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  • Buckwoody Egger
    Buckwoody Egger Posts: 1,466
    Legume said:
     Why would I or should I care about the 17th pork chop post with all of the lawlessness, cruelty and hate tearing the country apart?
    being supportive and interested in the 17th pork chop in a world full of adversity is closer to the meaning of life than complaining. also closer to the intent of the forum 

    if there is a place you can go (in addition to being here) and actions you can take (other than woe and dismay) to make a difference, my advice is to go there and do it

    we are positioned to undo and revert the bad faster than at any point in history. we won’t get there constantly interrupting good things 



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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    Buckwoody Egger said:
    Legume said:
     Why would I or should I care about the 17th pork chop post with all of the lawlessness, cruelty and hate tearing the country apart?
    being supportive and interested in the 17th pork chop in a world full of adversity is closer to the meaning of life than complaining. also closer to the intent of the forum 

    if there is a place you can go (in addition to being here) and actions you can take (other than woe and dismay) to make a difference, my advice is to go there and do it

    we are positioned to undo and revert the bad faster than at any point in history. we won’t get there constantly interrupting good things 



    That wouldn't be very true to myself, today, to feign interest in that porkchop.  But I don't interrupt it or crap on it either.

    Complaining, sigh. Is that what I'm doing? Or Ozzie? Sharing of perspective? Highlighting egregious behavior by our elected officials? How else do you combat massive disinformation and intimidation of the media? Share your stories, share your perspectives, discuss. Enlighten others and be enlightened.  

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    alaskanassasin said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Do you get angry when people hold political signs along side the road when you drive to get groceries?  We protest where and when we can.

    This forum used to be absolutely crazy with the political threads and drunken “discussions”.

    I don’t do social media except this forum - these are generally my friends and I wouldn’t hold anything against anyone for disagreeing with me - many do.
    You lost me when you said it’s great that America is using Ukraine to kill Russians. 
    1.  Russia is a destabilizing force and without provocation invaded a sovereign country.

    2.  Russia planned to use their sizable military to overrun a country that didn’t have a sizable military, especially hardware wise.

    3. Ukraine has a self interest to not be occupied and ruled by Russia.

    4.  USA provided military hardware to Ukraine to fight back the invasion.

    Conclusion: USA is using hardware built specifically to destroy Russian (and Chinese) military hardware during an armed conflict.  We spent the resources to build it, now it gets use for its intended purpose.  The world is safer every-time a Russian (and Chinese) Tank, Plane, APC, etc is destroyed.  We are safer, NATO is safer, and no American lives are being risked.

    How you value American lives and a safer world I cannot say.  I put a high value on that.
    Glad you support trump on these points
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    Hey Fish, hasn't he been trying to get Ukraine to settle and let their occupied land go?  Isn't he just continuing the policy that preceded him by continuing to supply armament? Don't get me wrong, I'm in support of this, but, not exactly a bold or new or hard to continue policy.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,131
    More war mongering to steal mineral resources just like Venezuela. 

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-threatens-cut-off-aid-nigeria-military-action/story?id=127097323
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,131
    edited November 2
    I’d say that Seth has about three weeks left. 



    Here’s the reason. 

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  • Buckwoody Egger
    Buckwoody Egger Posts: 1,466
    looking forward to everyone’s plan in, what, two weeks?
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    Legume said:
    Hey Fish, hasn't he been trying to get Ukraine to settle and let their occupied land go?  Isn't he just continuing the policy that preceded him by continuing to supply armament? Don't get me wrong, I'm in support of this, but, not exactly a bold or new or hard to continue policy.
    There isn't much more that can be done except to wait it out. Well we could give Ukraine the means to take the offensive in down town Moscow..... =) would make the land split more interesting if Ukraine gets moscow
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    alaskanassasin said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac where u at on the Polyscience Control Freak? U tryna get it in the divorce? Take it or leave it? I’d like to get one but it seems like an expensive gadget 
    I have it already.  I lost most the stuff, but did take my control freak!!

    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    Pretty impressive sweep last night!!  I bet there is a lot of mustard and ketchup being cleaned off the walls in the king’s castle today!!


    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Pretty impressive sweep last night!!  I bet there is a lot of mustard and ketchup being cleaned off the walls in the king’s castle today!!



    one step closer to being like china/russia/cuba.  hoping its cuba
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,646
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Pretty impressive sweep last night!!  I bet there is a lot of mustard and ketchup being cleaned off the walls in the king’s castle today!!



    one step closer to being like china/russia/cuba.  hoping its cuba
    You mean because we’re getting ready to invade another country (or two) for no good reason?
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    JohnInCarolina said:
    fishlessman said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Pretty impressive sweep last night!!  I bet there is a lot of mustard and ketchup being cleaned off the walls in the king’s castle today!!



    one step closer to being like china/russia/cuba.  hoping its cuba
    You mean because we’re getting ready to invade another country (or two) for no good reason?
    doubtful, but since he killed american democracy and the democrats are now pushing socialism/communism, well i gave three options. pick one you like.....russia, china, or cuba
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,131
    I know which one MAGA would pick…
     
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    DoubleEgger said:
    I know which one MAGA would pick…
     

    good looking bread and nice bakery.....something to think about. nyc state owned bakeries will probably close though ;)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,131
    Nothing says despot like appealing a court ruling to feed the poor. 

