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  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • And so Skynet begins.

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,330
    From Robert Reich, last week: 
     

    No one better illustrates the sinister consequences of great wealth turned into unaccountable power than Elon Musk.

    Musk, the richest person in the world, is not only claiming presidential authority to fire federal workers, but he’s posting the identities of those whose jobs he wants to eliminate — with the clear intention that his followers harass and threaten them so they quit.

    Musk is utterly unaccountable. He has never been elected to anything, but he spent $120 million helping Trump become the president-elect and is now acting as if he’s Trump’s co-president, calling himself Trump’s “First Buddy.”

    After buying Twitter for $44 billion, Musk turned it into a cesspool of disinformation and conspiracy theories and manipulated its algorithm to give himself 205 million followers, to whom he is now distributing treacherous lies.

    In recent days, Musk boosted posts on his website singling out the names and job titles of four federal employees working in climate policy and regulation who have done nothing other than hold titles Musk dislikes. All four targets are women.

    In one instance, Musk quote-tweeted a post highlighting the role of 37-year-old Ashley Thomas, a little-known director of climate diversification at the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation.

    Musk’s repost — “So many fake jobs” — garnered 32 million views, triggering a tsunami of taunts against Thomas, such as, “Sorry Ashley Thomas Gravy Train is Over” and “A tough way for Ashley Thomas to find out she’s losing her job.”

    Musk apparently took the word “diversification” in Thomas’s title to mean the “D” in “DEI,” which Musk considers “woke.”

    Thomas (who holds degrees in engineering, business, and water science from Oxford and MIT) is focused on climate diversification to protect agriculture and infrastructure from extreme weather events.

    Following Musk’s tweet, Thomas shut down several of her social media accounts.

    In another repost, Musk mocked Alexis Pelosi, a relative of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who works as a senior adviser to climate change at the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

    “Nancy Pelosi’s niece should not be paid $181,648.00 by the U.S. Taxpayer to be the ‘Climate Advisor’ at HUD,” the original account wrote. “But maybe her advice is amazing 🤣🤣” Musk snarked.

    Musk also singled out the chief climate officer in the Department of Energy’s loan programs office and shared the name of an employee serving as senior adviser on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services.

    IMHO, Musk’s targets should sue him for defamation.

    This is hardly the first time Musk has targeted specific people, and he obviously knows how dangerous such targeting can be.

    After taking over Twitter in 2022, Musk targeted Yoel Roth, the platform’s former head of trust and safety, who had recently left the company. Musk tweeted, incorrectly, that it looked like Roth had argued “in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services.” Some platform users interpreted this as Musk calling Roth a pedophile, and they posted calls for Roth’s death.

    Roth moved out of his house because of the threats.

    Musk has also singled out specific civil servants. In 2021, he targeted Missy Cummings, a former fighter pilot and senior adviser at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, whom Musk claimed was “extremely biased against Tesla” because she questioned the safety of Tesla’s advanced driver-assistance system.

    Cummings said she received death threats and was forced to leave her home as a result of Musk’s posts.

    Musk’s current targeting is even more dangerous because he has the apparent authority of the president-elect. Although the so-called “Department of Government Efficiency” that Musk is co-heading (with Vivek Ramaswamy) isn’t a real department and has not been authorized by Congress, Musk is acting as if it’s real.

    Cummings says Musk’s personal intimidation is already leading some longtime federal employees to leave their jobs: “He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working.”

    I worked in the federal government between 1974 and 1980, first at the Federal Trade Commission and then at the Justice Department, and from 1993 to 1997 I served as secretary of labor.

    Most of the federal employees I came to know cared deeply about the common good. The vast majority did their work carefully and thoughtfully. We owe them a huge debt of gratitude.

    But ever since Richard Nixon attacked “unelected bureaucrats” as America’s enemy and Ronald Reagan blamed “liberal bureaucrats” for government’s failings, government employees have been scapegoated. And now Trump is preparing to attack the so-called “deep state.”

    In fact, America spends less each year on the federal government’s civilian workforce (roughly $200 billion) than we spend annually on federal contractors ($750 billion).

    Much of the “fat” is found in these private, for-profit contractors, who aren’t accountable to anyone except the office that draws up the contracts.

    The biggest waste is in the Defense Department, where many contractors have avoided competitive bidding because they have a monopoly over critical technologies.

    Which brings me back to Musk, whose businesses are fast becoming among the government’s largest contract monopolists. According to USASpending.gov (the government database that tracks federal spending), Musk’s SpaceX and his Starlink satellite division have signed contracts totaling nearly $20 billion.

    I don’t know how much waste and inefficiency are to be found in Musk’s government contracts because I haven’t been able to find any reports on them — which is precisely the problem.

    While Musk seeks to intimidate federal civil servants whose job titles he dislikes, forcing some to leave government because his postings have elicited threats to their lives, Musk is distracting attention from himself and his own profitable dips into the taxpayer trough.

    I invite any of you with an inclination to root out waste and inefficiency to find out what you can about any likely abuses in Musk’s government contracts, and let us know what you come up with.

