I will pay you to come fix my Egg

joey_price

Seriously, before I rage quit and throw it in the creek behind the house.

I CANNOT get this top to stay on. Every time I open it the lid falls out of the band.

I have even gone out and new bands (nothing wrong with the old ones) and still it falls apart on open.

I live in East Cobb, Marietta, GA. Text me
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Joe

JohnInCarolina

pics?

Ozzie_Isaac

Tighten the bands until the bolts are bending.  I have yet to hear of someone breaking a lid by overtighting it.

caliking

This ^^^. Something something... radial forces... something something.  

If that doesn't work, I would bail on the BGE bidness, and invest in another cooker. I say this seriously. No cooker is worth aggravation. 

joey_price

I can't get them any tighter without putting an extension on the wrench. Seriously, the 'ears' get pretty close to touching

joey_price

caliking said:

This ^^^. Something something... radial forces... something something.  

If that doesn't work, I would bail on the BGE bidness, and invest in another cooker. I say this seriously. No cooker is worth aggravation. 

I would, but I cooked on this thing for many years without this problem. When I took it apart to replace the gasket is when all this started. I can't figure it out, if I did it once, why can't I get it the second time?

Ozzie_Isaac

Tip2Tip

Whatever you do, under no circumstances whatsoever use your own computer to go onto Google and search for self-help videos on "how to tighten your own nuts".  Trust me on this one.  

Those nightmares won't ever seem to go away, never mind the ads.   

MaskedMarvel

JohnInCarolina said:

pics?

Agree - post pics of the bands from all four cardinal points (sides) front/back/left/right..  North/South.. you get the idea…

we’ll get it working for ya

RRP

MaskedMarvel said:

JohnInCarolina said:

pics?

we’ll get it working for ya

Or if not we will send the BGE Disposal Company which will remove it from your sight for ABSOLLUTELY FREE!!!   

joey_price

Tip2Tip said:

Whatever you do, under no circumstances whatsoever use your own computer to go onto Google and search for self-help videos on "how to tighten your own nuts".  Trust me on this one.  

Those nightmares won't ever seem to go away, never mind the ads.   

haha.

Those pics are what the bands look like when I'm finished tightening.

joey_price

OK, I put it back on and thought I was in the clear when I found one of the screws that attach the hinge to the band was broken. Replaced it, but same issue. This time it didn't fall TOTALLY out of the band, you can can see where the band slipped on the lid and the lid shifted enough to leave a big gap in the back. There is also a pic of how tight the band bolt was before I tried to open it.

Battleborn

joey_price said:

OK, I put it back on and thought I was in the clear when I found one of the screws that attach the hinge to the band was broken. Replaced it, but same issue. This time it didn't fall TOTALLY out of the band, you can can see where the band slipped on the lid and the lid shifted enough to leave a big gap in the back. There is also a pic of how tight the band bolt was before I tried to open it.

This must be an after picture, but make sure someone puts pressure on the top while you tighten and the bands can be tightened significantly more. 

joey_price

Battleborn said:

joey_price said:

OK, I put it back on and thought I was in the clear when I found one of the screws that attach the hinge to the band was broken. Replaced it, but same issue. This time it didn't fall TOTALLY out of the band, you can can see where the band slipped on the lid and the lid shifted enough to leave a big gap in the back. There is also a pic of how tight the band bolt was before I tried to open it.

This must be an after picture, but make sure someone puts pressure on the top while you tighten and the bands can be tightened significantly more. 

Yes, after. The bands are not moving when tightening, you mean downward pressure? FYI, the bottom band doesn't move at all through this process, its always the top that pops out when opening

shtgunal3

I honestly think you need to tighten them more. Here is what mine looks like.  

Buckwoody Egger

Holy smokes the top is barely in the the band. Loosen up and start over. 

Also is yours a large?  Something looks off about the hinge compared to this:

Almost like your bands are flipped around or upside down or something.  Not sure, yours does look like Ozzie’s pic after further review — but he may not the standard (kidding Oz). 

Battleborn

joey_price said:

Battleborn said:

joey_price said:

OK, I put it back on and thought I was in the clear when I found one of the screws that attach the hinge to the band was broken. Replaced it, but same issue. This time it didn't fall TOTALLY out of the band, you can can see where the band slipped on the lid and the lid shifted enough to leave a big gap in the back. There is also a pic of how tight the band bolt was before I tried to open it.

This must be an after picture, but make sure someone puts pressure on the top while you tighten and the bands can be tightened significantly more. 

Yes, after. The bands are not moving when tightening, you mean downward pressure? FYI, the bottom band doesn't move at all through this process, its always the top that pops out when opening

Yes, apply downward pressure to make sure the dome is fully seated. Also, if those are the same bolts from when you took it off, run down to the hardware store and get new bolts and nuts. 

loco_engr

^^^ plus I would move the top band all the way to the rim
HTH

joey_price

OK. Found another broken bolt - one of those that attaches the forward hinge support arm to the ring. Replaced that and finally listened to everybody - tightened the band until it was actually deflecting the wrench when I tried to advance it further. That seems to have done the trick.

