Knives

Dobie

It’s been a bit boring lately so why not. Got a full kitchen renovation going now so will upgrade some other stuff in the process. Thinking about a knife set, considering Wüsthof Classic Ikon set.  Can get a block set of 12 for $560ish. What else should I be looking that price point or there about?

bgebrent

We like our Wustohofs.  They require occasional sharpening but are great every day blades.  I second the Ikon set.  Otherwise I’d look at the Japanese knives.

DoubleEgger

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

NPHuskerFL

Global depending on what set you choose would be in that range.  They have good reviews with the culinary community depending on who you talk to.  
For me Chris I've got away from buying knife sets or "knife block deals".  Not that there's anything wrong with doing it. I have two knives in my radar. One is a sure thing as soon as they re-release it and the other I'm on the fence. 

Leopoldstoch

Very much of the mind set of getting a few great all purpose knives (chef/pairing) instead of a “set” of knives. Currently own whustof, and while happy looking to upgrading to some shun/Japanese knives as I have within a few years become subject to a few chips in my whustof knives.

Wolfpack

Think about what you use- I tend to use paring, 8” chef, and bread knife.  If it were me I would get these in good knives and avoid the ones that would go unused. 

U_tarded

Wolfpack said:

Think about what you use- I tend to use paring, 8” chef, and bread knife.  If it were me I would get these in good knives and avoid the ones that would go unused. 

This!  Piece build and try different ones out, sur la table and Williams Sonoma will let you demo knives.  Everyone’s hands are different and they all have different handles. 

Dobie

bgebrent said:

We like our Wustohofs.  They require occasional sharpening but are great every day blades.  I second the Ikon set.  Otherwise I’d look at the Japanese knives.

Probably would not make the jump to Japanese so this is a contender. 

DoubleEgger

Dobie said:

bgebrent said:

We like our Wustohofs.  They require occasional sharpening but are great every day blades.  I second the Ikon set.  Otherwise I’d look at the Japanese knives.

Probably would not make the jump to Japanese so this is a contender. 

Buy a single Japanese knife and you’ll be a believer. I have had my Wustof Classics for 17 years but the Japanese stuff is next level stuff. The difference is amazing. 

Dobie

DoubleEgger said:

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

Will look at piecing together some but not likely needing top of the line Asian

DoubleEgger

Dobie said:

DoubleEgger said:

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

Will look at piecing together some but not likely needing top of the line Asian

They’ll be a lot a sales around Black Friday if you can hold off. I’ve been able to pick up Shun for 40% off. Usually cheaper or equal in price to the Wustofs 

Dobie

 DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

DoubleEgger said:

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

Will look at piecing together some but not likely needing top of the line Asian

They’ll be a lot a sales around Black Friday if you can hold off. I’ve been able to pick up Shun for 40% off. Usually cheaper or equal in price to the Wustofs 

Can definitely hold off and check Black Friday deals. Just need to decide if I’m that level of user. My cheap sh!t now I just throw in the dishwasher 

DoubleEgger

Dobie said:

 DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

DoubleEgger said:

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

Will look at piecing together some but not likely needing top of the line Asian

They’ll be a lot a sales around Black Friday if you can hold off. I’ve been able to pick up Shun for 40% off. Usually cheaper or equal in price to the Wustofs 

Can definitely hold off and check Black Friday deals. Just need to decide if I’m that level of user. My cheap sh!t now I just throw in the dishwasher 

If you have a Williams Sonoma outlet store, they have 30-40% knives everyday. 

bgebrent

The Ikon set is sweet.  Or single handles.

tarheelmatt

You'll find that Shun Classic models are in the same price range as Wustof knives.  

I'll also agree with buying what you need not as a set.  

Dobie

DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

 DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

DoubleEgger said:

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

Will look at piecing together some but not likely needing top of the line Asian

They’ll be a lot a sales around Black Friday if you can hold off. I’ve been able to pick up Shun for 40% off. Usually cheaper or equal in price to the Wustofs 

Can definitely hold off and check Black Friday deals. Just need to decide if I’m that level of user. My cheap sh!t now I just throw in the dishwasher 

If you have a Williams Sonoma outlet store, they have 30-40% knives everyday. 

Nothing close but are they seconds or blems?

alaskanassasin

We have one right up the road everything looks brand new same with cookware it is generally %40 off 

DoubleEgger

Dobie said:

DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

 DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

DoubleEgger said:

Buy individual knives. I’d shy away from a set.  

You can pick up 4 Shuns for the $560 

Will look at piecing together some but not likely needing top of the line Asian

They’ll be a lot a sales around Black Friday if you can hold off. I’ve been able to pick up Shun for 40% off. Usually cheaper or equal in price to the Wustofs 

Can definitely hold off and check Black Friday deals. Just need to decide if I’m that level of user. My cheap sh!t now I just throw in the dishwasher 

If you have a Williams Sonoma outlet store, they have 30-40% knives everyday. 

Nothing close but are they seconds or blems?

No. Perfect condition. I think it’s overstock from their stores. The selection varies. 

