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HELP! 17" BlackStone burner problem

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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,833
    Focker said:
    DMW said:
    Focker said:
    DMW said:
    Focker said:
    FWIW, WallyWorld has the best deal for the green tanks.

    No need for a hose here, kind of takes away from the stow and go anywhere beauty of it.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B0195MZHBK/RGVH4EIHHBLVO?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl
    Just because you have a hose doesn't mean you have to use it.
    Then why buy it in the first Fockin place?
    Hose for at home, little tanks for travel.
    That's what the 28 is for.  ;)
    Well yeah, my deck is full...
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Spam spam spam spam......
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Ace sells two 1 pounders for $6.99. Cheapest I've seen anywhere. I haven't had anything larger than a 1 lb cylinder in over 30 years.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,833
    Ace sells two 1 pounders for $6.99. Cheapest I've seen anywhere. I haven't had anything larger than a 1 lb cylinder in over 30 years.
    TWSS
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Avoid bungee cords if you enjoy vision.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    DMW said:
    Ace sells two 1 pounders for $6.99. Cheapest I've seen anywhere. I haven't had anything larger than a 1 lb cylinder in over 30 years.
    TWSS
    Sorry to hear that, man. =)

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,128
    DMW said:
    Ace sells two 1 pounders for $6.99. Cheapest I've seen anywhere. I haven't had anything larger than a 1 lb cylinder in over 30 years.
    TWSS
    Sorry to hear that, man. =)
    I had to google what TWSS meant and honestly I still have no clue how that apples to this thread...BUT if you guys want to tell me then I thank you in advance...I think anyway!  =)=)=)
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,128
    bgebrent said:
    Avoid bungee cords if you enjoy vision.
    Please give me/us a clue!  For 40+ years I have avoided those cheap/whimpy cloth covered bungee cords and instead used those VERY sturdy, black rubber ones with the heavy metal S hooks on each end. Want to post your PSA warning? Thank you! 
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    bgebrent said:
    Avoid bungee cords if you enjoy vision.
    Stop breathing, studys have shown, it causes cancer.
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    edited April 2017
    RRP said:
    bgebrent said:
    Avoid bungee cords if you enjoy vision.
    Please give me/us a clue!  For 40+ years I have avoided those cheap/whimpy cloth covered bungee cords and instead used those VERY sturdy, black rubber ones with the heavy metal S hooks on each end. Want to post your PSA warning? Thank you! 
    If you're tarpin down a load on a flatbed semi, then the rubber is good.

    Securing a piddly 17" griddle or Weber kettle lid for camping, those cloth ones are just fine.

    If we avoided products for user error, one would have to live it up like Jimmy Livingston, aka Bubble Boy.
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
    bgebrent said:
    Avoid bungee cords if you enjoy vision.
    My buddy lost 4 of his front teeth to a sprung bungee.  No bueno.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."

                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

    2 Large
    Peachtree Corners, GA
  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,891
    HeavyG said:
    I'm expecting @SGH to come along and say - "If I had Ron's money I'd use one of those little 1lb tanks for just one cook then throw it away." :)
    Brother Heavy, if the truth be told, if I had Rons money I would buy the gas company  =)

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

  • Tspud1
    Tspud1 Posts: 1,514
    RedSkip said:
    I'd assume the middle holes are smaller than the edges.  The gas won't escape through the middle because the pressure required is greater there than the sides.  (Path of least resistance)  Drill out the middle bar with a drill bit just a hair bigger than the holes themselves.

    Also, put a bigger regulator on the inlet to help push more gas to through the system.

