Pizza Ovens

Campbell2N

I know the BGE makes good pizza (that I’ve seen a lot here) but SWMBO gave me the go ahead to get an Ooni. Tell me your pros/cons and tips/tricks if you got them.

JohnInCarolina

pros: the fuel is dirt cheap.  Now you’re cooking with gas.
cons: high temp pizza cooking is more challenging, and you’ll probably need to make your own dough 

tips: buy a copy of Ken Forkish’s book titled “The Elements of Pizza”
tricks: those are for kids 

unoriginalusername

It’s not as much of an upgrade as you might think. Yes it’s better…. But I would only get one if you’re interested in either pizza all the time, or am having a wood fired oven as there are lots of things it’s nice having a different heat signature to work with 

ColbyLang

I’ve got the Karu 16. Multi fuel. Watch your dome temps cooking pizzas. She runs hot. Awesome as a wood burning oven for steaks, roasting veggies etc. I use mine 3-4 times a month at most. Gotta have a dedicated spot for it as well

GrateEggspectations

Don’t know where you’re located, as I can’t see that here, but @canugghead recently flagged a screaming deal in the GWN that may be with considering. 

https://www.londondrugs.com/geek-chef-gas-outdoor-pizza-oven---64-x-41-x-19.7cm/L1991691.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=productfeed&utm_campaign=surfaces

Campbell2N

Thank you for the replies!  

I do have a spot for it. Been debating the multi fuel vs propane only model, not sure if the multi fuel option is worth it so please provide additional insight. Pizza dough and sauce is somewhat of a speciality of mine that I greatly enjoy making.

cmac610

I can’t comment on the Ooni, but I do have a dual-fuel Gozney Dome. Love the ability to hit the propane when I’m “lazy” or wood when I want to. I’ve also done a lot more than pizza on it…steaks, shellfish, etc. I love it!

ColtsFan

Campbell2N said:

Thank you for the replies!  

I do have a spot for it. Been debating the multi fuel vs propane only model, not sure if the multi fuel option is worth it so please provide additional insight. Pizza dough and sauce is somewhat of a speciality of mine that I greatly enjoy making.

That said, these ovens run very hot. I find my dough does best around 68% hydration. 

JohnInCarolina

I have yet to hear a good argument for the multi fuel.  My own pizza oven has it, but I only ever use gas.

Consider the typical use: cooking pizza at 900F.  The pizza cooks in 90 seconds.  That’s just not enough time for it to pick up much of any flavor from wood smoke.  Gas is just a lot more easy to control, and you don’t need to keep feeding it.  

womaus

Okay....I'm not trying to shill something here.
For pizza, on a grill I recommend a https://www.kettlepizza.com/
I acquired one a year ago off of Craigslist. The one with the steel slab.
Yes...it takes a Weber 22" kettle, and charcoal. Preferably lump.
High temps. Easy reload of fuel.
Gas does not get to the temps. I've tried it. Lump, hardwood chunks does the job.

ColbyLang

Campbell2N said:

Thank you for the replies!  

I do have a spot for it. Been debating the multi fuel vs propane only model, not sure if the multi fuel option is worth it so please provide additional insight. Pizza dough and sauce is somewhat of a speciality of mine that I greatly enjoy making.

Multi fuel gives you the option to run lump charcoal, pellets or splits of wood. Lots of possibilities for cooking fuels

HeavyG

Some folks may like to go camping or a picnic and not want to have to also lug around a propane tank. The ability to gather up some sticks instead might be of use to some folks. Or, some folks are just pyromaniacs and like to play with "real" fire.

Ybabpmuts

My sister Beulah used to vault over the campfire using an old sheileileigh as leverage. One particular time she was really slow going over and halfway across her pants started smoking and she went down yelling something like "fire in the bush, fire in a the bush" but she landed in beach sand, there were no bushes around. When this is all over and her pufffalump heals  she's going to see a botanist for sure. 

