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Knife Sharpening - the DEFINITIVE Recommendation?
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MaskedMarvel
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greetings friends.
Mobile wont let me search, so I'm asking right out--
if if I ask for a knife sharpening system for my Asian knives for my birthday/xmas, what do I ask for to achieve scary sharp edges? Something not prohibitively expensive, please.
links appreciated. Hope you are very well!
thanks
8-damien
Mobile wont let me search, so I'm asking right out--
if if I ask for a knife sharpening system for my Asian knives for my birthday/xmas, what do I ask for to achieve scary sharp edges? Something not prohibitively expensive, please.
links appreciated. Hope you are very well!
thanks
8-damien
Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro!
36" Blackstone - Greensboro!
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I have this whetstone:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NI5JUY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and this sharpening steel:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YK1RAQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have one really good ($100+) knife and a bunch of okay knives (Victorinox, cheap colored Cuisinart, etc). This combination works very well. I do have a little hand-held draw-through type sharpener that I use on the Cuisinarts, it works fine.
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8milelake Upgraded Fixed-angle Knife Sharpener Kit Full Metal Professional 4 Sharpening Stones https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QIKP182/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wADoybD107NFB
This is is what I use for sharpening.
I also recomend some research on care and use of knives to keep them sharp.
Wood of or plastic cutting boards.
Use and hand wash. Dry immediately and back into proper storage. -
The cutting board steel and care I've got. Definitely
looking for something I can dial the precise angle in on..Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
MaskedMarvel said:greetings friends.
Mobile wont let me search, so I'm asking right out--
if if I ask for a knife sharpening system for my Asian knives for my birthday/xmas, what do I ask for to achieve scary sharp edges? Something not prohibitively expensive, please.
links appreciated. Hope you are very well!
thanks
8-damien“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
HeavyG said:MaskedMarvel said:greetings friends.
Mobile wont let me search, so I'm asking right out--
if if I ask for a knife sharpening system for my Asian knives for my birthday/xmas, what do I ask for to achieve scary sharp edges? Something not prohibitively expensive, please.
links appreciated. Hope you are very well!
thanks
8-damienLarge BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
MaskedMarvel said:greetings friends.
Mobile wont let me search, so I'm asking right out--
XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle. -
The full site link at the bottom just refreshes to home page. I'll try your suggestion thanks
edit --- worked thank gouLarge BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I'm on Android and this is what I seeGeorge Foreman? Who?Tim C. Panama City, Fl.Large, Minimax-soon
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For <$100 I think Mosca has offered a good option. Using a stone tho presumes that you're willing to put in some time and effort to become proficient in its use.
If you want something that is not quite so demanding of that effort you might consider something like this - https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Tri-Angle-Sharpmaker-Sharpener-204MF/dp/B000Q9C4AE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480191350&sr=8-1&keywords=spyderco+sharpmaker
If you're ok with spending a few bucks more and want something electric I know lots of folks are quite happy with this - https://www.amazon.com/Work-Sharp-WSKTS-KO-Knife-Sharpener/dp/B00EJ9CQKA/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1480191749&sr=1-1&keywords=ken+onion+knife+sharpener“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Definitely get a strop and some compound for day to day maintinance. Myself, I was unable to get a consistent edge by hand, and so went with a kit. The one I bought now goes for more than you want to pay. And, it still took me quite awhile to learn to use it well.
Stones are a better buy if you can hold your hand steady.
Consider finding a professional sharpener. If the knives are good, and they aren't abused, it might take 3 - 5 years to spend $100 keeping them scary.
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Alternatively, do what I do and get them sharpened at your local fish monger. If anyone knows how to get a good edge, it's a fish monger. Mine charges $5/per.
MMBGE / Large BGE / XL BGE (Craigslist Find) / SF30x80 cabinet trailer - "Ol' Mortimer" / Outdoor kitchen in progress.
RECOVERING BUBBLEHEAD
Southeastern CT. -
gdenby said:Definitely get a strop and some compound for day to day maintinance. Myself, I was unable to get a consistent edge by hand, and so went with a kit. The one I bought now goes for more than you want to pay. And, it still took me quite awhile to learn to use it well.
Stones are a better buy if you can hold your hand steady.
