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Beef rib lessons

booksw
booksw Posts: 499
A few weeks ago on this forum I began to learn that there are many different types of beef ribs and I am happy to test out what I can get here in South Carolina.  @ColtsFan posted a cook he called "beef plate short ribs" and taught me to look for NAMP 123.  I instead smoked the short ribs I get at my local grocery store, Harris Teeter.  They are sold in a pack of 4-5 individual bones (middle pic below).  The NAMP 123 instead is a set of bones.  I haven't been able to find the NAMP 123 but I did ask a local cattle farmer about short ribs and he sold me a piece of meat that is a set of bones :) (top pic below) So, I have them both on my mini max right now- a side by side comparison of brisket-on-a-stick!  They are definitely from different parts of the cow- the bone cross sections are a different shape.
Johns Is, SC

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  • logchief
    logchief Posts: 1,426
    You're in for a treat with either one.  There are basically two types of short ribs, plate and chuck and come in 3 and 4 bones.  The packaged cut up ones come out pretty darn good, but the whole ones are more impressive.

    Enjoy and don't forget the pics.
    LBGE - I like the hot stuff.  The big dry San Joaquin Valley, Clovis, CA 
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,075
    Yeah, either way, you will be eatting better than 99.998% of the global population, if 10 million other people were also eating beef ribs.
    You got this.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,850
    As above, however if you want to go in a different beef rib direction try back ribs.  Yup, same name as their pork cousins but an order of magnitude better.
    Sometimes I have had a challenge with getting all the fat to render with the short ribs.
    Regardless, toothpick test for the win.  Enjoy the banquet.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • booksw
    booksw Posts: 499
    Of course they were delicious BUT the plate ribs (if that’s what they were) were also grass fed beef so the experiment was not really well controlled :). In my experience, grass fed tends to be dryer- or maybe I didn’t let them cook long enough- I’m not sure.  If I ever find beef back ribs, I will scoop them up
    Johns Is, SC

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  • Hntnhrd
    Hntnhrd Posts: 713
    edited August 2018
    Around my area back ribs have been cleaned pretty thin by the meat cutters . I like the thicker meat on  chuck ribs. 
  • booksw
    booksw Posts: 499
    6 years later and many beef rib cooks in my pocket- I am planning another cook this Sat for a crowd of 9 adults.  I am also going to do local SC shrimp on the grill.  I have a new butcher shop in my area, owned by two guys who are cousins- Ryan and Carl.  I went in there last week and asked Ryan about bone-in beef ribs and he said he was going to ask around- he wasn't sure if he could get them or not.  A couple of days later he called me and said No Dice.  So- I started making other plans.  I actually really like the chuck ribs I can get from my local grocery store- Harris Teeter (owned by Kroger).  I know my local store will hold some for me if I ask in advance (they tend to sell out)- although it is located in a tourist area (Kiawah Island) and will be swarmed with people now through September so I try to avoid going there. But, I walked into the butcher shop  two days ago and Carl came in from the back pretty excited to tell me he can get me short ribs.  I honestly have no idea what type of short ribs he is getting or how much- I told him 9 adults and that was it.  They will be delivered to the shop tomorrow.

    I think I will season them Friday night with my current favorite rub (made by Ryan and Carl) and maybe some worcestershire sauce and then smoke them with a mesquite chunk (mostly to get rid of it- I actually generally prefer something more mild but the beef ribs can hold up to the mesquite and I have had this bag for probably 10 years).  I 'll put them on when I get home from the farmers market around 10:30 AM and have a good 6-7 hour window which should be long enough to get them to the toothpick test.  Then foil towel and cooler until guests arrive while I prep the shrimp and change the set up for the hotter shrimp cook.

    Im excited to see what type of beef ribs I get, and how they do!!  No matter- they'll be just fine.
    Johns Is, SC

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  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,251
    I'm looking forward to the results! You're lucky to have a couple good butchers the way it sounds like.  
    "The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan

    Minnesota
  • dbCooper
    dbCooper Posts: 2,408
    Sounds just great.  Hoping you take pics of the results and post them.
    LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413G
    Great Plains, USA
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 5,702
    I'm guessing you will get individual ribs or  strips containing 4 or 5 ribs with the rib bones being one to two inches long. If so, you will enjoy more surface area for rub/smoke adhesion. You may need to watch that they don't dry out. Many short rib recipes call for a braise.  

    I look forward to the result!  Please post pics!
    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • booksw
    booksw Posts: 499
    Also- while they are on the smoker during the day tomorrow- I aim to spend time in the pool.  It doesnt get much better then the whaft of smoking meat- the perfect background for pool days.
    Johns Is, SC

    L/MiniMax Eggs
  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 5,702
    booksw said:
    Also- while they are on the smoker during the day tomorrow- I aim to spend time in the pool.  It doesnt get much better then the whaft of smoking meat- the perfect background for pool days.
    I agree....the smell is just the best.
    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
  • booksw said:
    Of course they were delicious BUT the plate ribs (if that’s what they were) were also grass fed beef so the experiment was not really well controlled :). In my experience, grass fed tends to be dryer- or maybe I didn’t let them cook long enough- I’m not sure.  If I ever find beef back ribs, I will scoop them up
    Wow, it does really look delicious!!
  • xavier233
    xavier233 Posts: 20
    booksw said:
    6 years later and many beef rib cooks in my pocket- I am planning another cook this Sat for a crowd of 9 adults.  I am also going to do local SC shrimp on the grill.  I have a new butcher shop in my area, owned by two guys who are cousins- Ryan and Carl.  I went in there last week and asked Ryan about bone-in beef ribs and he said he was going to ask around- he wasn't sure if he could get them or not.  A couple of days later he called me and said No Dice.  So- I started making other plans.  I actually really like the chuck ribs I can get from my local grocery store- Harris Teeter (owned by Kroger).  I know my local store will hold some for me if I ask in advance (they tend to sell out)- although it is located in a tourist area (Kiawah Island) and will be swarmed with people now through September so I try to avoid going there. But, I walked into the butcher shop  two days ago and Carl came in from the back pretty excited to tell me he can get me short ribs.  I honestly have no idea what type of short ribs he is getting or how much- I told him 9 adults and that was it.  They will be delivered to the shop tomorrow.

    I think I will season them Friday night with my current favorite rub (made by Ryan and Carl) and maybe some worcestershire sauce and then smoke them with a mesquite chunk (mostly to get rid of it- I actually generally prefer something more mild but the beef ribs can hold up to the mesquite and I have had this bag for probably 10 years).  I 'll put them on when I get home from the farmers market around 10:30 AM and have a good 6-7 hour window which should be long enough to get them to the toothpick test.  Then foil towel and cooler until guests arrive while I prep the shrimp and change the set up for the hotter shrimp cook.

    Im excited to see what type of beef ribs I get, and how they do!!  No matter- they'll be just fine.
    Love the excitement! Carl's surprise delivery has got me curious too! Fingers crossed it's a great cut. Your plan sounds solid, and I'm sure the mesquite will add a nice depth to the ribs. Can't wait to hear how they turn out and what type of short ribs you end up with. Good luck with the cook, and I hope your guests enjoy the shrimp and ribs combo!
  • booksw
    booksw Posts: 499
    @xavier233 Im sorry it took me so long to come back to this post.  On the day of the delivery I got a call from Ryan that my meat was not on the delivery truck- it was a no go.  I was able to score some chuck ribs at Harris Teeter and cook them the way I always do- they were delicious and the shrimp were too.  I am going to have to ask Carl and Ryan to give it another try...
    Johns Is, SC

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