Ozzie_Isaac

I love my wood fired.oven.  Pizzas are only about 1/3 of what I cook in it.

danhoo

JohnInCarolina said:

pros: the fuel is dirt cheap.  Now you’re cooking with gas.
cons: high temp pizza cooking is more challenging, and you’ll probably need to make your own dough 

tips: buy a copy of Ken Forkish’s book titled “The Elements of Pizza”
tricks: those are for kids 

This is the way. 

danhoo

Campbell2N said:

Thank you for the replies!  

I do have a spot for it. Been debating the multi fuel vs propane only model, not sure if the multi fuel option is worth it so please provide additional insight. Pizza dough and sauce is somewhat of a speciality of mine that I greatly enjoy making.

I have a karu 12. I use propane in the winter, wood when the weather is nicer to attend to the fire. 

JohnInCarolina

HeavyG said:

Some folks may like to go camping or a picnic and not want to have to also lug around a propane tank. The ability to gather up some sticks instead might be of use to some folks. Or, some folks are just pyromaniacs and like to play with "real" fire.

Well fair enough I suppose, although the ovens themselves aren’t exactly something you want to strap on your back.  But there are also adapters to allow you to use smaller propane tanks like those Coleman ones people often bring camping.  I’ve never tried to use mine with one of those so I don’t know how well they work, but in principle I think you can still cook with gas in a truly “portable” way.

hondabbq

Nothing better than the Blackstone option.  I have the OG model and its still going strong. 

cookingdude555

JohnInCarolina said:

I have yet to hear a good argument for the multi fuel.  My own pizza oven has it, but I only ever use gas.

Consider the typical use: cooking pizza at 900F.  The pizza cooks in 90 seconds.  That’s just not enough time for it to pick up much of any flavor from wood smoke.  Gas is just a lot more easy to control, and you don’t need to keep feeding it.  

I am not sure you will consider this a good argument or not, but I use dual fuel on my gozney every time I use it.  I set the dome at the lowest temp, add a log, and I don't touch it again.  Cooking temp is perfect when the log is engulfed.  The lowest temp using gas is ~350, adding the log pushes it to around 750-800 which is perfect for my pizzas.  I cook about 8 pizzas this way before the log goes out.  I can bump the gas up or down to regulate heat.  cooking with wood only does make it harder if you want to cook below 900 for a consistent period of time.  Few pics I have demonstrating it here 

JohnInCarolina

cookingdude555 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

I have yet to hear a good argument for the multi fuel.  My own pizza oven has it, but I only ever use gas.

Consider the typical use: cooking pizza at 900F.  The pizza cooks in 90 seconds.  That’s just not enough time for it to pick up much of any flavor from wood smoke.  Gas is just a lot more easy to control, and you don’t need to keep feeding it.  

I am not sure you will consider this a good argument or not, but I use dual fuel on my gozney every time I use it.  I set the dome at the lowest temp, add a log, and I don't touch it again.  Cooking temp is perfect when the log is engulfed.  The lowest temp using gas is ~350, adding the log pushes it to around 750-800 which is perfect for my pizzas.  I cook about 8 pizzas this way before the log goes out.  I can bump the gas up or down to regulate heat.  cooking with wood only does make it harder if you want to cook below 900 for a consistent period of time.  Few pics I have demonstrating it here 

What you describe makes perfect sense to me, because you have a Gozney Dome.  I really couldn’t do something analogous on the Roccbox, which is much smaller.

Ozzie_Isaac

hondabbq said:

Nothing better than the Blackstone option.  I have the OG model and its still going strong. 

I would say the Gozney is potentially a better option or something from the Alfa Moderno line.  If you don't need gas/dual fuel you have a lot more options.

cookingdude555

JohnInCarolina said:

cookingdude555 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

I have yet to hear a good argument for the multi fuel.  My own pizza oven has it, but I only ever use gas.

