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The Forum Layout is a Bit of a Mess, no?

SonVolt
SonVolt Posts: 3,316
edited May 2018 in Off Topic
I just got my egg and was looking forward to joining the forum and still plan to participate, but I gotta ask one thing... what's up with the hideous layout? It's a jumbled mess of text and it's hard to tell where each post starts and ends. It's all crammed together without an obvious visual delineation between posts.  And the forum content itself is like 600 pixels wide... this looks silly on widescreen monitors which are now ubiquitous.  Surely I'm not the only one that feels this way?  Any plans to update the look and feel? 
South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • TEXASBGE2018
    TEXASBGE2018 Posts: 3,831
    I agree but I doubt much will be done about it.


    Rockwall, Tx    LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.

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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    edited May 2018
    Are you using the full site from a mobile device?... If so go to the bottom of the page and go mobile
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
    Mobile works much better on a phone. Go figure. 

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

    2 Large
    Peachtree Corners, GA
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2018
    I'm using a desktop computer with typical wide screen monitors. If this forum was designed for an iPhone then it makes more sense... but surely not.  Lots of wasted space and everything is crammed together - icons, post text, signature by-lines etc - it's hard to pick out the post text from all the flair. 


    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    edited May 2018
    SonVolt said:
    I'm using a desktop computer with typical wide screen monitors. If this forum was designed for an iPhone then it makes more sense... but surely not. 


    Go to the bottom and click full site ,looks like you are using Mobile on your desk top
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2018
    I'm not seeing anything "at the bottom" that mentions changing between desktop or mobile views.  Besides, I'm assuming this forum wouldn't default users to the mobile view when using a desktop browser.... 

    https://i.imgur.com/4foKhG7.png




    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    I'm already on the "full site" view. It don't see "full site" (what you have in your screenshot) unless I view the site from my iPhone. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    I think the layout is fine. Clean and simple - not over-designed like so many other places.

    I do 99.9% of my viewing on my 27" iMac.

    If you maximize the window on a large monitor why would you want the comments to expand to fill the entire width of your monitor? The human eye/brain doesn't process text as efficiently when a line of text gets too long. There's a reason newspapers use columns rather than just printing a story the full width of a page.

    I have no problem distinguishing between posts in a thread due to the use of the footer at the bottom of every post and the use of the name/avatar at the beginning of subsequent posts.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    SonVolt said:
    I'm already on the "full site" view. It don't see "full site" (what you have in your screenshot) unless I view the site from my iPhone. 
    No idea then, it looks normal to me when I'm on my desktop, except the Lump Threads throw me off
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2018
    HeavyG said:
    I think the layout is fine. Clean and simple - not over-designed like so many other places.

    I do 99.9% of my viewing on my 27" iMac.

    If you maximize the window on a large monitor why would you want the comments to expand to fill the entire width of your monitor? The human eye/brain doesn't process text as efficiently when a line of text gets too long. There's a reason newspapers use columns rather than just printing a story the full width of a page.

    I have no problem distinguishing between posts in a thread due to the use of the footer at the bottom of every post and the use of the name/avatar at the beginning of subsequent posts.




    Clean and simple is exactly the opposite of how I would describe it.  To answer your question - yes - the content should span the full wide of usable screen real estate. This forum was obviously designed for old 1024x768 resolution so it looks a bit stilted now. 

    Take PizzaMaking.com as an example.... the forum spans the full width and uses alternate row coloring for proper delineation. Half the time here I'm reading someone's bolded signature thinking it's the body of their post. 

    https://i.imgur.com/0gKPACg.png
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    The Indian that designed the website, yes... 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • TEXASBGE2018
    TEXASBGE2018 Posts: 3,831
    Ya that's what you should do guys, make this person feel like crap for expressing their opinion. The website layout here looks like its from 2005. I don't know how to fix it myself because I'm not skilled in website design but I can tell you it doesn't look great. Now granted I dunno what it costs to run this site or to create a new one but if this is indeed operated by the mothership they should put some money into updating it to at least 2010.


    Rockwall, Tx    LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.

