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Yes, you are right.pgprescott said:
If you had any nads you would have dropped him and reported him if you expected cheating. It’s not like you teach basket weaving.JohnInCarolina said:
As an educator, I am reminded of a student I once had. I was comparing some of his exam answers to the solution, and some of them were identical, line by line. My hunch was that he'd probably used Google to search for the problems during the exam.pgprescott said:
It’s precisely the opposite. I repeatedly stated I accepted Careys response but you sycophants just keep stirring the pot. I feel obligated to educate you all. As an educator surely you can understand not letting class out prior to completion of the lesson. No?JohnInCarolina said:
Everyone is surely impressed by your doubling, tripling, and then quadrupling down on this line of argument, when most of us figured you were just trying to be a d!ck to Nola.pgprescott said:
Found it a couple days ago along with a bunch of other articles saying exactly what I had expressed. I just was gonna let it go until all the sycophants kept chiming in with their uneducated responses like yours.Botch said:
I'm gonna take your last three days of desparate intranetz searches, to find this, as your "word".pgprescott said:https://harvestamericacues.com/2019/06/03/the-chef-title-earned-getting-it-straight/amp/This guys seems to echo my sentiments pretty closely. So don’t take my word for it, take his.
Word.
So I called him into my office. I showed him the answers he gave to some of the problems, and the solutions. I asked him to explain his answers.
With a straight face, he told me that I had told the class they could use any material they wanted to prepare for the exam (this was true), and that during his studying he had stumbled across these problems on the internet. And since he had a photographic memory, he had been able to memorize them.
So then I said, well, that does seem like a perfectly reasonable explanation. I took back his exam and the solutions, and I said since he had a photographic memory, surely he could reproduce the answer he had given to problem number 3 at the board in my office?
He said "you see, Professor, the thing about my photographic memory is... it's only temporary."
I gave him the option of presenting that argument to an honor council of his peers or just taking an F on the exam.
He took the F.
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So, you reported him? Or maybe Duke just wants the money from a dishonest grad student. Maybe his family is a big donor or a legacy?JohnInCarolina said:
Yes, you are right.pgprescott said:
If you had any nads you would have dropped him and reported him if you expected cheating. It’s not like you teach basket weaving.JohnInCarolina said:
As an educator, I am reminded of a student I once had. I was comparing some of his exam answers to the solution, and some of them were identical, line by line. My hunch was that he'd probably used Google to search for the problems during the exam.pgprescott said:
It’s precisely the opposite. I repeatedly stated I accepted Careys response but you sycophants just keep stirring the pot. I feel obligated to educate you all. As an educator surely you can understand not letting class out prior to completion of the lesson. No?JohnInCarolina said:
Everyone is surely impressed by your doubling, tripling, and then quadrupling down on this line of argument, when most of us figured you were just trying to be a d!ck to Nola.pgprescott said:
Found it a couple days ago along with a bunch of other articles saying exactly what I had expressed. I just was gonna let it go until all the sycophants kept chiming in with their uneducated responses like yours.Botch said:
I'm gonna take your last three days of desparate intranetz searches, to find this, as your "word".pgprescott said:https://harvestamericacues.com/2019/06/03/the-chef-title-earned-getting-it-straight/amp/This guys seems to echo my sentiments pretty closely. So don’t take my word for it, take his.
Word.
So I called him into my office. I showed him the answers he gave to some of the problems, and the solutions. I asked him to explain his answers.
With a straight face, he told me that I had told the class they could use any material they wanted to prepare for the exam (this was true), and that during his studying he had stumbled across these problems on the internet. And since he had a photographic memory, he had been able to memorize them.
So then I said, well, that does seem like a perfectly reasonable explanation. I took back his exam and the solutions, and I said since he had a photographic memory, surely he could reproduce the answer he had given to problem number 3 at the board in my office?
He said "you see, Professor, the thing about my photographic memory is... it's only temporary."
I gave him the option of presenting that argument to an honor council of his peers or just taking an F on the exam.
He took the F.