    If you do that, it may throw off the air mixture so check the color of flame if you boost the gas pressure. There should be a air adjustment on venturi of burner.
  • Tspud1
    Tspud1 Posts: 1,514
    RRP said:
    DMW said:
    RRP said:
    BTW - does "everybody" know that LOWES sells a 4 pack of COLEMAN 1 pounder LP tanks for $14 plus change? I bet with my occasional BS use I'm set for several years!  =)
    That little griddle burns more gas than you would think. Do yourself a favor and pick up one of these next time you're at Lowes:
    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Char-Broil-3-8-in-0-3125-in-x-48-0-in-Male-Female-Propane-Hose/999919914

    Save the Coleman LP tanks for your Bernzomatic torch head.
    LOL - I hear you, but after 25 years lugging 2 big LP tanks after getting them filled then to my back yard and up the steps I decided NO MORE GAS! Thankfully no hernia developed, but at my age I'd rather pitch 4 of these 1 pound non-refillables for no more than what I plan to use my new 17" BlackStone. Don't get me wrong - I LOVE MY BGEs! The 17" BlackStone was an $80 whatever purchase!
    Do the 1LB tanks have enough pressure to run the grill?
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,676
    Tspud1 said:
    RRP said:
    DMW said:
    RRP said:
    BTW - does "everybody" know that LOWES sells a 4 pack of COLEMAN 1 pounder LP tanks for $14 plus change? I bet with my occasional BS use I'm set for several years!  =)
    That little griddle burns more gas than you would think. Do yourself a favor and pick up one of these next time you're at Lowes:
    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Char-Broil-3-8-in-0-3125-in-x-48-0-in-Male-Female-Propane-Hose/999919914

    Save the Coleman LP tanks for your Bernzomatic torch head.
    LOL - I hear you, but after 25 years lugging 2 big LP tanks after getting them filled then to my back yard and up the steps I decided NO MORE GAS! Thankfully no hernia developed, but at my age I'd rather pitch 4 of these 1 pound non-refillables for no more than what I plan to use my new 17" BlackStone. Don't get me wrong - I LOVE MY BGEs! The 17" BlackStone was an $80 whatever purchase!
    Do the 1LB tanks have enough pressure to run the grill?
    the 1 pounders heat it plenty hot and quick, you would not want to run a bigger regulator/higher pressure on the 17 as the flat top on the travel model is thinner lighter than the bigger units.  i abuse mine and have warped this unit, bs set me a new top so now i have two tops depending what im doing with it
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • minniemoh
    minniemoh Posts: 2,145
    You may want to be careful pushing more gas through. If you add heat, it may warp your cooking surface.

    My griddle warped like crazy the first time I fired it up. I was gradually warming it to season and it developed a 1/2" hump right in the middle. It still works fine for burgers but anything that requires some grease to cook doesn't work all that well as it runs immediately to the corners. I'm still awaiting the replacement as Blackstone was out of tops. Their customer service is great though.


    L x2, M, S, Mini and a Blackstone 36. She says I have enough now....
    eggAddict from MN!
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
    Ah, the beauty of CS, it heats quickly.  
    I can get 3 cooks out of one tank.
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • Eggcelsior
    Eggcelsior Posts: 14,414
    DMW said:
    Focker said:
    DMW said:
    Focker said:
    FWIW, WallyWorld has the best deal for the green tanks.

    No need for a hose here, kind of takes away from the stow and go anywhere beauty of it.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B0195MZHBK/RGVH4EIHHBLVO?ref_=glimp_1rv_cl
    Just because you have a hose doesn't mean you have to use it.
    Then why buy it in the first Fockin place?
    Hose for at home, little tanks for travel.
    It's better to have hose in every area code.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    minniemoh said:
    You may want to be careful pushing more gas through. If you add heat, it may warp your cooking surface.

    My griddle warped like crazy the first time I fired it up. I was gradually warming it to season and it developed a 1/2" hump right in the middle. It still works fine for burgers but anything that requires some grease to cook doesn't work all that well as it runs immediately to the corners. I'm still awaiting the replacement as Blackstone was out of tops. Their customer service is great though.