Consider finding a professional sharpener. If the knives are good, and they aren't abused, it might take 3 - 5 years to spend $100 keeping them scary.Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
tcracing said:Sorry to hijack this thread, but I'm on Android and this is what I see
"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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I got a Cook's Illustrated winner Chef'sChoice Trizor Model 15:
https://www.amazon.com/Choice-Trizor-EdgeSelect-Electric-Sharpener/dp/B0018RSEMU/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1480212165&sr=1-1&keywords=Chef%27sChoice+Trizor+Model+15
A bit more than you want to spend at $135. It grinds all knives to the narrower Japanese design, but I've since learned that most European manufacturers (including my own, Henckel's 4-star) have gone to the narrower angle, so I bought this grinder.
Before getting it, I did as suggested above and used a local knife sharpener, and then steeled my own knives once a week or so; I only needed the local guy once every five years or so. FWIW._____________"The reason I go out with young men is because men my age or older — well, now they’re all dead."
-Cher
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I have found this to work exceptionally well on double belvel Asian knives. Brings them back to razor sharp and holds a 15 deg angle with ease. This is a water filled ceramic sharpener, You remove the plastic cover and add water to the basin below the stone to keep them wet. My experience is this will keep your knives sharp with out the risk of damaging an expensive blade. I use it on my double belvel Globals and Shuns. Worth the money IMO.
http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO-643759/?affsrcid=AFF0005&utm_term=27409377632brandglobal&adpos=1o7&creative=45092948981&device=c&matchtype=&network=s&gclid=CImcndj0x9ACFQx9fgodRToDxA
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Cen Tex's review of the Ken Onion Work Sharp sold me:
http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1160521/work-sharp-ken-onion-edition-knife-sharpener-review/p1
It works great for me.
They/Them
Morgantown, PA
XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer - PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker -
I have been saving my pennies for one of these systems to be able to sharpen my knives and woodworking chisels, planes, planer blades, etc. Should finally be able to purchase it next year:
https://www.amazon.com/Tormek-T-8-Ultimate-Plus-Package/dp/B01FWIDQJG/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1480215916&sr=1-2&keywords=tormek+t8
There are cheaper versions available but this is the one that I'm waiting for.
MMBGE / Large BGE / XL BGE (Craigslist Find) / SF30x80 cabinet trailer - "Ol' Mortimer" / Outdoor kitchen in progress.
RECOVERING BUBBLEHEAD
Southeastern CT. -
@CTMike, that's the Holy Grail there! I'm a woodworker with a big collection of hand chisels, scrapers, and planes, and would love to have that machine.
EDIT: WHOA!!! Just clicked on your link; I was saving up for their $400 machine, had no idea they had a $1,700 machine!!!_____________"The reason I go out with young men is because men my age or older — well, now they’re all dead."
-Cher
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Botch said:@CTMike, that's the Holy Grail there! I'm a woodworker with a big collection of hand chisels, scrapers, and planes, and would love to have that machine.MMBGE / Large BGE / XL BGE (Craigslist Find) / SF30x80 cabinet trailer - "Ol' Mortimer" / Outdoor kitchen in progress.
RECOVERING BUBBLEHEAD
Southeastern CT. -
MaskedMarvel said:gdenby said:Definitely get a strop and some compound for day to day maintinance. Myself, I was unable to get a consistent edge by hand, and so went with a kit. The one I bought now goes for more than you want to pay. And, it still took me quite awhile to learn to use it well.
Typically, I need one or 2 sessions a year for most of my knives, so the set should last pretty much forever, except for the polishing tapes. I practiced a lot on some pretty banged up blades, so the coarse stone got a work out. I may eventually get a diamond plate to replace it.
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We have a knife sharpener dude tha comes by the restaurant, but he takes too much metal every time he comes.
The ken onion is looking like a real option @The Cen-Tex Smoker -- there seems to be a base model and an accessory pack?Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
My son gave me the chefs choice 315 for Christmas last year. I have good quality Asian knives and I don't take care of them. It's fast, idiot proof and easy to use. Will it give you the razor sharp you are looking for? Not likely but for ADD types like me it's fine.
