sleep study

fishlessman

well that was fun. in 9.5 hours i only woke up 203 times and supposedly that only registers as moderate apnea

dmchicago

Good luck. 

I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea over 10 years ago. 

My CPAP has been by my bedside since. 

I’ve not one time put it on without thinking how much I hate it. 

JohnInCarolina

dmchicago said:

Good luck. 

I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea over 10 years ago. 

My CPAP has been by my bedside since. 

I’ve not one time put it on without thinking how much I hate it. 

It's too bad they don't make a bidet that you wear on your face, for sleep.  

dmchicago

You need new writers. 

MasterC

Inspire sleep is a mask less option for apnea patients

Botch

MasterC said:

Inspire sleep is a mask less option for apnea patients

"With a touch of this button."
 
(those commercials are creepy)

MasterC

That they are Botch

ryantt

if you if you slept the entire 9.5 hrs your AHI would be 21.36 events per hour.  Most of the time your AHI needs to be 35 to be considered sever…but there are other factors like length of the respiratory events (long events with big drops in SPO2 low 70s) with low ahi is still severe.   

Now when it’s time for your PAP titration I would suggest an N30i mask.   It allows for free-ish movement compared to older styles… 

lousubcap

Great timing here.  I have been a dutifully CPAP mask wearer for the past 5 1/2 years after the 33 electrodes study.  Did I ever mention I did that rodeo twice in the space of  less than 3 weeks?
Last night while donning the mask (nose breather here so perhaps not as bad) I gave serious thought to the F it option.  Gotta be worse ways to go than checking out and moving on from life as we know it in your sleep.  A conversation I plan to have with a medical pro quite soon.  Should be fun!

fishlessman

MasterC said:

Inspire sleep is a mask less option for apnea patients

there was a radio announcer talking about this a week ago, says it forces his tongue out and wiggles it like he is creeping on a woman. said it starts sometimes without pushing the button while out in public. what could go wrong

fishlessman

lousubcap said:

Great timing here.  I have been a dutifully CPAP mask wearer for the past 5 1/2 years after the 33 electrodes study.  Did I ever mention I did that rodeo twice in the space of  less than 3 weeks?
Last night while donning the mask (nose breather here so perhaps not as bad) I gave serious thought to the F it option.  Gotta be worse ways to go than checking out and moving on from life as we know it in your sleep.  A conversation I plan to have with a medical pro quite soon.  Should be fun!

the night of the test i slept way better than normal.  they asked questions before letting me take the test. do you fall asleep during the day, NO.  do you have morning headaches, NO. do you fall asleep when you are a passenger in a car,  NO, only when driving. right now theres no way im driving after dark. the other side of the coin, getting up at 4 am to get on the boat, not getting on the boat til 7. i can see its going to suck, but im willing to see what happens after a few months on it. have always been an early morning person and i hate sleeping all morning

fishlessman

ryantt said:

if you if you slept the entire 9.5 hrs your AHI would be 21.36 events per hour.  Most of the time your AHI needs to be 35 to be considered sever…but there are other factors like length of the respiratory events (long events with big drops in SPO2 low 70s) with low ahi is still severe.   

Now when it’s time for your PAP titration I would suggest an N30i mask.   It allows for free-ish movement compared to older styles… 

will definitely ask about that mask and all the options

MasterC

I second the N30i mask. Mrs.C switched to it also.

Eoin

I used to wake up a lot with breathing issues, seemingly a restriction in my nose.  2 things have fixed this, with no need for any oxygen devices.  The first was getting a profiled pillow to provide support with the correct head angle. his seems to make a big difference to airway opening. The second was getting identified that airway restriction was due to a minor swelling, probably some background allergy. I use a low dose steroid inhaler from time to time when needed. Thinking about it as I type, I hardly need it these days, since the cat died ......

fishlessman

google says that playing a didgeridoo helps with apnea

https://youtu.be/yG9ZX1FS20A

nolaegghead

zzzzzzzz....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE1KFdA3p1o

nolaegghead

Getting a CPAP titration soon.  This sleep study stuff moves very slowly.

lousubcap

fishlessman said:

google says that playing a didgeridoo helps with apnea

https://youtu.be/yG9ZX1FS20A

Spent a year in Australia and own a didgeridoo made from eucalyptus and signed by the maker.  Took several lessons but never could master the circular breathing technique needed for the sustained air flow to take care of sleep apnea or produce the continuous tones.  May have to get back into it and work the latest street corner gig.  
Thanks for the above link.  

Botch

Wonder why no rap group have tried replacing a turntablist with a didgeridoo?  That could be interesting.  

Botch

lousubcap said:
...but never could master the circular breathing technique needed for the sustained air flow to take care of sleep apnea or produce the continuous tones. 

Was he using circular breathing?  I could distinctly hear him grabbing air via inhalation/gasping.  
 
For the non-musicians here: circular breathing is where you fill up your lungs with air, start playing thru your horn, and gradually expand you cheeks with more air.  When your lungs are empty, block your throat with your tongue, and immediately inhale thru your nose, while you squeeze your (facial) cheeks to continue to blow air thru your horn.  If you do it right, by the time your cheeks are tight, your lungs are full, you unblock your throat, start pushing lung air with your diaphragm, and repeat.  I could do it (on trombone) but like the Cap'n, couldn't master it (make it sound smooth).  
I was a big fan of The Crusaders thru college.  Their Greatest Hits included a live track of one of their biggest songs, where both the tenor and the trombone players hit a long note at the end of a chorus, and went into circular breathing.  The crowd eventually applauded, and then it died down.  They kept playing that one note.  The crowd went from happy to aghast, and applauded more.  Then even more (this was after about 2 minutes).  Applause died down some more, and then you can hear one guy way in the back of the club yell "STOP!!!"  The crowd erupts in laugher, and so do both horn players, and that interlude ends.  Huge standing ovation (yes, you can hear a standing ovation on vinyl).  
 
