Watch Out RRP. You Might See Some Competition Coming Up!

WeberWho · April 14

I caught this post over on one of the Primo Facebook pages.

Quick update on Smokin’ Seal…

Yesterday we received the two new gasket design profiles with our upgraded material (a higher temperature food-grade silicone), and we have been working with a new supplier. Great news! Our initial testing is very positive and we will be expanding our testing to some of you over the next few weeks prior to seeing you at the Georgia Mountain Fire & Smoke Cooking Festival on May 16th!

Our goal has been simple:

Build a gasket system that actually holds up, seals consistently, is easily removable, and improves the cooking experience.

We’re not at “launch” yet — we will be actively testing over the next few weeks — but we’re getting close enough that we’re starting to bring more people into the process.

Right now we’re focused on two design profiles and trying to understand:

• Which one holds a better seal over time

• Which installs easier for different grill setups

• What real users notice that we might miss in our testing

Appreciate everyone who’s been following along, providing input, and asking questions — it’s been super helpful.

More updates soon as we dial it in.

Darren

JohnInCarolina · April 14

All the colors in the world, and they went with ... whatever that is.

alaskanassasin · April 14

@rrp has seen them come and go.

WeberWho · April 14

The title was just in jest. I messaged the owner as I was curious about it being made from silicone. (I believe the upper end for silicone is around 500°F) He mentioned that the silicone they are testing is around 350°F. So this particular gasket is for low and slow cooks and removable when not it use.

YukonRon · April 14

There is only RRP. There are no others.

DoubleEgger · April 14

WeberWho said:

The title was just in jest. I messaged the owner as I was curious about it being made from silicone. (I believe the upper end for silicone is around 500°F) He mentioned that the silicone they are testing is around 350°F. So this particular gasket is for low and slow cooks and removable when not it use.

That’ll be a flop.

GrateEggspectations · April 14

WeberWho said:

The title was just in jest. I messaged the owner as I was curious about it being made from silicone. (I believe the upper end for silicone is around 500°F) He mentioned that the silicone they are testing is around 350°F. So this particular gasket is for low and slow cooks and removable when not it use.

That’s a hefty ask of Eggers, I think. Egging is already pretty labour intensive (in an enjoyable way, for many of us) - at least relative to gassers. If I had to think about which gasket to run for a cook, I don’t think I would want to entertain that. But more power to anyone who would.

RRP · April 15

Thanks @WeberWho - At this point I'm not looking over my shoulder...but it will appeal to some for sure...but that 350 degree high is a game changer. Plus there was no mention of the price, nor shipping and handling. I'll bet I'll still be the low cost provider - after 22 years of never changing my prices I finally had to bump them up by $1 for a large for instance. Call me Low Ball RRP

Corv · April 15

Who on Earth would want a gasket that they need to swap depending on the cook? First time they forget it'll be a serious mess, assuming that the food is even edible. And the first time they replace that one with the high-temperature one they'll think, why bother with the orange one?

Seems to me to be a product without a home, looking in the wrong place for one.

WeberWho · April 15

RRP said:

Thanks @WeberWho - At this point I'm not looking over my shoulder...but it will appeal to some for sure...but that 350 degree high is a game changer. Plus there was no mention of the price, nor shipping and handling. I'll bet I'll still be the low cost provider - after 22 years of never changing my prices I finally had to bump them up by $1 for a large for instance. Call me Low Ball RRP

I'm sure it will garner some interest to some folks. I could see it being a band-aid for someone who doesn't want to pony up for a replacement band if something was twisted and tweaked causing a slight air gap. I don't know if there is a need otherwise if you have a perfectly good deal around your grill. I'm maybe missing something. I hope it takes off and I wish the guy all the best!

I love my Rutlands and the service you provide to others! You should add an additional $4-5 per order for your time but I know you're not in it for profit. It's easily worth whatever you ask for your time and expertise!

alaskanassasin · April 15

I’d buy one. It gets windy as heck here and that can effect my low and slows. I don’t see the need for an upper and lower but it looks as easy to install as swapping out the racks or indirect set up or setting up the smobot. Lmk know if he delivers @WeberWho.

alaskanassasin · April 15

My hesitation would be the expectation that you run no gasket for anything over 350? I don’t think I’d want to run no gasket on hotter cooks

WeberWho · April 15

alaskanassasin said:

I’d buy one. It gets windy as heck here and that can effect my low and slows. I don’t see the need for an upper and lower but it looks as easy to install as swapping out the racks or indirect set up or setting up the smobot. Lmk know if he delivers @WeberWho.

Will do!

Buckwoody Egger · April 15

assassin maybe they think it can go over an existing gasket that’s a little leaky?

edit- did a little research and see that the guys making those assumes gasket is removed.

lava lock is a high temp silicone sealant that specifically mentions bbq grills.

the rutland white fiberglass braid also saying it is for grills

it seems that the market is now including, instead of avoiding, the long standing permatex and fiberglass braid option.

MaskedMarvel · April 15

Removable? Sounds like a dome adjustment, every time.

JohnInCarolina · April 15

The more I learn about this the less it makes sense to me.

alaskanassasin · April 15

Good call @MaskedMarvel

Begger · April 16

There are Dozens if not Hundreds of 'elastomers' available for test.
Just an example? I've seen all compounds used in semiconductor processing.
Heat resistance is important as is chemical resistance. We used Viton. And Nitrile and Buna-N.
We used a little and Very Expensive material called KalRez which is almost everything proof......
Silicon comes red because of something used in the manufacture....I thought it was iron, but might be off on that. The red is higher temp material.

The key with the egg is surviving a clean burn run. I've seen my dome thermometer get into it's second lap, maybe 800f or so? It took hours to cool...And I think my issued 'felted' gasket lasted 2 or them.....
I saved some of my woven from RRP and may test that.
OH! I've seen that material before in a different form as insulation material in Very high temp (1000c and higher) furnaces....

MaskedMarvel · April 16

Something I’ve always considered developing was a gasket that sits on the OUTSIDE of the dome - instead of BETWEEN the rims. Cooler temps there, and would zero the adjustments (provided the rims are matched from the kiln (even so, outside should work)).

maybe a “skirt” style gasket that simply drapes over the top and snugs down? Make it tight. Maybe it would stretch too much? I dunno.. a felt ring at the vital area? Work with me here..

I mean - who cares if the seal is inside or outside? As long as it seals?

JohnInCarolina · April 16

MaskedMarvel said:

Something I’ve always considered developing was a gasket that sits on the OUTSIDE of the dome - instead of BETWEEN the rims. Cooler temps there, and would zero the adjustments (provided the rims are matched from the kiln (even so, outside should work)).

maybe a “skirt” style gasket that simply drapes over the top and snugs down? Make it tight. Maybe it would stretch too much? I dunno.. a felt ring at the vital area? Work with me here..

I mean - who cares if the seal is inside or outside? As long as it seals?

Seal did you say?

Buckwoody Egger · April 17

looks like the seller will be at georgia mountain fire and smoke in May—

and a handful of cook spots have opened up!! with 5 junior primos raffled to cooks and 100 cooks that is a 1 in 20 or 5% chance to win.

Watch Out RRP. You Might See Some Competition Coming Up!

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