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JohnInCarolina

travisstrick

Hitch never said that. You better repent. 

travisstrick

GATraveller

Why don't you fine gentlemen ever include Muhammad in any of your religious jabs? 

travisstrick

GATraveller said:

Why don't you fine gentlemen ever include Muhammad in any of your religious jabs? 

You must be new. 

jabam

Just curious, are you guys anti Christian or anti Religion?

travisstrick

jabam said:

Just curious, are you guys anti Christian or anti Religion?

Yes. 

JohnInCarolina

jabam said:

Just curious, are you guys anti Christian or anti Religion?

Why not both?

Hans61

I have already intimated to you the danger of Parties in the State… Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human Mind. It exists under different shapes in all Governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils and enfeeble the Public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the Administration of the Government and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

It is important, likewise, that the habits of thinking in a free Country should inspire caution in those entrusted with its administration, to confine themselves within their respective Constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the Powers of one department to encroach upon another. The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create, whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart, is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position. The necessity of reciprocal checks in the exercise of political power, by dividing and distributing it into different depositaries, and constituting each the guardian of the public weal against invasions by the others, has been evinced by experiments ancient and modern; some of them in our country and under our own eyes. To preserve them must be as necessary as to institute them. If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit, which the use can at any time yield.

–George Washington, from the Farewell Address, Sept. 19, 1796 in: The Writings of George Washington, pp. 969-71 (Library of America ed. 1997)

nolaegghead

Sadly prophetic.

SloppyJoe

I just wanna have a few beers this weekend and celebrate a greater America with Trump in office.  

nolaegghead

SloppyJoe said:

I just wanna have a few beers this weekend and celebrate a greater America with Trump in office.  

watch out for the hangover

JohnInCarolina

SloppyJoe said:

I just wanna have a few beers this weekend and celebrate a greater America with Trump in office.  

DoubleEgger

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

MaC122 said:

@JohnInCarolina outstanding trolling. You must be looking for a fight

I'd be trolling too if I had to talk about math all day 

You'd have to understand it first.

Piss off you elitist asshat

pgprescott

DoubleEgger said:

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

MaC122 said:

@JohnInCarolina outstanding trolling. You must be looking for a fight

I'd be trolling too if I had to talk about math all day 

You'd have to understand it first.

Piss off you elitist asshat

John is part or big EDUCATION. As such, he is a very suspect character. Their profits are grotesque and they have no shame about it. They should be treated like big pharma and big oil, with disdain. The govt should step in like medicine and regulate the industry. They should limit pay scales and dictate the ciriculum to avoid being manipulated, I believe the current president should appoint a lifetime czar of higher education with sweeping authorities for both public and private institutions. Its only right that they be given about 30 cents on the dollar for their services just like big medicine. Anyone  found profiting off this vital activity should be fined and or jailed. . No??  

Legume

Make spelling great again!

Eoin

pgprescott said:

DoubleEgger said:

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

MaC122 said:

@JohnInCarolina outstanding trolling. You must be looking for a fight

I'd be trolling too if I had to talk about math all day 

You'd have to understand it first.

Piss off you elitist asshat

John is part or big EDUCATION. As such, he is a very suspect character. Their profits are grotesque and they have no shame about it. They should be treated like big pharma and big oil, with disdain. The govt should step in like medicine and regulate the industry. They should limit pay scales and dictate the ciriculum to avoid being manipulated, I believe the current president should appoint a lifetime czar of higher education with sweeping authorities for both public and private institutions. Its only right that they be given about 30 cents on the dollar for their services just like big medicine. Anyone  found profiting off this vital activity should be fined and or jailed. . No??  

I thought the Republican idea was small Government and free markets, not dictating pay scales and curricula. That's more Left than Right, or is Left the New Right (or vice versa)?

Not profiting from 'essential' activities is what the hard Left moan about here.  Everyone profits from everything, whether profit or salary, nobody works for free. Nationalisation guarantees no free market profit (apart from salaries), but also guarantees poor service and inefficiency, that's why the commies failed.

JohnInCarolina

Legume said:

Make spelling great again!

LOL.  There does appear to be a subtle point here concerning the failure of the educational system. 

DoubleEgger

Legume said:

Make spelling great again!

Is it supposed to be ass hat or asshat? 

Legume

DoubleEgger said:

Legume said:

Make spelling great again!

Is it supposed to be ass hat or asshat? 

I use them interchangeably

Ozzie_Isaac

This thread hit douchebaggery level 11.

Time to go cook, drink, and be merry instead of keyboard jockey.

Skiddymarker

travisstrick said:

jabam said:

Just curious, are you guys anti Christian or anti Religion?

Yes. 

Actually, freedom of religion could mean you can be free of religion, us agnostics are sitting on the fence - BTW, anyone wonder why Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were not on the Muslim country ban list? 

JohnInCarolina

If you thought Jews For Jesus was an oxymoron, wait until you meet Christians For Torture, Christians For Deportation and Christians Against Asylum.

h/t R. Tannenbaum

Botch

Skiddymarker said:
BTW, anyone wonder why Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were not on the Muslim country ban list? 

Ayup.  And every single mass shooter we've had since 9/11 have been US citizens.  

pgprescott

Eoin said:

pgprescott said:

DoubleEgger said:

JohnInCarolina said:

DoubleEgger said:

MaC122 said:

@JohnInCarolina outstanding trolling. You must be looking for a fight

I'd be trolling too if I had to talk about math all day 

You'd have to understand it first.

Piss off you elitist asshat

John is part or big EDUCATION. As such, he is a very suspect character. Their profits are grotesque and they have no shame about it. They should be treated like big pharma and big oil, with disdain. The govt should step in like medicine and regulate the industry. They should limit pay scales and dictate the ciriculum to avoid being manipulated, I believe the current president should appoint a lifetime czar of higher education with sweeping authorities for both public and private institutions. Its only right that they be given about 30 cents on the dollar for their services just like big medicine. Anyone  found profiting off this vital activity should be fined and or jailed. . No??  

I thought the Republican idea was small Government and free markets, not dictating pay scales and curricula. That's more Left than Right, or is Left the New Right (or vice versa)?

Not profiting from 'essential' activities is what the hard Left moan about here.  Everyone profits from everything, whether profit or salary, nobody works for free. Nationalisation guarantees no free market profit (apart from salaries), but also guarantees poor service and inefficiency, that's why the commies failed.

It's a joke. It reflects the way others see things except as it applies to them. 

pgprescott

Legume said:

DoubleEgger said:

Legume said:

Make spelling great again!

Is it supposed to be ass hat or asshat? 

I use them interchangeably

True dat. On your business card I'm sure. 

pgprescott

Legume said:

Make spelling great again!

Always the profound. 

nolaegghead

Anyone know where the sun goes at night?  The darkness frightens me.

blasting

I am not religious, but this thread seems disrespectful to our forum friends whose religion is a integral part of their life.  

Maybe consider becoming democrats?  I've heard those in that party are full of love, open mindedness, tolerance, and acceptance.

JohnInCarolina

Nutjobs be jobbin:

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