The other thing I noticed on both videos was that both artists would simultaneously sing thru their horns, while buzzing their lips. As you get closer and closer to both tones hitting the same pitch, an interference occurs between the two tones, which causes a tremolo (a variation in volume, rather than pitch; think, Waa waa waa wa wa wa wa wawawawa wa wa wa wa waa waa waa).  Heh, as Frank Zappa said, writing about music is like dancing about architecture.  This I could do, and in fact started a solo in an ISU jazz band concert that way (the director about fell over laughing). Have that on cassette somewhere.  

lousubcap

@Botch - had my instructor been as detailed I might of had a chance  .  Thanks for the post and the skills you mentioned with The Crusaders.  By chance do you recall the above mentioned song as I would like to check it out?  If not, I will move thru what I can find on line for that finish.    

Botch

That song is on my vinyl collection, in the basement.  I'll look tomorrow (and listen to it, all four sides).  Stand by.  

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

Getting a CPAP titration soon.  This sleep study stuff moves very slowly.

everything dr related has been slow, ive had referrals take more than three months for specialists to even enter it for an appointment.  then after they make the appointment getting the referral covered thru bluecross has been problematic. add in the privacy crap, every doctor i go to should have ALL my records....the system is extremely screwed up. this sleep thing though is crawling, first referral was first week december, sleep test late january, next visit to talk cpap is march 30. by that time i would have woken up 136,328 times plus minus.

the patients are getting cranky, one place i went to makes you sign a waiver that you wont yell at, or punch, or attack a dr or staff thats something ive never seen before

fishlessman

dr visit today, saw the full results from the home test that was months ago. apnea moderate at 203 events but oxygen levels are down around 83 percent at night. so now the 2 month or so wait for a machine...tic...tic...tic...tic...tic...

Kayak

ryantt said:

if you if you slept the entire 9.5 hrs your AHI would be 21.36 events per hour.  Most of the time your AHI needs to be 35 to be considered sever…but there are other factors like length of the respiratory events (long events with big drops in SPO2 low 70s) with low ahi is still severe.   

Now when it’s time for your PAP titration I would suggest an N30i mask.   It allows for free-ish movement compared to older styles… 

I want to say my number was over 200/hr, but it was a long time ago. I do remember not sleeping at all during the test, but them telling me I did. "Get all sleepy, then we'll stick these probes all over you!". I used to also enjoy rather exciting night terrors at the time, too. Good stuff.
Although telling me it wouldn't work, I lost a good bit of weight, and my apnea and terrors are a thing of the past. Occasionally it happens, but if it's three times a year it's a lot.

fishlessman

ryantt said:

if you if you slept the entire 9.5 hrs your AHI would be 21.36 events per hour.  Most of the time your AHI needs to be 35 to be considered sever…but there are other factors like length of the respiratory events (long events with big drops in SPO2 low 70s) with low ahi is still severe.   

Now when it’s time for your PAP titration I would suggest an N30i mask.   It allows for free-ish movement compared to older styles… 

i did pick out this style mask, i cant see the full mask working for me at all

ColtsFan

The problem I had with the N30i is that I would pinch off one side of the passage when sleeping on my side. I would wake myself up feeling like I was suffocating. I switched to the N30 which is as minimalist as they come and I couldn't be happier.

fishlessman

ColtsFan said:

The problem I had with the N30i is that I would pinch off one side of the passage when sleeping on my side. I would wake myself up feeling like I was suffocating. I switched to the N30 which is as minimalist as they come and I couldn't be happier.

if it doesnt work out they will change it. i roll over face down and that tube just looked like it would be bothersome to do that. full beard here, dont see a full mask working

HeavyG

fishlessman said:

ColtsFan said:

The problem I had with the N30i is that I would pinch off one side of the passage when sleeping on my side. I would wake myself up feeling like I was suffocating. I switched to the N30 which is as minimalist as they come and I couldn't be happier.

if it doesnt work out they will change it. i roll over face down and that tube just looked like it would be bothersome to do that. full beard here, dont see a full mask working

You may well go thru a few masks before you find one that meshes well with your sleep style, sleep position,  face shape, breathing habits (are you a mouth breather?  ), etc.

A problem I have with nasal masks is my mouth tends to blow open which would leave my mouth all dry and sticky like flypaper. I tried various chin straps to try to get my mouth to stay shut with limited success. Having a full beard most chin straps would end up just sliding off my face.

I'm currently using a ResMed AirFit™ F20 which is a full face mask and I have a beard and it works fine.

fishlessman

3 month waiting list starting today...............SNORE

nolaegghead

I have had mine for a couple weeks.  Takes a long time to get used to it.  4/5 times I'd wake up having torn it off my face in the middle of the night.  But I'm getting better.  Biggest risk is getting clobbered by your significant other for making fart-noises with it and waking them up. 

And now, for some didgeridoo playin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaBI1SqIhak