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OT: Gas Stoves And Indoor Air Pollution

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,767
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    the camp is pretty air tight, turn the clothes dryer on and the smoke alarm goes off from smoke from the woodstove. 20 below outside and the windows open up to vent the smoke.
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 25,897
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I removed all the weather stripping from my doors and windows.  Now I can use my stove with impunity.
    IAQ has gotten far worse at the expense of "Weatherization", I have a leaky old house and I'll keep it that way 
    My uncle has an incredibly airtight house in Northern Wisconsin.  He has the most complex AC system I have ever seen.  He has to pull in a lot of fresh air to keep good IAQ.  He pulls it in, conditions it, then pumps it into the house.  He utilizes some of the return air in heat exchangers then exhausts the return air outside.  He has a huge room dedicated to all the equipment.
    Sounds like yet another engineer in the family mix, huh?
    Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,107
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    RRP said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I removed all the weather stripping from my doors and windows.  Now I can use my stove with impunity.
    IAQ has gotten far worse at the expense of "Weatherization", I have a leaky old house and I'll keep it that way 
    My uncle has an incredibly airtight house in Northern Wisconsin.  He has the most complex AC system I have ever seen.  He has to pull in a lot of fresh air to keep good IAQ.  He pulls it in, conditions it, then pumps it into the house.  He utilizes some of the return air in heat exchangers then exhausts the return air outside.  He has a huge room dedicated to all the equipment.
    Sounds like yet another engineer in the family mix, huh?
    He is a plumber by trade, and an HVAC hobbyist by choice.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 10,767
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I removed all the weather stripping from my doors and windows.  Now I can use my stove with impunity.
    IAQ has gotten far worse at the expense of "Weatherization", I have a leaky old house and I'll keep it that way 
    My uncle has an incredibly airtight house in Northern Wisconsin.  He has the most complex AC system I have ever seen.  He has to pull in a lot of fresh air to keep good IAQ.  He pulls it in, conditions it, then pumps it into the house.  He utilizes some of the return air in heat exchangers then exhausts the return air outside.  He has a huge room dedicated to all the equipment.
    Yes Sir, HRV/ERV , a must in that area, probably has an ERV 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,107
    edited March 2023
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    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I removed all the weather stripping from my doors and windows.  Now I can use my stove with impunity.
    IAQ has gotten far worse at the expense of "Weatherization", I have a leaky old house and I'll keep it that way 
    My uncle has an incredibly airtight house in Northern Wisconsin.  He has the most complex AC system I have ever seen.  He has to pull in a lot of fresh air to keep good IAQ.  He pulls it in, conditions it, then pumps it into the house.  He utilizes some of the return air in heat exchangers then exhausts the return air outside.  He has a huge room dedicated to all the equipment.
    Yes Sir, HRV/ERV , a must in that area, probably has an ERV 
    Not sure which one, I do no he has a massive dehumidifying/humidifying setup too.  Each room is independent, but routes back to his equipment room.

    His house is two stories, but all floors are concrete with radiant heating.  His main complaint is seasonal weather swings.  There is a lot of thermal inertia so during seasonal changes, especially winter to spring, it will just about bake you for a few days.
    They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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  • GrateEggspectations
    GrateEggspectations Posts: 9,296
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I removed all the weather stripping from my doors and windows.  Now I can use my stove with impunity.
    IAQ has gotten far worse at the expense of "Weatherization", I have a leaky old house and I'll keep it that way 
    My uncle has an incredibly airtight house in Northern Wisconsin.  He has the most complex AC system I have ever seen.  He has to pull in a lot of fresh air to keep good IAQ.  He pulls it in, conditions it, then pumps it into the house.  He utilizes some of the return air in heat exchangers then exhausts the return air outside.  He has a huge room dedicated to all the equipment.
    Imagining the multitude of other systems that probably reside in his house is giving me anxiety. 
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    lkapigian said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I removed all the weather stripping from my doors and windows.  Now I can use my stove with impunity.
    IAQ has gotten far worse at the expense of "Weatherization", I have a leaky old house and I'll keep it that way 
    My uncle has an incredibly airtight house in Northern Wisconsin.  He has the most complex AC system I have ever seen.  He has to pull in a lot of fresh air to keep good IAQ.  He pulls it in, conditions it, then pumps it into the house.  He utilizes some of the return air in heat exchangers then exhausts the return air outside.  He has a huge room dedicated to all the equipment.
    Energy recovery systems pay for themselves fast.
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    I love lamp..
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  • ksmyrl
    ksmyrl Posts: 1,050
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    We lived in an older "well ventilated" home for nearly 20 years. Now we are in a modern very tight and energy efficient home, hence the induction cooktop. Power bills are down 70%. And if/when IAQ becomes a concern...I open windows.
    Fish, Hunt, Cook....anything else?

    1LBGE, 1MMBGE, somewhere near Athens GA
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  • poster
    poster Posts: 1,172
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    HRV's are mandatory here in our building codes. I retro-fitted one into my house (built before the mandates) and it made of world of difference on my allergies, not to mention no more condensation on the windows, etc.
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,350
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    Interesting project a group from Stanford is doing.


    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 25,897
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    HeavyG said:


    Interesting project a group from Stanford is doing.


    Hmmm, I wonder if those “scientists” just lug their equipment in for kicks and giggles or if they expect to be fed, entertained, bathed and what ever else while and after doing their research.
    Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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  • KennyLee
    KennyLee Posts: 806
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    Gas stoves now.....except for the elite, of course.  But what when they come for our gas grills or *gasp* evil stick burning smokers, and even lump charcoal and our beloved Egg?   Lmao......it's coming.  And sooner than anyone thought.  

    LBGE

    Cedar table w/granite top

    Ceramic Grillworks two-tier swing rack

    Perpetual cooler of ice-cold beer

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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 25,897
    edited June 2023
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    KennyLee said:
    Gas stoves now.....except for the elite, of course.  But what when they come for our gas grills or *gasp* evil stick burning smokers, and even lump charcoal and our beloved Egg?   Lmao......it's coming.  And sooner than anyone thought.  
    Ah sh*t...there goes the financial basis of my estate...(BGEs, lump and even some well hidden chucks of wood)... =)


    Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    I agree, science is bad and we've never really benefitted from it anyway, just the elites.
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