Consider the typical use: cooking pizza at 900F.  The pizza cooks in 90 seconds.  That’s just not enough time for it to pick up much of any flavor from wood smoke.  Gas is just a lot more easy to control, and you don’t need to keep feeding it.  

I am not sure you will consider this a good argument or not, but I use dual fuel on my gozney every time I use it.  I set the dome at the lowest temp, add a log, and I don't touch it again.  Cooking temp is perfect when the log is engulfed.  The lowest temp using gas is ~350, adding the log pushes it to around 750-800 which is perfect for my pizzas.  I cook about 8 pizzas this way before the log goes out.  I can bump the gas up or down to regulate heat.  cooking with wood only does make it harder if you want to cook below 900 for a consistent period of time.  Few pics I have demonstrating it here 

What you describe makes perfect sense to me, because you have a Gozney Dome.  I really couldn’t do something analogous on the Roccbox, which is much smaller.

Yep not sure it’s possible on anything else. 

Ozzie_Isaac

cookingdude555 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

cookingdude555 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

I have yet to hear a good argument for the multi fuel.  My own pizza oven has it, but I only ever use gas.

Consider the typical use: cooking pizza at 900F.  The pizza cooks in 90 seconds.  That’s just not enough time for it to pick up much of any flavor from wood smoke.  Gas is just a lot more easy to control, and you don’t need to keep feeding it.  

I am not sure you will consider this a good argument or not, but I use dual fuel on my gozney every time I use it.  I set the dome at the lowest temp, add a log, and I don't touch it again.  Cooking temp is perfect when the log is engulfed.  The lowest temp using gas is ~350, adding the log pushes it to around 750-800 which is perfect for my pizzas.  I cook about 8 pizzas this way before the log goes out.  I can bump the gas up or down to regulate heat.  cooking with wood only does make it harder if you want to cook below 900 for a consistent period of time.  Few pics I have demonstrating it here 

What you describe makes perfect sense to me, because you have a Gozney Dome.  I really couldn’t do something analogous on the Roccbox, which is much smaller.

Yep not sure it’s possible on anything else. 

Cook bite sized pieces.

Ybabpmuts

My sister Beulah.had a Gozney Dome. I think my poppa put it there because she wore really tight pants and looking her up and down all the time hurt his neck like you read about. I don't think he knew he was hurting all of us who just wanted to look at one spot, like her crotch.

JohnInCarolina

Ybabpmuts said:

My sister Beulah.had a Gozney Dome. I think my poppa put it there because she wore really tight pants and looking her up and down all the time hurt his neck like you read about. I don't think he knew he was hurting all of us who just wanted to look at one spot, like her crotch.

By any chance is Beulah also your ex wife?  From the way you talk about them both I’m just starting to wonder.  

Ybabpmuts

Technically she's not my ex wife yet ... but I have no idea .. it just comes out of me and it is what it is. Is there some subliminal message.. I would say it's possible, just not sure.

Ybabpmuts

My wife has one chin, Beulah has two
Beulah has a third nipple and my wife has two nipples and something that can be called a chest warble at best.
Beulah head could fit through the outhouse hole we had to cut for her head sized doodie .
My wife's head is small and she won't go to the outhouse, but if she did she'd need a hole half the size of her head.

Ybabpmuts

Thems the differences 

JohnInCarolina

Ybabpmuts said:

My wife has one chin, Beulah has two
Beulah has a third nipple and my wife has two nipples and something that can be called a chest warble at best.
Beulah head could fit through the outhouse hole we had to cut for her head sized doodie .
My wife's head is small and she won't go to the outhouse, but if she did she'd need a hole half the size of her head.

seek therapy

Ybabpmuts

This is me on therapy, I have to just deal with it.

Ybabpmuts

Seriously, I go to a therapist every two weeks. We talk about all the stupid **** that's constantly going through my head, I snort ten fidget spinners and giver her $200