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    DoubleEgger said:
    Nothing says despot like appealing a court ruling to feed the poor. 


    whats the chances that if trump feeds the poor per court order that the next judge says its illegal the way trump handled it.....
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    DoubleEgger said:
    Nothing says despot like appealing a court ruling to feed the poor. 

    That money is needed for the Arc de Trump and his grand ballroom.

    Im really surprised da King hasn’t learned from Fransico Franco and used his imprisoned political opponents to build these?  Would save the taxpayers some money.

    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    Trump rages while golfing

    https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-lashes-out-at-democrats-from-golf-course-bound-motorcade-amid-shutdown-chaos/

    Supreme Court allows Trump to starve the citizenry.

    https://apnews.com/article/snap-food-government-shutdown-trump-a807e9f0c0a7213e203c074553dc1f9b

    Pretty crazy 2025 so far. Every year since 2020 I keep thinking this will finally be the year we get back on track!  So far I have been continually disappointed.

    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    Is it 13,14,15. Times now the Dems have voted to starve the children.   :D.  Hard to keep up
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,329
    edited November 9
    fishlessman said:
    Is it 13,14,15. Times now the Dems have voted to starve the children.   :D.  Hard to keep up
    The Dems have been in DC, all this time, waiting to negotiate with the republicans, who are all in their home states but refuse to hold any town halls or even individual meetings at all (at least in my Red state).  Why are they not following the Leadership of their own Cult Head:
     
    https://youtu.be/YyAH6dntDqw?si=4fPsRwos4r_JDVRB
    "First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
           - Niccolo Machiavelli

    Ogden, UT, USA

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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,541
    Botch said:
    fishlessman said:
    Is it 13,14,15. Times now the Dems have voted to starve the children.   :D.  Hard to keep up
    The Dems have been in DC, all this time, waiting to negotiate with the republicans, who are all in their home states but refuse to hold any town halls or even individual meetings at all (at least in my Red state).  Why are they not following the Leadership of their own Cult Head:
     
    https://youtu.be/YyAH6dntDqw?si=4fPsRwos4r_JDVRB
    Just pass the clean bill and open the govt back up. Both sides want that. Well maybe not..
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,646
    fishlessman said:
    Botch said:
    fishlessman said:
    Is it 13,14,15. Times now the Dems have voted to starve the children.   :D.  Hard to keep up
    The Dems have been in DC, all this time, waiting to negotiate with the republicans, who are all in their home states but refuse to hold any town halls or even individual meetings at all (at least in my Red state).  Why are they not following the Leadership of their own Cult Head:
     
    https://youtu.be/YyAH6dntDqw?si=4fPsRwos4r_JDVRB
    Just pass the clean bill and open the govt back up. Both sides want that. Well maybe not..
    There is absolutely nothing stopping the GOP from ending the filibuster and passing their own budget.  You can try and blame Democrats all you want, but this one is on the GOP and the GOP alone.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,652
    There is nothing stopping the D's from voting for the clean CR.
    I must say that the filibuster is a needed parliamentary rule for me.  You can obviously dance around it has been done in the past but it does force some level of compromise or in this case the wrong approach to eliminate, for what downstream??
    I'm with @fishlessman here.  There is no need to hold the country hostage.
    The ACA and it's benefits (which I support) is now confronting reality  of the plus ups (It is extremely difficult if not impossible to claw back supposed "temporary" benefits due to covid).  Of note, they expire 12/31/2025. However the D's are using it to hold the clean CR hostage.  
    MSM has done a poor job of laying out the true legislative calendar here.  Pass the CR and then deal with the ACA issues.  
    Sometimes you've got to look at the country more than your constituents.  

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 7,316
    edited November 9
    Both parties have had times when they would have regretted doing away with the filibuster. It it does as it’s intended and slows potentially rash actions. On this item I agree with Lousubcap
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,131
    edited November 9
    The GOP negotiating in good faith after they get what they want? C’mon. 




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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,646
    lousubcap said:
    There is nothing stopping the D's from voting for the clean CR.

    In the Senate?  The clean CR that passed the House only funds the government until November 21.  Then we’re right back where we started.  That clean CR is becoming more obsolete by the day.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,646
    lousubcap said:

    I must say that the filibuster is a needed parliamentary rule for me.  You can obviously dance around it has been done in the past but it does force some level of compromise or in this case the wrong approach to eliminate, for what downstream??


    I'm all for the filibuster in theory, but of late it hasn't exactly been a mechanism to foster compromise.

    What the Democrats were told this round is akin to: give us 7 votes to pass this bill, which has everything the GOP wants, with zero concessions to your party, or else the government shuts down.  Maybe that looks like "compromise" to you but it doesn't to me.  

    The reality is that the filibuster remains not because the Senate actually persists as some olde-timey (nod) parliamentary body of gentlemen and gentlewomen, who come together in good faith to negotiate, but rather because the Republicans simply don't have the votes (yet) to eliminate it.  That's not all that surprising.  There are likely at least 4 Republican Senators who know that if the filibuster goes away, they'll effectively lose all of their negotiating power with their own party.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,622
    Could they vote to remove the filibuster, pass whatever they need, then immediately reinstate the filibuster?

    There is a significant overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans - Park Ranger designing bear proof trash cans.

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,646
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    Could they vote to remove the filibuster, pass whatever they need, then immediately reinstate the filibuster?
    They can do whatever they want.  The majority party is free to set the rules in the chamber.  They don’t need 60 votes to make rule changes.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

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