Public housing was built in the US starting in the '30s as slum clearance and because there was a progressive movement with sanitation initiatives. Private developers demanded a private structure be torn down for every unit of public housing built. Slums were valuable real-estate and developers wanted the land. Also, the slums were thought to be sources of disease, and building codes were being advanced.  In the early days, public housing was more working class and middle class white than it ended up being before the large settlements were dismantled.

Now get back to your motorboat and glider Memes.  

Eggcelsior said:

tarheelmatt said:

theyolksonyou said:

Just so I understand the rules, it's ok to mock someone who is mocking someone, but not ok to mock that person?

And, Stike, just because you think you're so much smarter than me doesn't make it necessarily so. You have no idea of my level of intelligence. Stop being so uptight. 

Then this.. "If someone wanted to do nothing but comment on spelling and grammar here, it could be a fulltime job.  Especially given the demographic."

He saying we're poor and cannot afford an education here?  Come on Dike, get your head out of the sand.  

Logical fallacies do not help your argument, they just enforce his.

His logical fallacies places him in the same group that he's poking at....  Just saying... 



On the flip side, I am just trying to stoke the fire.  I can give two rips what he thinks about me or my demographic.  

henapple said:

@GATraveller ...I couldn't disagree more. @nolaegghead and @Eggcelsior and I are so far apart on the political / religious spectrum but I can't imagine people I'd rather hang out with. I'd hate to surround myself with only like minded people. 
My monthly men's group consist of a conservative, moderate, social extremist and a Lutheran Padre that makes Marx look like Reagan. 
If you can't be friends with people with other views. ...

I was just making a joke - guess the level of sarcasm was not high enough for detection.  Hell......I'm a repo man - my skin is quite thick and I hate everyone equally. 

henapple said:

Eggcelsior said:

henapple said:

Maybe. We have some culture problems with some of these institutions that are counter productive to the end goal of maintaining peace and order, 

the projects? 

Who built the projects? There is the real culprit.

I'm assuming our tax dollars did. Saw an interesting show about this. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_Homes

I would wager a single fire starter square, that most of us that drive by these locations, "the projects", we thank our lucky stars for our good fortune, not having to live there.

They were built by our government using our tax dollars. Our government also uses our tax dollars to fund every kind of social program that was developed to help these Americans who live there.

All this government has done for these Americans, has further segregated societal heritage, and culture. In doing so, we have tried to systematically enforce human corralling on levels unprecedented in any other Democratic country with an economy even remotely close to ours.

We should also remember, these are the lucky Americans. Millions more are homeless.

We can sit back and watch this continue, (and continue it will), or we can step up, each of us, and do something.

These people are Americans. We are too. I do not advocate being our brother's keeper or implementation of the further socialization of our country, but instead, help where your impact will be the greatest.

I am trying. These are our brothers and sisters.

Our taxes spent on this issue is not working. We can't spend enough to make it go away. We have to make it happen. I don't even pretend to have all the answers, but the evidence speaks for itself. The government system is failing these Americans.

We can do better.

@GATraveller Repo Man. Now I want to hear some stories. I KNOW you've have to have some doozies in your rolodex.  
FWIW I figured you were being sarcastic earlier.  

The 'demographic' is people drinking and talking about food. Has nothing to do with level of education

No fallacies involved, either. No one was commenting on grammar and spelling in a post 50 pages deep. So it thought it was fairly humorous that the first person to do so (henapple's posting the pic of a guy with a misspelled sign) was a good time to point out the error in his own previous post

It doesn't mean I am free of errors. It means merely that I don't point anyone's out unless they start to. 

Every single person here, self included, makes these same errors. Because this place isn't hung up on spelling and grammar as a rule

To me, it was just another example in this thread of people calling someone out for the same sh!t they themselves do. 

It wasn't about me or anyone elses being error free.

The amazing thing to me about this place is how, when it started, the members made great claims as to the level of discussion here being so much more civil, less base, better moderated, more about food, not dominated by a few personalities, etc. than the "old" forum. Fast forward a couple years and, what with humans being humans, this place is virtually the same. 

I don't have a stame in it one way or the other. Just interesting to note. The more things change....

I was on this forum for almost two years and it was sprinkled predominantly (except maybe for Tweev) with conservative narrative, guns, 'merican stuff like that.  For those almost two years I just bit my tongue.  Just like you strike up a conversation with someone and they drop some inappropriate bomb in the conversation, what do you do?   I understand this is a BBQ forum.  Nuff said.  I started to be a foil, devil's advocate.  But I didn't open the doors, those were opened by others.  Now I've opened a few, but I think it's good for everyone to be exposed to different ideas.  Many people will hate, but I will not.  I understand where they're coming from.  It's important to have dialogs.  We're not all that different, but we need to discuss issues honestly.

Best regards to you, sir.

JohnInCarolina said:

Twins

I'm not exactly sure what the main thread is about, but based on recent posts I think the following is ON topic...

Kate Upton- Cat Daddy (Vimeo)

Video link above.   Still below;

up here the projects seem to be working out well, within three generations some are even starting to speak english. and to simplify the confusion of all the cultures in the city ... irish, german, italian, french canadian, lebanese, lithuanians, jew, polish and english, we transformed the whole city into hispanic, really simplifies the paperwork