Bo Jo No Mo

JohnInCarolina

https://www.cnn.com/uk/live-news/uk-boris-johnson-government-collapse-live-updates-intl-gbr/index.html

I'm not sure I ever anticipated Boris Johnson would actually resign on his own, but it seems things finally became untenable for him.

Take some consolation, @Eoin @CPFC1905 and @Stormbringer - at least he didn't go for the insurrection option.  I don't know what things look like for your country going forward, but I hope some kind of political sanity follows.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

He gone. 

Legume

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1545048168844312577?s=21&t=LN0fTddHKLarzNL7Gj7Lzw

crap, that doesn’t seem to want to paste correctly.

great irony.

JohnInCarolina

Legume said:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1545048168844312577?s=21&t=LN0fTddHKLarzNL7Gj7Lzw

crap, that doesn’t seem to want to paste correctly.

great irony.

http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1545048168844312577?s=20&t=4hE4Vy0x2ZiBTFdHzlY82g

lousubcap

^^^^

CPFC1905

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

He gone. 

Sort of.....

CPFC1905

Mr Wiff-Waff (a soubriquet earned by his calling table tennis 'wifi-waff') is an astonishing individual.

By the metric of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare - only once in a millennium will someone like him emerge, let alone seize power.

In the fullness of time a proper, forensic level, research piece will get to the absolute detail about how he did it.   No other living person can understand it with all the technology currently available.  For example, even he does not know how many children he has. 

On the other hand he is an outstanding example of  how to choose the best option for me on a minute by minute basis - each decision taken with absolutely no regard for the prior one.  

CPFC1905

JohnInCarolina said:

... I don't know what things look like for your country going forward, but I hope some kind of political sanity follows.

No chance. Ever. 

Gulfcoastguy

Ozzie_Isaac

He resigned, but isn't leaving.  He will finish his term.  UK political establishment is weird.  It's like self-impeachment, doesn't actually mean anything.

Ozzie_Isaac

To live in a time when Rob Ford, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump all held positions pf power.  Truly amazing times.

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

To live in a time when Rob Ford, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump all held positions pf power.  Truly amazing times.

amazing is one word for it

nolaegghead

I think it’s called “Idiocracy”

SamIAm2

@nolaegghead - I call them the best bargain a lobbyist can buy.

lousubcap

A foundational element is the focus on the dumbing down of actual voters.  Appeal to that sector and you gain an edge.  
I recall as a poll worker in the 2016 election and amazed at the number of first-time voters in their 30's-50's years of age.  The trend is not good as knowledge challenges the doctrine.  Gonna be quite a ride.  FWIW-

Botch

lousubcap said:

A foundational element is the focus on the dumbing down of actual voters.  Appeal to that sector and you gain an edge.  

 
Ayup.  

lousubcap

The challenge is to turn the tide and I don't see the way ahead as presently set up although the 1/6 hearings are quite insightful.  The dumb F base will not accept.   For me that is most concerning until that F' tard is gone.  Talk about cancer, we are living it.  Once (ASAP) he is off the radar it has to improve. He!!, it can't get any worse (one hopes).   
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. 

keener75

Ozzie_Isaac said:

To live in a time when Rob Ford, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump all held positions pf power.  Truly amazing times.

Don't forget Doug Ford (Rob's brother)!

The Cen-Tex Smoker

keener75 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

To live in a time when Rob Ford, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump all held positions pf power.  Truly amazing times.

Don't forget Doug Ford (Rob's brother)!

They both remind me of coked out Chris Farley if given the keys to NYC

Botch

lousubcap said:

The challenge is to turn the tide and I don't see the way ahead as presently set up although the 1/6 hearings are quite insightful.  The dumb F base will not accept.   For me that is most concerning until that F' tard is gone.  Talk about cancer, we are living it.  Once (ASAP) he is off the radar it has to improve. He!!, it can't get any worse (one hopes).   
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. 

Sadly, Cap'n, I can't agree with you on this one.  
The Highly Wealthy have been pushing for dumbing down the population, and establishing Faux as a "news" source, and especially since Citizen's United (the tax rates on the Highly Wealthy have gone from 95% during WWII, to 91% immediately after, to zero now; and if your lawyers are really good, you can get tax refunds on no taxes paid, like Boeing does.)
Trump was an anomoly.  A very USEFUL anomoly to the Highly Wealthy, who saw the ease of building up hatred against anyone not Exactly Like Us Old White Males, and capitalizing on that.  And it's worked.  Very well.  
I think the Highly Wealthy realize that trump isn't smart enough to laser in to their final goals, which is why desantis is gaining momentum.   
 