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Troll harder or smarter, please.pgprescott said:
So, you reported him? Or maybe Duke just wants the money from a dishonest grad student. Maybe his family is a big donor or a legacy?JohnInCarolina said:
Yes, you are right.pgprescott said:
If you had any nads you would have dropped him and reported him if you expected cheating. It’s not like you teach basket weaving.JohnInCarolina said:
As an educator, I am reminded of a student I once had. I was comparing some of his exam answers to the solution, and some of them were identical, line by line. My hunch was that he'd probably used Google to search for the problems during the exam.pgprescott said:
It’s precisely the opposite. I repeatedly stated I accepted Careys response but you sycophants just keep stirring the pot. I feel obligated to educate you all. As an educator surely you can understand not letting class out prior to completion of the lesson. No?JohnInCarolina said:
Everyone is surely impressed by your doubling, tripling, and then quadrupling down on this line of argument, when most of us figured you were just trying to be a d!ck to Nola.pgprescott said:
Found it a couple days ago along with a bunch of other articles saying exactly what I had expressed. I just was gonna let it go until all the sycophants kept chiming in with their uneducated responses like yours.Botch said:
I'm gonna take your last three days of desparate intranetz searches, to find this, as your "word".pgprescott said:https://harvestamericacues.com/2019/06/03/the-chef-title-earned-getting-it-straight/amp/This guys seems to echo my sentiments pretty closely. So don’t take my word for it, take his.
Word.
So I called him into my office. I showed him the answers he gave to some of the problems, and the solutions. I asked him to explain his answers.
With a straight face, he told me that I had told the class they could use any material they wanted to prepare for the exam (this was true), and that during his studying he had stumbled across these problems on the internet. And since he had a photographic memory, he had been able to memorize them.
So then I said, well, that does seem like a perfectly reasonable explanation. I took back his exam and the solutions, and I said since he had a photographic memory, surely he could reproduce the answer he had given to problem number 3 at the board in my office?
He said "you see, Professor, the thing about my photographic memory is... it's only temporary."
I gave him the option of presenting that argument to an honor council of his peers or just taking an F on the exam.
He took the F.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Insert blinking guy memeJohnInCarolina said:
Troll harder or smarter, please.pgprescott said:
So, you reported him? Or maybe Duke just wants the money from a dishonest grad student. Maybe his family is a big donor or a legacy?JohnInCarolina said:
Yes, you are right.pgprescott said:
If you had any nads you would have dropped him and reported him if you expected cheating. It’s not like you teach basket weaving.JohnInCarolina said:
As an educator, I am reminded of a student I once had. I was comparing some of his exam answers to the solution, and some of them were identical, line by line. My hunch was that he'd probably used Google to search for the problems during the exam.pgprescott said:
It’s precisely the opposite. I repeatedly stated I accepted Careys response but you sycophants just keep stirring the pot. I feel obligated to educate you all. As an educator surely you can understand not letting class out prior to completion of the lesson. No?JohnInCarolina said:
Everyone is surely impressed by your doubling, tripling, and then quadrupling down on this line of argument, when most of us figured you were just trying to be a d!ck to Nola.pgprescott said:
Found it a couple days ago along with a bunch of other articles saying exactly what I had expressed. I just was gonna let it go until all the sycophants kept chiming in with their uneducated responses like yours.Botch said:
I'm gonna take your last three days of desparate intranetz searches, to find this, as your "word".pgprescott said:https://harvestamericacues.com/2019/06/03/the-chef-title-earned-getting-it-straight/amp/This guys seems to echo my sentiments pretty closely. So don’t take my word for it, take his.
Word.
So I called him into my office. I showed him the answers he gave to some of the problems, and the solutions. I asked him to explain his answers.
With a straight face, he told me that I had told the class they could use any material they wanted to prepare for the exam (this was true), and that during his studying he had stumbled across these problems on the internet. And since he had a photographic memory, he had been able to memorize them.
So then I said, well, that does seem like a perfectly reasonable explanation. I took back his exam and the solutions, and I said since he had a photographic memory, surely he could reproduce the answer he had given to problem number 3 at the board in my office?
He said "you see, Professor, the thing about my photographic memory is... it's only temporary."
I gave him the option of presenting that argument to an honor council of his peers or just taking an F on the exam.
He took the F.
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@JohnInCarolina on any Friday night of Butt Blast, you earned the title of Pizza Doctor.
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The ones who completed rigorous apprenticeships under various chefs until fully competent are in fact chefs.thetrim said: -
Thank you Steve, very kind of you, but you can just keep referring to me as “Your Excellency” !thetrim said:@JohnInCarolina on any Friday night of Butt Blast, you earned the title of Pizza Doctor."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
It is amazing how many trolls continue to surface on this forum!
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pgprescott said:
https://harvestamericacues.com/2019/06/03/the-chef-title-earned-getting-it-straight/amp/Legume said:I thought Pete was the horse.
here you go. Give it a read bean.Ok, I actually read it and I was a chef when I was in college, based on that article. It's basically a title that bestows value on an employee and defines his/her role in an organization. Nothing about formal school culinary school for the majority of the working chefs in that piece.Also read about 75% of that mashed.com article on celebrity chefs (until I got sick reading about celebrities) and none of them finished culinary school, most never even went to culinary school, and some didn't even study under someone. The common denominator is the title "Chef" and title "Celebrity", which do not seem to be related in any way outside of some level of commercial and popular success.Clearly you didn't read it otherwise you wouldn't have posted evidence contrary to your stated definition of the title being the same insofar as formal training as a doctor....and not in an honorary way.