    Is the bottom of the 17" plate reinforced/braced/strengthened underneath?
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,128
    Focker said:
    Ah, the beauty of CS, it heats quickly.  
    I can get 3 cooks out of one tank.
    Just 3 cooks out of one of the 1 pounder tanks? You are kidding aren't you? Or how long do you fire up your 17" for and how long do you cook?
  • minniemoh
    minniemoh Posts: 2,145
    I've only gotten about 3 cooks out of a one pound tank as well. This was during winter use so it might get a little bit better as the weather warms up. 

    Just got tracking from Blackstone for my replacement griddle. I'm told it is reinforced now to prevent warping. 
    L x2, M, S, Mini and a Blackstone 36. She says I have enough now....
    eggAddict from MN!
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    RRP said:
    Focker said:
    Ah, the beauty of CS, it heats quickly.  
    I can get 3 cooks out of one tank.
    Just 3 cooks out of one of the 1 pounder tanks? You are kidding aren't you? Or how long do you fire up your 17" for and how long do you cook?
    Propane contains 92,000 BTU per gallon.
    Propane weights 4.2 pounds per gallon.

    So a 1lb tank has about 23K BTU. The 17" burner is 12K BTU so one tank might be good for no more than a couple of hours of runtime.

    Assume 10-15 minutes of warmup and another 15-30 minutes of cooking so 3 or 4 cooks sounds about right.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,128
    Thanks for doing the math. Perhaps I'm naive or selling the BS short, but I thought it was a merely a griddle for short fast cooks similar to a wok in that way. "15-30 minutes of cooking" time sounds way too long for my intended use such as for smash burgers and occasional breakfasts of bacon, eggs and pancakes.
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,443
    Forget the Coleman bottles.  The Russian center-cut propane lasts much, much longer.
    Love you bro!
  • odie91
    odie91 Posts: 541
     can you post a photo of the reinforced plate when you get it?
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,128
    odie91 said:
     can you post a photo of the reinforced plate when you get it?
    I know you didn't ask this question of me, but it appears my 17" I bought recently has the new welded "square-like" framework underneath. I took a pix, but for some reason COMCAST email isn't working tonight for our neighborhood, but phone and TV is. 
  • odie91
    odie91 Posts: 541
    Darn wish I knew about this.  I'm past my 90 at warranty.  I guess I'll have to use the hammer and 2x4 trick on my plate
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,676
    @RRP

    post a pic of the griddle bottom, i might fix my warped one.  whoever makes the little green bottles now is different from years ago, they dont hold up like they use to, some dont last long at all, im assuming slow leaking. in winter you only get about a half tank usage as they freeze if your cooking on high
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    @fishlessman, @rrp and anyone else who needs to know... here ya go. I contacted BS (Live Chat) and she said,

    "Some of the griddle tops on the 17" have been warping, but most of them don't. If yours ever did warp, we would replace it with a re-designed one that has a more difficult time warping. I would recommend either registering your product or keeping a copy of your receipt just in case that happens."

    Then I asked for a pic of the fix. I laughed when I saw it. =) 



    Then she told me that was a prototype and that the factory version looked nicer. Then she sent a pic of the "official" fix. Which, I guess does look better.

    Anyway, now you can fix your warped one just like the real deal. =)

    Save your 
    receipt!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,676
    @fishlessman, @rrp and anyone else who needs to know... here ya go. I contacted BS (Live Chat) and she said,

    "Some of the griddle tops on the 17" have been warping, but most of them don't. If yours ever did warp, we would replace it with a re-designed one that has a more difficult time warping. I would recommend either registering your product or keeping a copy of your receipt just in case that happens."

    Then I asked for a pic of the fix. I laughed when I saw it. =) 



    Then she told me that was a prototype and that the factory version looked nicer. Then she sent a pic of the "official" fix. Which, I guess does look better.

    Anyway, now you can fix your warped one just like the real deal. =)

    Save your 
    receipt!
    maybe i will just make a thicker one =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it