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henapple
henapple Posts: 16,025
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Cooking butts all weekend for some friends. Cooked yesterday.. 4 5lb butts. 160, foil till thermapen slipped in at 205. I had a really difficult time pulling... Seemed tough. I always cook this routine and have never seen this. I put 2 back on and did fine. Input? Cooking 4 more now.
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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,522
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    Any chance the small 5# were all from same hog? 
    I've noticed the <7# butts are generally harder to pull than those in the 7-10# range. i thought it was just me, but maybe there is something to a larger butt being easier to cook. 
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,832
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    I noticed that with a smaller brisket. It was finished but not tender. My theory is that on smaller ones they cook too fast and don't have time to tenderize fully. Just my theory and I'm still a newbie.
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  • henapple
    henapple Posts: 16,025
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    These were 10lb cut in half. Turbo style during the day. Putting all in foodsaver bags for some folks. I've never had this happen.
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  • SteveWPBFL
    SteveWPBFL Posts: 1,327
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    I did ten butts at once Saturday, all to 205 IT and two of them were still a little tight. I wish I'd looked them over for marbling beforehand because other than leaness not sure why the two were tight unless they were just plain stubborn to begin with!
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  • Tjcoley
    Tjcoley Posts: 3,551
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    I did 2 ten pounders the day before Thanksgiving.  One finished almost 2 hours before the other.  Both taken to 205 in multiple spots. The one that took longer was tougher and didn't pull as easily.  Done turbo at 350 til 165, wrapped in foil, then back on til 205.  I guess every hunk of meat is different.
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  • pgprescott
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    The connective tissue breaks down @ 160-185, the longer you keep the meat in that zone the more tender. As stated above, smaller cut and possible higher cook temps are possible culprits. Really need low and slow on smaller cuts, IMO.
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  • henapple
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    I did 4 today... Didn't inject... Came out as tender as a NFL quarterback.
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
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  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 9,846
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    henapple said:
    I did 4 today... Didn't inject... Came out as tender as a NFL quarterback.

    I've questioned this whole thread from the moment I read the title. Now that we have a peak into the @henapple rating scale for "tender" I'm even more confused.

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  • Skiddymarker
    Skiddymarker Posts: 8,522
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    @Foghorn - don't forget his point of reference is the Titans in general and Jake Locker specifically, now out for the season....
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  • henapple
    henapple Posts: 16,025
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    RG3, Vick, Kaepernick,
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
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  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 9,846
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    I'm confused.  Is this the tender butt list - or the tough butters?

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  • henapple
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    Tender.. Add Vince Young to that.
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
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  • Eggcelsior
    Eggcelsior Posts: 14,414
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    No one is as tender as Knowshon tender.

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  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 9,846
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    Aah. Got it. I had a hard time with this because when I use the google ap in my brain to search for "something (particularly a butt) I like to eat" and "tender" that isn't the list I come up with. But I'm not judging, I'm just explaining my confusion.

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  • henapple
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    Please post the list...
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