And, I've said it before: I'm glad I'm old, and have no kids.  I don't see us fixing this problem.  

JohnInCarolina

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

keener75 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

To live in a time when Rob Ford, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump all held positions pf power.  Truly amazing times.

Don't forget Doug Ford (Rob's brother)!

They both remind me of coked out Chris Farley if given the keys to NYC

Not to blow your mind, but Chris Farley once played… Andrew Giuliani.

JohnInCarolina

CPFC1905 said:

Mr Wiff-Waff (a soubriquet earned by his calling table tennis 'wifi-waff') is an astonishing individual.

By the metric of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare - only once in a millennium will someone like him emerge, let alone seize power.

In the fullness of time a proper, forensic level, research piece will get to the absolute detail about how he did it.   No other living person can understand it with all the technology currently available.  For example, even he does not know how many children he has. 

On the other hand he is an outstanding example of  how to choose the best option for me on a minute by minute basis - each decision taken with absolutely no regard for the prior one.  

http://twitter.com/RespectIsVital/status/1545093770013818884?s=20&t=JhwUQ5q6Bd5o0OaIFnWPWw

CPFC1905

Ozzie_Isaac said:

He resigned, but isn't leaving.  He will finish his term.  UK political establishment is weird.  It's like self-impeachment, doesn't actually mean anything.

We don't have fixed terms but instead a minimum and maximum period.  I'm sure there's a reason for that but perhaps it's better that world and local events dictate behaviour amongst the government rather than time,  which of course we all know doesn't really exist anyway.

We have found ourselves in a curious cycle of PM's reaching office via an internal mechanism within their party, not directly elected by the people.  
On 4th May 1979 Margret Thatcher won power via an orthodox General Election - she was usurped in 1990 and John Major assumed the reigns from within the party - without a GE (though did win in 1992). 
On 2nd May 1997 Tony Blair took power via GE - and that was the last time a PM was inducted via the public vote. 

I am far from an informed political historian, but what has been notable in recent times is the lack of compelling opposition.  A big part of BoJo's accession was his opportunism propelled by the knowledge that no parameters or coherent challenge - other than generational left/right red/blue bias, stood in his way.   He promised the kids chocolate for dinner while Mum was out the house, lo and behold - he's Number 1 parent.

If we weren't facing the biggest cost of living crisis in at least a generation this might all be amusing.

Ozzie_Isaac

CPFC1905 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

He resigned, but isn't leaving.  He will finish his term.  UK political establishment is weird.  It's like self-impeachment, doesn't actually mean anything.

We don't have fixed terms but instead a minimum and maximum period.  I'm sure there's a reason for that but perhaps it's better that world and local events dictate behaviour amongst the government rather than time,  which of course we all know doesn't really exist anyway.

We have found ourselves in a curious cycle of PM's reaching office via an internal mechanism within their party, not directly elected by the people.  
On 4th May 1979 Margret Thatcher won power via an orthodox General Election - she was usurped in 1990 and John Major assumed the reigns from within the party - without a GE (though did win in 1992). 
On 2nd May 1997 Tony Blair took power via GE - and that was the last time a PM was inducted via the public vote. 

I am far from an informed political historian, but what has been notable in recent times is the lack of compelling opposition.  A big part of BoJo's accession was his opportunism propelled by the knowledge that no parameters or coherent challenge - other than generational left/right red/blue bias, stood in his way.   He promised the kids chocolate for dinner while Mum was out the house, lo and behold - he's Number 1 parent.

If we weren't facing the biggest cost of living crisis in at least a generation this might all be amusing.

We find it amusing when 'Merica Sr. has problems too.  Shows we are just a chip off the ol'block.  Existential crisis' aside, is interesting to watch.  Basically learning that adults are just like kindergarteners still.

nolaegghead

CPFC1905 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

He resigned, but isn't leaving.  He will finish his term.  UK political establishment is weird.  It's like self-impeachment, doesn't actually mean anything.

We don't have fixed terms but instead a minimum and maximum period.  I'm sure there's a reason for that but perhaps it's better that world and local events dictate behaviour amongst the government rather than time,  which of course we all know doesn't really exist anyway.

We have found ourselves in a curious cycle of PM's reaching office via an internal mechanism within their party, not directly elected by the people.  
On 4th May 1979 Margret Thatcher won power via an orthodox General Election - she was usurped in 1990 and John Major assumed the reigns from within the party - without a GE (though did win in 1992). 
On 2nd May 1997 Tony Blair took power via GE - and that was the last time a PM was inducted via the public vote. 