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Anyway, the ability to deny it's day in the presence of a very visible sun is highly entertaining, so I guess I'll just enjoy the journey. You're driving man.
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"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
LOLOLOL
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Whatever, you already said you weren’t responsible for the menu. You just recreated canned recipes. But whatever the cool thing is for you. That is just one article I also posted clips from another outlining the training required for non school trained chefs. Having worked in the field you probably know what a real chefs responsibilities entailed. Like the menu. Like the food costs and profitability of the restaurant. Hiring. Firing. Here’s another article for you to ponder. Read the comments by the industry pros too. You must have chosen to only read parts of what I have written because I stated long ago that there is a non educational based way to becoming a chef, but it is a long and arduous journey. Like some above have stated, it may darn well produce even better chefs in some cases. It isn’t the experience you described. You describe the tip of the iceberg. Not nothing mind you and if you had stuck with it for another five years and made a point to go work for the right chefs to properly train you, I have no doubt you could have achieved the rank of chef. No doubt.nolaegghead said:pgprescott said:
https://harvestamericacues.com/2019/06/03/the-chef-title-earned-getting-it-straight/amp/Legume said:I thought Pete was the horse.
here you go. Give it a read bean.Ok, I actually read it and I was a chef when I was in college, based on that article. It's basically a title that bestows value on an employee and defines his/her role in an organization. Nothing about formal school culinary school for the majority of the working chefs in that piece.Also read about 75% of that mashed.com article on celebrity chefs (until I got sick reading about celebrities) and none of them finished culinary school, most never even went to culinary school, and some didn't even study under someone. The common denominator is the title "Chef" and title "Celebrity", which do not seem to be related in any way outside of some level of commercial and popular success.Clearly you didn't read it otherwise you wouldn't have posted evidence contrary to your stated definition of the title being the same insofar as formal training as a doctor....and not in an honorary way.https://www.reluctantgourmet.com/difference-cook-chef/The mashed article is poppycock.If you choose to call yourself chef just because you can’t or your buddies won’t let you admit it was wrong, that’s on you. -
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"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
I don't think this is possible for many on this forum. They simply have to try to prove themselves right and always get the last word in. Unfortunately they do this to their detriment and end up looking foolish to many others. It is amazing that we are arguing about who can be considered a chef.JohnInCarolina said:
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XL BGE and a KBQ.
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@QDude - there’s a joke in academia that probably applies here: the fights are so bitter because the stakes are so low."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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Serious question - when did Dr start implying only medical doctor? Growing up, I knew many people that went by Dr because they had PHDs, Dr of Divinity, etc. (even honorary)Lawrenceville, GA
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@buzzvol I was wondering that myself. It seems a courtesy to me to respect the degree they have attained. That said, many PhD's I know will just go by their name without the title. I've only met one or two pretentious aholes that insisted on the designation.Coleman, Texas
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@nolaegghead - I always knew that Malcolm John Rebennack Jr. was not a doctor but that doesn't stop me from enjoying his music. Suppose one could always apply stickers to cover up the "title" on his albums.Ubi panis, ibi patria.
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RIP, Dr John.
He does have an honorary degree from Tulane. But that's not where his nickname came from.
From wiki
In 1970, when Howard Smith asked him where the name "Dr. John the Night Tripper" came from, he responded, "Before that I was Professor Bizarre. Cats used to call me things like "Bishop" or "Governor" or somethin' but they started callin' me "Doctor" for a while, so I just hung it on myself for keeps."[23] On the earliest Dr. John records, the artist billing was "Dr. John, The Night Tripper", while the songwriting credits billed him as "Dr. John Creaux". Within a few years, the "Night Tripper" subtitle was dropped, and Rebennack resumed using his real name for writing and producing/arranging credits.
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Was it Pete that chased Dr BBQ off the forum?THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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In England, surgeons are addressed as Mr or Ms, instead of Dr.
Apparently, some people find *that* pretentious.
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If I had said “Pete chased Dr BBQ off the forum”, that could be a lie if not true.pgprescott said:
I asked a question. You chose not to answer it. I wasn’t around when Dr BBQ was on the forum.THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER -
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If I had said “Pete chased Dr BBQ off the forum”, that could be a lie if not true.pgprescott said:
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If I trim a brisket, does that qualify me for the “Mr.” status attributed to a surgeon, or do I need formal training?blind99 said:In England, surgeons are addressed as Mr or Ms, instead of Dr.
Apparently, some people find *that* pretentious.
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