Thanks everybody for the help and suggestions.

RRP

Battleborn said:

joey_price said:

Battleborn said:

joey_price said:

OK, I put it back on and thought I was in the clear when I found one of the screws that attach the hinge to the band was broken. Replaced it, but same issue. This time it didn't fall TOTALLY out of the band, you can can see where the band slipped on the lid and the lid shifted enough to leave a big gap in the back. There is also a pic of how tight the band bolt was before I tried to open it.

This must be an after picture, but make sure someone puts pressure on the top while you tighten and the bands can be tightened significantly more. 

Yes, after. The bands are not moving when tightening, you mean downward pressure? FYI, the bottom band doesn't move at all through this process, its always the top that pops out when opening

Yes, apply downward pressure to make sure the dome is fully seated. 

Recently when I installed new bands on my 23 year old Large my bands kept slipping right down and forcing my dome upward. This was my thread of my solution. You might find it of some help.
https://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1231672/adjusting-a-new-band-on-an-old-egg-my-solution

joey_price

Buckwoody Egger said:

Holy smokes the top is barely in the the band. Loosen up and start over. 

Also is yours a large?  Something looks off about the hinge compared to this:

Almost like your bands are flipped around or upside down or something.  Not sure, yours does look like Ozzie’s pic after further review — but he may not the standard (kidding Oz). 

Its an XL. Do you think the hinges are backwards?  I may jump off something tall if it was that all along

Buckwoody Egger

Let’s let an xl owner confirm you matched Ozzie’s pic

joey_price

Spoke too soon. Everything seemed to be fine, so I threw some veggies on there to grill. Opened and closed it a few times, the gap in back developed, and on the final attempts it popped right out.
I literally cannot get the band any tighter. I

stv8r

That top band should be snug against the upper ridge. Still too much space there imho. 

ColtsFan

How old is it? XLs had a tapering issue a few years back and the bands wouldn’t stay put. They kept sliding off. It was a defect in the ceramic mold. Mine being one of the defective units. 

I would ask the dealer to talk with their distributor about it. 

GrateEggspectations

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Tighten the bands until the bolts are bending.  I have yet to hear of someone breaking a lid by overtighting it.

I overtightened on one of my MiniMaxes and it caused some chipping under the band at the front due to the pressure. You don’t see it at all with the band on, but it taught me that the ceramic has its limits. 

HeavyG

ColtsFan said:

How old is it? XLs had a tapering issue a few years back and the bands wouldn’t stay put. They kept sliding off. It was a defect in the ceramic mold. Mine being one of the defective units. 

I would ask the dealer to talk with their distributor about it. 

It looks to me like his dome has some tapering in the band flange area. It could be a trick of the light but...


there appears to be a shadow line which I take to be a ridge and on the very left where there is some chipping it appears to be where the band slipped along that ridge. I don't know if that is a normal thing for an XL (if it actually is a tapering point and not just a trick of the light).

Photo Egg

Tomorrow, go to a quality hardware store and buy 2 new sets of high strength nuts and bolts and start over. Bend the tabs back on band a little so the square bolt anti twist will fit more flush.
Tighten nut with a deep socket and put a crescent wrench on the band tab holding the band on the bolt head side to stop the band from twisting too much when tightening.
Crank it down very tight. Yet to see a post with cracked dome due to tightening too tight.
‘Your threads might be worn enough on bolt and nut that they are actually jumping threads.

caliking

What's weird is that you didn't have this issue until you took it apart. @Photo Egg may be on to something about the bolts... yours look different from the ones generally in the wild. Did you happen to replace them when you installed the gasket?

joey_price

caliking said:

What's weird is that you didn't have this issue until you took it apart. @Photo Egg may be on to something about the bolts... yours look different from the ones generally in the wild. Did you happen to replace them when you installed the gasket?

They are the bolts that came with the new bands. I bought some new ones thinking they must have bent or gotten mis-shapen from heat over the years. There was nothing wrong with them on inspection, but I am working with the new ones anyway.

The dome is newer than the egg. It was replaced under warranty a few years ago. Maybe 5.

joey_price

Well, this is interesting. If you look back at my first post you will see my phone number. I posted it because I was serious, I would have paid somebody to come fix it. BGE reads these forums and today I got a call from them asking about my problem. They confirmed what ColtsFan and HeavyG said about the mis-shapen domes from a few years back and are going to replace it under warranty. I'm on my own with the uncessessary 2nd set of bands though. Pretty great of them to reach out to me unsolicited to help solve the problem. 
I'd also like to thank everybody here that took time on a Mother's Day Sunday to offer help and suggestions. Very much appreciated. I guess we will find out some timehis week if it's the dome or the EggHead.

Thanks again, 
Joe