FanOfFanboys

I am biased but go custom

you do not need a set. waste of money. two knives you'll use 99.9% of time and love is better than any 12 or 24 piece set

custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

for $550 you can get 2-4 customer knives, depending on materials, that'll smoke anything you buy from bed bath and beyond or williams and sonoma

if you want a contact for one of the best guys, imo, in the country, let me know. I have ordered 9 from him and have several more to go. some gifts, some kitchen, some outdoors. but he is one of the best for heat treat and handle comfort and edge retention 

alaskanassasin

FanOfFanboys said:

I am biased but go custom

you do not need a set. waste of money. two knives you'll use 99.9% of time and love is better than any 12 or 24 piece set

custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

for $550 you can get 2-4 customer knives, depending on materials, that'll smoke anything you buy from bed bath and beyond or williams and sonoma

if you want a contact for one of the best guys, imo, in the country, let me know. I have ordered 9 from him and have several more to go. some gifts, some kitchen, some outdoors. but he is one of the best for heat treat and handle comfort and edge retention 

Are they stainless?

HeavyG

FanOfFanboys said:

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custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

...

That's pretty funny.

mEGG_My_Day

I don’t know a lot about knives.  But if I was starting from scratch, I would buy the best I could in this order:

8 inch chef knife
boning knife
pairing knife
bread knife

fill in from there 

GoldenQ

I would not get sets.   I would either get custom or get the Dexter knives at a good kitchen store.  The dexter work well and can be replaced w/o much money if you decide to use a different knife until you know exactly which you will use most.  Also the custom US made knives are I believe better than the ASIAN knives or the German knives made commercially

1voyager

DoubleEgger said:

Dobie said:

bgebrent said:

We like our Wustohofs.  They require occasional sharpening but are great every day blades.  I second the Ikon set.  Otherwise I’d look at the Japanese knives.

Probably would not make the jump to Japanese so this is a contender. 

Buy a single Japanese knife and you’ll be a believer. I have had my Wustof Classics for 17 years but the Japanese stuff is next level stuff. The difference is amazing. 

You are so right.

We've had our Wusthof Grand Prix set for about 15 years. We thought they were the best knives ever but then a friend gave us a Shun Classic 8-inch chefs knife. Since then, we bought individual Shuns to fit our needs and rarely use the Wusthofs.

theyolksonyou

Don’t own this one, but looks like a good deal. 

https://m.surlatable.com/product/PRO-2403251/Miyabi+Kaizen+II+Chefs+Knife?productId=PRO-2403251&categoryId=TCA-257775&categoryIdClicked=cat440443&sc_src=email_545788&sc_lid=46229586&sc_uid=RMwlQZsJqz&sc_llid=87522&sc_eh=14caee40e9b3a4071&utm_campaign=180930+AM+Sales+Ending+Today+-+Med+Engage&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Batch+Promo+Email&utm_content=&segment=Medium+Engagement+%28Julia+9.15.18%29+-+3+Day+New+Subs&email=jowen1%40hotmail.com&par=545788_87522&_redirect=true

theyolksonyou

Wow that’s a long URL

FanOfFanboys

alaskanassasin said:

FanOfFanboys said:

I am biased but go custom

you do not need a set. waste of money. two knives you'll use 99.9% of time and love is better than any 12 or 24 piece set

custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

for $550 you can get 2-4 customer knives, depending on materials, that'll smoke anything you buy from bed bath and beyond or williams and sonoma

if you want a contact for one of the best guys, imo, in the country, let me know. I have ordered 9 from him and have several more to go. some gifts, some kitchen, some outdoors. but he is one of the best for heat treat and handle comfort and edge retention 

Are they stainless?

he has stainless and high carbon and damascus steels he works with 

https://www.instagram.com/bushkillblades/

that is his instagram

Bushkill Blades <bushkillorders@gmail.com>

That is the contact email to order something

https://instagram.com/p/BfEE0LljSpQ/embed/

that is one kitchen set he did

https://instagram.com/p/Be3VzhdjjjG/embed/

another

an assortment

FanOfFanboys

HeavyG said:

FanOfFanboys said:

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custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

...

That's pretty funny.

it is true

it is unreal what is available these days and there are countless knife makers in America alone that are making some of the best quality knives available. 

NorthPilot06

Another vote for Shun here

HeavyG

FanOfFanboys said:

HeavyG said:

FanOfFanboys said:

...

custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

...

That's pretty funny.

it is true

it is unreal what is available these days and there are countless knife makers in America alone that are making some of the best quality knives available. 

Well, that's quite a bit different than your original statement.

No doubt tho, there are plenty of talented knifemakers in the US these days.

FanOfFanboys

HeavyG said:

FanOfFanboys said:

HeavyG said:

FanOfFanboys said:

...

custom knife making in America alone is better than knife making has ever been in the history of the world

...

That's pretty funny.

it is true

it is unreal what is available these days and there are countless knife makers in America alone that are making some of the best quality knives available. 

Well, that's quite a bit different than your original statement.

No doubt tho, there are plenty of talented knifemakers in the US these days.

Let me be more clear then: The best custom knife makers right now in America are better than the knifemakers were worldwide in the past

As far as what year to define the "past" I don't have one but let's go pre-1900s or so