I am far from an informed political historian, but what has been notable in recent times is the lack of compelling opposition.  A big part of BoJo's accession was his opportunism propelled by the knowledge that no parameters or coherent challenge - other than generational left/right red/blue bias, stood in his way.   He promised the kids chocolate for dinner while Mum was out the house, lo and behold - he's Number 1 parent.

If we weren't facing the biggest cost of living crisis in at least a generation this might all be amusing.

You guys have inflation issues!?  Damnit, BIDEN!!!

nolaegghead

JohnInCarolina said:

CPFC1905 said:

Mr Wiff-Waff (a soubriquet earned by his calling table tennis 'wifi-waff') is an astonishing individual.

By the metric of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare - only once in a millennium will someone like him emerge, let alone seize power.

In the fullness of time a proper, forensic level, research piece will get to the absolute detail about how he did it.   No other living person can understand it with all the technology currently available.  For example, even he does not know how many children he has. 

On the other hand he is an outstanding example of  how to choose the best option for me on a minute by minute basis - each decision taken with absolutely no regard for the prior one.  

http://twitter.com/RespectIsVital/status/1545093770013818884?s=20&t=JhwUQ5q6Bd5o0OaIFnWPWw

THAT’S AN INSULT TO WAX.

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

JohnInCarolina said:

CPFC1905 said:

Mr Wiff-Waff (a soubriquet earned by his calling table tennis 'wifi-waff') is an astonishing individual.

By the metric of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare - only once in a millennium will someone like him emerge, let alone seize power.

In the fullness of time a proper, forensic level, research piece will get to the absolute detail about how he did it.   No other living person can understand it with all the technology currently available.  For example, even he does not know how many children he has. 

On the other hand he is an outstanding example of  how to choose the best option for me on a minute by minute basis - each decision taken with absolutely no regard for the prior one.  

http://twitter.com/RespectIsVital/status/1545093770013818884?s=20&t=JhwUQ5q6Bd5o0OaIFnWPWw

THAT’S AN INSULT TO WAX.

I thought that was a Subway (the sandwich shop)

The Cen-Tex Smoker

"If we weren't facing the biggest cost of living crisis in at least a generation this might all be amusing".

And here I thought that inflation was a uniquely American political problem. Shocked, I tell you! Shocked! 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

nolaegghead said:

CPFC1905 said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

He resigned, but isn't leaving.  He will finish his term.  UK political establishment is weird.  It's like self-impeachment, doesn't actually mean anything.

We don't have fixed terms but instead a minimum and maximum period.  I'm sure there's a reason for that but perhaps it's better that world and local events dictate behaviour amongst the government rather than time,  which of course we all know doesn't really exist anyway.

We have found ourselves in a curious cycle of PM's reaching office via an internal mechanism within their party, not directly elected by the people.  
On 4th May 1979 Margret Thatcher won power via an orthodox General Election - she was usurped in 1990 and John Major assumed the reigns from within the party - without a GE (though did win in 1992). 
On 2nd May 1997 Tony Blair took power via GE - and that was the last time a PM was inducted via the public vote. 

I am far from an informed political historian, but what has been notable in recent times is the lack of compelling opposition.  A big part of BoJo's accession was his opportunism propelled by the knowledge that no parameters or coherent challenge - other than generational left/right red/blue bias, stood in his way.   He promised the kids chocolate for dinner while Mum was out the house, lo and behold - he's Number 1 parent.

If we weren't facing the biggest cost of living crisis in at least a generation this might all be amusing.

You guys have inflation issues!?  Damnit, BIDEN!!!

well crap- you beat me to it. 

CPFC1905

Nothing to say other than 'aaaaagh : make it end'  in a screaming in to the chasm kind of way.

Because BoJo's luck and available colleagues to throw under buses has run out we now have an endless parade of no-mark obscurities flooding across every media source promising jam forever when they become PM.   It's gone full 'I Claudius'

Seems Rishi remains the most probable victor at the moment, although quite often in these things the leading candidate falls at the last hurdle.  That's politics, I suppose?  

CPFC1905

Boris’ successor is the candidate with the least experience and credibility - but at least the party get to have a ‘special moment’ to themselves imagining they’ve got Maggie back. 

Good odds she’ll be hoisted by her own petard fairly soon but no likelihood of the Oppostion presenting any realistic opposition any time soon.