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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2018
    No feelings hurt here...  typically these forums are pretty "canned" systems using open source frameworks (free) and it's just a matter of picking a different theme behind the scenes and/or updating to a more modern theme. Unless the site is heavily customized on the back-end (which I doubt) it would be fairly trivial. 

    I design corporate websites and web applications so I may be more picky than most... either way, I'm not knocking this community, I still plan to post here. Just think the place is ugly AF. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2018
    northGAcock said:
    Probably not the best way to start out your career on this forum, criticizing the forum itself. I have been to better forums and have been to worse. I think if you stay here and contribute, generally those concerns will be replaced with  your excitement for "another lump thread" or "Why does @bgebrent post when it is clearly his wife doing all the work?" Ha welcome aboard.......on another note, can i interest you in a dog?



    I'm sure I'll enjoy this place... with that said, I have no interest in trying to appease members I don't even know yet by keeping my opinions about the aesthetics to myself.  Nice Beagle. 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    ^^^^^^This^^^^
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,171
    SonVolt said:
    northGAcock said:
    Probably not the best way to start out your career on this forum, criticizing the forum itself. I have been to better forums and have been to worse. I think if you stay here and contribute, generally those concerns will be replaced with  your excitement for "another lump thread" or "Why does @bgebrent post when it is clearly his wife doing all the work?" Ha welcome aboard.......on another note, can i interest you in a dog?



    I'm sure I'll enjoy this place... with that said, I have no interest in trying to appease members I don't even know yet by keeping my opinions about the aesthetics to myself.  Nice Beagle. 
    You are gonna fit right in. =)
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
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  • TEXASBGE2018
    TEXASBGE2018 Posts: 3,831

    I have am typing this on a 22.5 widescreen monitor as we speak and only about 40% of the screen has content. The rest is white. See example below. the OP is correct.



    Rockwall, Tx    LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.

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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,870
    I must be missing the issue as I generally am on a desktop and I can adjust the forum page to whatever dimensions I want and the size of the thread and post text print as well.  Perhaps there is an upside to being a luddite.  
    Better to be lucky than good any day.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    Just wait till I judge your hotdogs... 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    edited May 2018
    TEXASBGE2018 said:

    I have am typing this on a 22.5 widescreen monitor as we speak and only about 40% of the screen has content. The rest is white. See example below. the OP is correct.




    EGGzactly! (Am I fitting in yet guys... guys?)
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,510
    edited May 2018
    Nevermind.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
    edited May 2018
    SonVolt said:
    TEXASBGE2018 said:

    I have am typing this on a 22.5 widescreen monitor as we speak and only about 40% of the screen has content. The rest is white. See example below. the OP is correct.




    EGGzactly! (Am I fitting in yet guys... guys?)
    By building your post count with crap, then yes.  Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride on this crazy train, even if it is ugly.
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • TEXASBGE2018
    TEXASBGE2018 Posts: 3,831
    saluki2007 said:
    SonVolt said:
    TEXASBGE2018 said:

    I have am typing this on a 22.5 widescreen monitor as we speak and only about 40% of the screen has content. The rest is white. See example below. the OP is correct.




    EGGzactly! (Am I fitting in yet guys... guys?)
    By building your post count with crap, then yes.  Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride on this crazy train, even if it is ugly.

    Hey don't act like we all haven't done that.....


    Rockwall, Tx    LBGE, Minimax, 22" Blackstone, Pizza Party Bollore. Cast Iron Hoarder.

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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,119
    edited May 2018
    SonVolt said:
    TEXASBGE2018 said:

    I have am typing this on a 22.5 widescreen monitor as we speak and only about 40% of the screen has content. The rest is white. See example below. the OP is correct.




    EGGzactly! (Am I fitting in yet guys... guys?)
    Once you post your first lump thread, you are there........BTW Welcome, glad you didn't start this on Friday 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,833
    Just don't have your browser in fullscreen mode. It's intentional so you can keep the forum open in one browser window while you are browsing porn working on stuff on the rest of your screen.
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • SonVolt
    SonVolt Posts: 3,316
    Thanks for the welcome. What happens on Friday? The whiskey sippin' starts? 
    South of Nashville  -  BGE XL  -  Alfresco 42" ALXE  -  Alfresco Versa Burner  - Sunbeam Microwave 
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