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"As the northeastern U.S. prepares for another major snowstorm along with extreme cold weather, residents and businesses are suffering from a shortage of propane.
Supplies of propane in the Northeast and Midwest regions took a hit during the recent "polar vortex"-induced cold spell, and deliveries to replenish the stocks have been hampered by poor weather.
That’s caused prices to spike for the fuel that nearly 6 million U.S. households rely on for home heating. Nationwide, propane prices averaged $2.86 per gallon last week, up 17% from the same period a year earlier, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Prices are even higher in some regions. Residential customers in New York state, for example, paid an average of $3.28 a gallon for propane last week, up from under $3 a gallon in December and 20% higher than at this time last year.
Several governors in the Midwest have already declared states of emergency, suspending rules limiting propane deliveries. Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Jan. 18 issued an emergency proclamation temporarily waiving rules that limited delivery hours for propane and heating oil. Kasich also activated the state’s national guard to assist residents affected by the shortage.
“This will help get propane companies resupplied so Ohioans who use propane to heat their homes can stay warm, while also doing it safely,” the governor said in a statement. “We’re also working closely with county officials to look out for people whose supplies might be getting low. I urge folks to look out for one another right now.”
Ohio is the 17th state to declare an emergency, according to a report by NBC News.
The
New England states, which have less storage capacity, have had trouble
receiving propane deliveries by rail because of bad weather, as well.
And propane deliveries will likely become more difficult as the latest
winter storm racing up the Eastern seaboard could bring a foot of snow
to major cities, including Philadelphia, New York and Boston.
Prices
will likely climb even higher as another patch of extreme cold weather
is expected. Temperatures will be 10 to 25 degrees below average across
much of the country starting on Tuesday night. Temperatures below
freezing could extend as far south as Memphis, Tenn., by Thursday.
The
propane shortage has its roots in the Midwest’s farm belt, where record
high corn crops this fall led to higher propane use. Farmers use
propane to dry crops and tapped more supplies than usual thanks to the
huge harvest and above-average rainfall.
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LBGE, Adjustable Rig, Spider, High-Que grate, maverick ET-732, Thermapen,
Garnerville, NY
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Basic rules of supply and demand I guess. I do feel sorry for those who do not have access to natural gas for heating as both heating oil and propane prices will be edging up as demand increases. Prices are only going to go up, so time to better insulate if you can.When living in the east, propane was a pain in the ass for grilling when the temp drops into single digits ºF. My 50,000 BTU grill became a <5000 BTU candle. used to use a battery blanket to warm it or bring the tank into the house to warm it up.Nice thing about charcoal, it burns pretty much the same no matter the temp.Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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Easy to be smug when the particular commodity YOUR not dependent on is in short supply, but every commodity item (fuels especially) is susceptible to any number of outside influences making it scarce, and driving up the price. A drought or some type of parasite could just as easily impact the wood supply lump is produced from.When I'm not Eggin', I'm scootin' Eggin' and 'cueing from Temecula Ca; an hour from San Diego, an hour and five minutes from Palm Springs, and an hour and a half from Los Angeles (yeah, right. With THAT traffic?)
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Not all gassers are propane. Mine is plumbed to natural gas.XLBGE, LBGE, MBGE, SMALL, MINI, 2 Kubs, Fire Magic Gasser
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i think its over 4 dollars a gallon here and my 250 gallon pig needs filling to heat the basement up to 42 degrees.....ARGHHH....the last fillup was just before xmasfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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Gogogordy said:Easy to be smug when the particular commodity YOUR not dependent on is in short supply, but every commodity item (fuels especially) is susceptible to any number of outside influences making it scarce, and driving up the price. A drought or some type of parasite could just as easily impact the wood supply lump is produced from.Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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WOW - Did not mean to offend anyone. Just a joke at a gas grill compared to the lump burning Egg. I guess that is not allowed here anymore.
Sorry.
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Don't make me pull this forum over!Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN
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Wonder why the corn growers, also known as ethanol producers, use propane instead of the most wonderful fuel ever (at least to them) ethanol. I'll bet there is no ethanol used in the equipment used to plant, cultivate, harvest or transport the corn either.
They have more political pull than us poor energy users I guess.
Enough of the rant.
Bob
Cookin' on the coast
Shellman Bluff, GA
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No need to apologize to me. You need to be way more offensive to offend me.robnybbq said:WOW - Did not mean to offend anyone. Just a joke at a gas grill compared to the lump burning Egg. I guess that is not allowed here anymore.
Sorry.XLBGE, LBGE, MBGE, SMALL, MINI, 2 Kubs, Fire Magic Gasser -
I doubt @robnybbq was being snide.Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN
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fishlessman said:i think its over 4 dollars a gallon here and my 250 gallon pig needs filling to heat the basement up to 42 degrees.....ARGHHH....the last fillup was just before xmascanuckland
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Canugghead said:fishlessman said:i think its over 4 dollars a gallon here and my 250 gallon pig needs filling to heat the basement up to 42 degrees.....ARGHHH....the last fillup was just before xmasfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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I gave my gas bbq to a neighbour down the road about year after getting the egg, actually never lit it again after getting the egg.Gerhard
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Skiddymarker said:Gogogordy said:Easy to be smug when the particular commodity YOUR not dependent on is in short supply, but every commodity item (fuels especially) is susceptible to any number of outside influences making it scarce, and driving up the price. A drought or some type of parasite could just as easily impact the wood supply lump is produced from.
No worries on my part....it's the innernets after all. Any subtlety intended or inferred gets lost in the typewritten version. Keep smiling, and eggin (or...gassing)When I'm not Eggin', I'm scootin' Eggin' and 'cueing from Temecula Ca; an hour from San Diego, an hour and five minutes from Palm Springs, and an hour and a half from Los Angeles (yeah, right. With THAT traffic?)
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