with @Mickey‌ Coffee Rub and everything is OK
    You mean...like this ????


    image

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • Zmokin
    Zmokin Posts: 1,938
    Zmokin said:
    @Zmokin, indeed, a couple of easy cuts under the rib cage, then flip out the breast. I'm trying to visualise your 'compact version', you mean move the breast behind the butt, then interlock the wings with the drumsticks?
    yes, with it completely cut in two froggy style,rotate the bottom 1/2 180 degrees and  tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.  Part of the back may sit up on the tail-end of the breast.
    What am I saying?!  Re-looking at the picture, rotating 180 is completely wrong.

    As your froggy style is displayed.  If fully disconnected, the leg half just needs to leap frog the breast per se, then tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.
    Large BGE in a Sole' Gourmet Table
    Using the Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter,
     and a BBQ Guru temp controller.

    Medium BGE in custom modified off-road nest.
    Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter, and a Party-Q temp controller.

    Location: somewhere West of the Mason-Dixon Line
  • stemc33
    stemc33 Posts: 3,567
    bodski said:
    dldawes1 said:
    bodski...did you use kitchen shears ??  To me, they work much better/ less effort than using a knife to remove backbone.

    I've also been using them for prepping wings...tipping and separating...works very good, I think.
    @dldawes1, I started out with shears, but the bone was just too much; ended up with a knife. I use shears on chickens and hens with no problem. I probably don't have a good set of shears, although they'll slice a penny :)


    @bodski‌, I did the exact same thing. I use Wüsthof shears, but it was very difficult to cut through the backbone. A knife worked better with the turkey.
    Steven
    Mini Max with Woo stone combo, LBGE, iGrill 2, Plate Setter, 
    two cotton pot holders to handle PS
    Banner, Wyoming
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,727
    Zmokin said:
    Zmokin said:
    @Zmokin, indeed, a couple of easy cuts under the rib cage, then flip out the breast. I'm trying to visualise your 'compact version', you mean move the breast behind the butt, then interlock the wings with the drumsticks?
    yes, with it completely cut in two froggy style,rotate the bottom 1/2 180 degrees and  tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.  Part of the back may sit up on the tail-end of the breast.
    What am I saying?!  Re-looking at the picture, rotating 180 is completely wrong.

    As your froggy style is displayed.  If fully disconnected, the leg half just needs to leap frog the breast per se, then tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.
    can't wait to see your picture!
    canuckland
  • Dobie
    Dobie Posts: 3,458
    Diid a small one last night at 425 indirect, best skin yet.
    Jacksonville FL
  • Zmokin
    Zmokin Posts: 1,938
    Zmokin said:
    Zmokin said:
    @Zmokin, indeed, a couple of easy cuts under the rib cage, then flip out the breast. I'm trying to visualise your 'compact version', you mean move the breast behind the butt, then interlock the wings with the drumsticks?
    yes, with it completely cut in two froggy style,rotate the bottom 1/2 180 degrees and  tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.  Part of the back may sit up on the tail-end of the breast.
    What am I saying?!  Re-looking at the picture, rotating 180 is completely wrong.

    As your froggy style is displayed.  If fully disconnected, the leg half just needs to leap frog the breast per se, then tuck the ends of the drumsticks under the wings.
    can't wait to see your picture!
    Not sure when I will be able to take a picture, but taking a little photoshopping liberty with your raw bird, I mean something like this.
    image
    Large BGE in a Sole' Gourmet Table
    Using the Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter,
     and a BBQ Guru temp controller.

    Medium BGE in custom modified off-road nest.
    Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter, and a Party-Q temp controller.

    Location: somewhere West of the Mason-Dixon Line
  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    dldawes1 said:
    lkapigian said:
    And when there is turmoil in the forum, all you have to to is post a spatchcock with @Mickey‌ Coffee Rub and everything is OK
    You mean...like this ????


    image

    Beauty
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
  • Terrebandit
    Terrebandit Posts: 1,750
    For a turkey, I like the look of a bird cooked by the traditional method. The spatch Turk is ugly as heck. Lol
    Dave - Austin, TX
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,727
    @Zmokin, looks kind of disjointed though?  Can you try this please ... take my original, rotate the lower body 180 degrees and stick the butt into the neck cavity  :D
    canuckland
  • All the above is correct but I'm gonna go against the grain and prepare for a forum flogging and say that I haven't spatched my last 8-10 chickens. I am either goin inverted on the stand or my favorite as of late and cooking a splayed chicken with root veggies in a hot CI skillet
    But not stuffed, right? We all know that to get the stuffing/dressing to a safe temp (160ºF) the breasts are cardboard and the thighs are maybe OK. The best approach is inverted, and for those of us doing one or two at a time, spatched. 
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
  • Mattman3969
    Mattman3969 Posts: 10,458
    @skiddymarker - only thing stuffed in the cavity is fresh herbs and some form of fruit blocking each end. I really like the flavor that tangerines impart.

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    analyze adapt overcome

    2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827

    ... only thing stuffed in the cavity is fresh herbs and some form of fruit blocking each end. ...
    @Mattman3969 ... why "blocking" each end.

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • Mattman3969
    Mattman3969 Posts: 10,458
    My theory is that it forces the flavor of the herbs into the meat and not out of the open ends. Plus you get flavor from the fruit

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    analyze adapt overcome

    2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    Understand your flavor thought process.  I would think it's an advantage to allow the heat into the interior of the bird ... thus, it'd cook more evenly through the thickness of the breast.

    If you heat from the outside only, then the skin temp is high (to drive the heat into the breast bone) and the meat next to the breast bone is the lowest.  If you heat from both the outside and the inside, then the skin and the bone are relatively even and the low temp is in the middle of the breast meat.  Thus, the skin temp doesn't have to get as high to push interior temp to your target.


    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • Mattman3969
    Mattman3969 Posts: 10,458
    Good thoughts. Never thought about it like that. The CI method cooks in about an hour and is juicy as all get out. I may skip the plugs next time to see if there is any difference and report back.

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    analyze adapt overcome

    2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
  • @Mattman3969 - I'm in the same camp as @Jeepster47 Keep the airspace in the cavity open to circulate "cooking" air. I do put some citrus and herbs inside as it is always a nice touch, must try tangerines, usual is an old orange found rolling around in the fruit bin. That being said, I'll give plugging both ends a try, always up for something different. 
    Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!