Steve
Caledon, ON
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Have the chef choice - bought one for my buddy and he doesn't like it. I like mine - not perfect but sufficient for fishing knives and I occasionally drag my good knives across them and then fine tune. I think I can get a good edge on them. I always used a tri-stone in the restaurants.... Always had 12 inch but this smaller one may work depending on what you are sharpening...
https://www.amazon.com/Norton-IM200-Three-Sharpening-System/dp/B000XK4MYW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480273995&sr=8-2&keywords=tristone+knife+sharpener -
Didn't see the Ken Onion sharpener - you guys are a bad influence. How can you live without one of those?
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I know it's sort of old school, with no motors or anything but I love my Lanskey set. Great value, Can get easily razor sharp. Takes a bit of elbow grease but works super well. www.lanskey.com
But be careful. Two stories.
I sharpened a friends knife at deer camp. Next day he was sitting at the table and someone noticed his hand was bleeding. He had put the knife in the leather sheath wrong, slit the sheath wide open and had cut his hand on it without even knowing. It was that sharp.
I also did did a neighbors Swiss Army knife for him and he went to cut some plastic on a project has doing and pried on it wrong, shutting it on his finger cutting down to the bone. Don't use a razor sharp knife like a screwdriver.
Bonus story. My friend used it to touch up filet knives at the cottage, took his belt off to use as a strop and cut the belt in half on the first stroke. It can get a knife crazy sharp.Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large. -
gmac said:I know it's sort of old school, with no motors or anything but I love my Lanskey set. Great value, Can get easily razor sharp. Takes a bit of elbow grease but works super well. www.lanskey.com
But be careful. Two stories.
I sharpened a friends knife at deer camp. Next day he was sitting at the table and someone noticed his hand was bleeding. He had put the knife in the leather sheath wrong, slit the sheath wide open and had cut his hand on it without even knowing. It was that sharp.
I also did did a neighbors Swiss Army knife for him and he went to cut some plastic on a project has doing and pried on it wrong, shutting it on his finger cutting down to the bone. Don't use a razor sharp knife like a screwdriver.
Bonus story. My friend used it to touch up filet knives at the cottage, took his belt off to use as a strop and cut the belt in half on the first stroke. It can get a knife crazy sharp.Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
MaskedMarvel said:gmac said:I know it's sort of old school, with no motors or anything but I love my Lanskey set. Great value, Can get easily razor sharp. Takes a bit of elbow grease but works super well. www.lanskey.com
But be careful. Two stories.
I sharpened a friends knife at deer camp. Next day he was sitting at the table and someone noticed his hand was bleeding. He had put the knife in the leather sheath wrong, slit the sheath wide open and had cut his hand on it without even knowing. It was that sharp.
I also did did a neighbors Swiss Army knife for him and he went to cut some plastic on a project has doing and pried on it wrong, shutting it on his finger cutting down to the bone. Don't use a razor sharp knife like a screwdriver.
Bonus story. My friend used it to touch up filet knives at the cottage, took his belt off to use as a strop and cut the belt in half on the first stroke. It can get a knife crazy sharp.MMBGE / Large BGE / XL BGE (Craigslist Find) / SF30x80 cabinet trailer - "Ol' Mortimer" / Outdoor kitchen in progress.
RECOVERING BUBBLEHEAD
Southeastern CT. -
It works kind of like a mini Edge Pro Apex.
I do like how the blade and holder flip off the base to sharpen the other side. On the Apex, I have to work ambidextriously, while holding the knife handle. You get used to it.
BrandonQuad Cities
"If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful." -
CTMike said:MaskedMarvel said:gmac said:I know it's sort of old school, with no motors or anything but I love my Lanskey set. Great value, Can get easily razor sharp. Takes a bit of elbow grease but works super well. www.lanskey.com
But be careful. Two stories.
I sharpened a friends knife at deer camp. Next day he was sitting at the table and someone noticed his hand was bleeding. He had put the knife in the leather sheath wrong, slit the sheath wide open and had cut his hand on it without even knowing. It was that sharp.
I also did did a neighbors Swiss Army knife for him and he went to cut some plastic on a project has doing and pried on it wrong, shutting it on his finger cutting down to the bone. Don't use a razor sharp knife like a screwdriver.
Bonus story. My friend used it to touch up filet knives at the cottage, took his belt off to use as a strop and cut the belt in half on the first stroke. It can get a knife crazy sharp.Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro! -
How long of a blade will Lansky accommodate?Large BGE and Medium BGE
36" Blackstone - Greensboro!
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