    "First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
           - Niccolo Machiavelli

    Ogden, UT, USA

  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,552
    It's all bidens fault  =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    Another case of where power corrupts-and it will only get worse.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    Well played @DoubleEgger.
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  

  • "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,139

    I’m pretty sure the kid was yelling “Where’s my child support man!” 
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,139
    Please tell me again about “cancel culture”. 
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,936
    Meteorologist fired as snowflakes bite back
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,330
    "First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
           - Niccolo Machiavelli

    Ogden, UT, USA

  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664
    This is not even remotely true:


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,330
    edited February 7
    Robert Reich, 6 February:
     
    Musk’s rats continue to burrow into sensitive government payment systems.
    According to the best source I’ve found on this (Nathan Tankus’s Crises Notes), Musk and his rats have now gained unrestricted access to your Social Security number, your confidential bank information, your confidential medical information, and much more.
    Musk boasts that his team is “rapidly shutting down” Treasury remittances.
    They’ve tunneled into the health payment systems at the Department of Health and Human Services. They’ve begun to burrow into the Labor Department (I have no idea whether they’ve penetrated the Bureau of Labor Statistics as yet), and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They’ve already penetrated the Veterans Affairs systems.
    Yesterday, federal Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly temporarily barred the Treasury Department from handing data from its payments system to Musk and his rats, but it’s far from clear this will stop them.
    Technically, Musk’s rats still retain “read and write” code access because Judge Kollar-Kotelly barred “read only” access. That means they can still stop or alter federal payments.
    Note that even after another federal judge — George A. O’Toole, Jr. — blocked Musk’s buyout offer for federal employees until a full hearing Monday afternoon, Musk has continued to urge federal workers to voluntarily leave their jobs or brace for layoffs.
    According to yesterday’s Wired magazine, some of Musk’s rats who have gained access to sensitive federal data couldn’t pass background checks required for such access.
    Yesterday, one of them, a 25-year-old coder named Marko Elez, abruptly resigned after apparently racist comments from a dormant social media account were unearthed.
    Another, a 19-year-old high school graduate now combing through sensitive government information, also runs a business that controls dozens of web domains, including at least two that are registered in Russia. One offers an AI bot for servers targeting the Russian market.
    Hello?
    Musk and his rats have nothing whatever to do with rooting out “waste and fraud.” Their real purpose is to usurp Congress’s authority over spending, under Article I Section 8 of the Constitution.
    If Trump can turn off a spigot on what Congress wants, he has more power to get something back from Congress for turning that spigot on — say, the authority to close down the Labor Department or the EPA, or spend more on the border.
    Sure, there’s some waste and fraud in government. That’s why every department had an Inspector General to find and stop it — until Trump fired most of them. In addition, before Musk’s rats tunneled into the General Services Administration, accountants oversaw every department’s and agency’s spending.
    In other words, the coup continues.
    Zoom out and the picture is even worse. You want waste and fraud? Look at what some big corporations and very wealthy people are getting away with.
    Tesla’s annual financial report, released Wednesday, shows that although the corporation earned $2.3 billion in the United States in 2024, it reported to the IRS that it owed precisely zero in federal income taxes.
    Or consider billionaire Scott Bessent, Trump’s new Treasury secretary (who’s been allowing Musk’s rats into the federal payments system). Turns out, Bessent paid no Medicare taxes on income he earned through his hedge fund (a practice the IRS has deemed illegal).
    Oh, and Bessent fully exploited the “carried interest” loophole to lower his taxes even further.
    Musk of course won’t recommend eliminating these and other tax loopholes — even though they caused the government to lose at least $1.8 trillion worth of tax revenue in 2023 alone.
    I also doubt Musk will recommend cutting the billions in government contracts and subsidies his own corporations receive.
    Or cutting America’s bloated military budget that’s bigger than the next nine countries’ military budgets combined — half of which goes to private defense contractors like Musk’s own SpaceX and Starlink.
    And Musk of course won’t recommend that Republicans halt their plans to extend Trump’s tax cuts — which will add at least $5 trillion to the deficit and predominantly benefit billionaires, like him.
    That’s more than twice the amount Musk initially said he’d cut in “wasteful” government spending, if you’re keeping track.
    Instead, Musk wants to cut the government agencies that protect you but limit the profitability of his corporations.
    The Labor Department, into which Musk’s rats are now burrowing (and which I once ran), protects workers from employers who want to scam them — as Musk has done to his own employees.
    The Department of Labor also protects workers from employers who want to cut corners on safety and thereby expose employees to harms on the job — as has Musk at Tesla and SpaceX.
    And the National Labor Relations Board — now rendered inoperable because Trump illegally terminated one of its members — protects workers from being fired for trying to form a union, as Musk has done to Tesla employees.
    In addition, because there’s no other place to find anything close to the $2 trillion Musk is promising to cut from the federal budget, I expect he’ll turn to cutting Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, which together comprise roughly 45 percent of the federal budget.
    The fundamental issue isn’t the size of the government or how to make government more “efficient.” It’s who our government is for.
    Should it work mainly for big corporations and billionaires, including the richest person in the world — or for the rest of us?
    "First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
           - Niccolo Machiavelli

    Ogden, UT, USA

  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,664

    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat