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Maiden Voyage Brisket

Taking a run at my first packer-sized brisket today. I've been reading the play-by-play instructions from some of the pros on here, and Mr. Foghorn was kind enough to send me his detailed instructions. Coming up on 4.5 hours in, I'm starting to hit some questionable territory.

First, got up and did my best to trim up what was approximately a 14 pounder. There was a lot of very hard fat I had to excavate, as it felt to me like the type of fat that couldn't possible render out. I should have taken some pictures of it, but here is the rubbed slab before she went on. Just 50/50 course pepper and kosher salt. 


Put it on aiming to hold about 275. Was a notch under for a while, but because I have a history of seeing temps escalate 3+ hours into some cooks after holding well in the mid-200's previously, I tried not to tinker, thinking 265 was just fine and still warmer than many smoke their briskets, so it'll get done. Throughout all this, the dome temp was holding a couple of degrees higher than my grate temp, so this seemed positive.

Fell asleep longer than intended (1-year old has an ear infection and has thrown us all off a bit) and woke up a little while ago with the dome temp was holding at 275, but the grate registered 302. And for some reason the meat probe was reading over 190! (Yes, it is entirely possible my cheap double probe is not accurate. May be time for an upgrade...) Used an instant read and an old gauge thermometer to figure out that the meatiest part of the flat was actually about 168-171, and re-positioned the wireless probe which dropped its reading a bit, but very quickly again says 180. Closing down vents a little has brought the grate temp back to 270-275 (as I type it has dropped into low 260's for the last 10 mins or so but dome steady at 275) and meat probe holding at 180, with instant read about 170 in similar areas. 


Temp notwithstanding (in the picture I was probing the point a bit to see if i could recreate the 199 reading I saw when I woke up), it looks to be what Foghorn referred to as "reasonable, but not great, bark" so I'm not inclined to wrap it at this point.

My best thought is to keep an eye on the internal probe and occasionally keep checking with the instant read. When I'm good with the bark (or get concerned about drying out, perhaps), I'll wrap in butcher paper and then ride until I start probing for the tension release throughout.

Any other suggestions at this point? Red flags I should have heeded along the way/suggestions for next time? All appreciated!
LG BGE
Camp Chef 2xburner

Twin Cities, MN

Comments

  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    Looking very good.  I'd probably put a little foil under the corners toward the front of the grill.  They could easily get dried out.

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    Foghorn said:
    Looking very good.  I'd probably put a little foil under the corners toward the front of the grill.  They could easily get dried out.
    Many thanks. Corners covered and will keep an eye on them. Bark looks to be coming along a bit better. Will double check meat temps in a little bit to see where we are compared to the meat probe (which has read 182 for about 45 mins).
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    Good luck. Enjoy the journey, stay sober, and please keep us updated!
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  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    Just wrapped it at the 6.5 hour mark. My (very soon to be retired, it seems) internal probe reads 190, but instant read and manual gauge read about 175-178 in nearly the same exact spot, and others nearby. It feels quite tender all over, but I'm going to discount the internal probe a bit and use it only to estimate when to check with the other thermometers for the *actual* 190+ range before looking for the correct tenderness when probed. 

    Here's where the bark was when I wrapped:

    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • Looks good to me. Sounds like you are right on track
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • Your probe is probably not in The best spot to get a good reading anyway. I would go in from the side toward the back (make sure you are in the thickest part of the flat muscle below the point and below the ribbon of fat. It looks like you are in the fat ribbon right now and you definitely aren’t in the thickest part of the flat way up there. 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    Your probe is probably not in The best spot to get a good reading anyway. I would go in from the side toward the back (make sure you are in the thickest part of the flat muscle below the point and below the ribbon of fat. It looks like you are in the fat ribbon right now and you definitely aren’t in the thickest part of the flat way up there. 
    Thanks, Cen-Tex. I moved it down to where it was because of the high temps I was reading earlier. The fat ribbon was awfully large on this, and I think I kept hitting it putting it in from the side or was winding up in the point. I'll give re-positioning it as you suggest when I open the dome again.

    No matter how many well-developed instructions you read from guys on this site or videos you watch, it's amazing how much harder everything about a brisket gets when the lights come on and you take the field! 
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    @Foghorn @The Cen-Tex Smoker If you are wrapping, do you typically find you are able to easily probe through the paper when evaluating whether it's done? Do you ever unwrap to check?
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    Turned the temp down a little on the homestretch (I'd like to keep it in the cooler until shortly after 8 pm) but it's reading between 198-207 throughout now, and everywhere I insert a probe feels like butter. It's been just over 8 hours since it went on, which feels fast, but I trimmed out so much that it is probably closer to a 10 pounder than the 14 pounds she started at, so I'm guessing I'm not missing anything.

    Will pull it in just a few minutes and give it 30 on a cooling rack, and then into the cooler for what is going to be a very long rest!
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    I've had some hits and misses trying to probe through the paper.  I usually unwrap just enough to probe the brisket directly when I think it might be done - to make sure I am probing in the thickest part of the flat.  CenTex usually doesn't wrap.

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • carrda04 said:
    Your probe is probably not in The best spot to get a good reading anyway. I would go in from the side toward the back (make sure you are in the thickest part of the flat muscle below the point and below the ribbon of fat. It looks like you are in the fat ribbon right now and you definitely aren’t in the thickest part of the flat way up there. 
    Thanks, Cen-Tex. I moved it down to where it was because of the high temps I was reading earlier. The fat ribbon was awfully large on this, and I think I kept hitting it putting it in from the side or was winding up in the point. I'll give re-positioning it as you suggest when I open the dome again.

    No matter how many well-developed instructions you read from guys on this site or videos you watch, it's amazing how much harder everything about a brisket gets when the lights come on and you take the field! 
    It does not help that they are all different. Some have more fat, some are shaped differently, many of them are trimmed wrong at the plant. One 15lb brisket can cook completely different than a seemingly similar 15lb brisket. Once you get a few under your Belt you’ll  get the hang of it like any other cook. It’s not a hard process to learn but there are a lot of variables to work through while you are learning. 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • carrda04 said:
    @Foghorn @The Cen-Tex Smoker If you are wrapping, do you typically find you are able to easily probe through the paper when evaluating whether it's done? Do you ever unwrap to check?
    I probe right through the paper. Once wrapped, I never unwrap until it’s time to eat 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • carrda04 said:
    Turned the temp down a little on the homestretch (I'd like to keep it in the cooler until shortly after 8 pm) but it's reading between 198-207 throughout now, and everywhere I insert a probe feels like butter. It's been just over 8 hours since it went on, which feels fast, but I trimmed out so much that it is probably closer to a 10 pounder than the 14 pounds she started at, so I'm guessing I'm not missing anything.

    Will pull it in just a few minutes and give it 30 on a cooling rack, and then into the cooler for what is going to be a very long rest!
    It’s ready. It will hold in a cooler all day. That’s even better. I throw a bunch of wadded up butcher paper in when I have a longer hold time. It easily goes 6-8 hours and still piping hot when you crack it open. 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    carrda04 said:
    Turned the temp down a little on the homestretch (I'd like to keep it in the cooler until shortly after 8 pm) but it's reading between 198-207 throughout now, and everywhere I insert a probe feels like butter. It's been just over 8 hours since it went on, which feels fast, but I trimmed out so much that it is probably closer to a 10 pounder than the 14 pounds she started at, so I'm guessing I'm not missing anything.

    Will pull it in just a few minutes and give it 30 on a cooling rack, and then into the cooler for what is going to be a very long rest!
    It’s ready. It will hold in a cooler all day. That’s even better. I throw a bunch of wadded up butcher paper in when I have a longer hold time. It easily goes 6-8 hours and still piping hot when you crack it open. 
    Many thanks! She's on the rack now and will go in to the cooler in a few minutes. I'll cut a couple slices for my daughter before she goes to bed tonight and then my wife and I will feast!
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    Congrats.  Get us some pics of it sliced.

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • SmartyPantz
    SmartyPantz Posts: 145
    YOU DID IT!!! Well done!  I second the request for sliced pics!
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,808
    Did anyone mention "Money Shot?"   =)
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  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    Had to run the one-year old to urgent care and pick up a prescription for an ear infection that was causing a fever. So ended up being much longer before initial slicing. Felt like either I pulled a little too early or it just cooled off a bit too much. Or I suppose I didn’t trim quite enough, as a little bit of fat didn’t quite render. Flat was juicy. Decent bend, and passsd the pull test, so it was close, but the point had a bit more solid fat than is preferred. Much less of a smoke ring than I usually see when I do beef ribs, but the particular aesthetic isn’t as vital to me. She looked beautiful when I unwrapped and bark was delightful. 

    Definitely tasted great and lots more to work on for next time. Which makes a great first run, in my mind. Most important elements to work on are 1) temp control throughout cook; 2) prove placement and ultimate probing for fineness; and 3) probably shooting for a 2-4 hour test (or possible a better cooler!)

    Thanks to all for their help and encouragement! 

      
    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • carrda04
    carrda04 Posts: 83
    carrda04 said:
    Had to run the one-year old to urgent care and pick up a prescription for an ear infection that was causing a fever. So ended up being much longer before initial slicing. Felt like either I pulled a little too early or it just cooled off a bit too much. Or I suppose I didn’t trim quite enough, as a little bit of fat didn’t quite render. Flat was juicy. Decent bend, and passsd the pull test, so it was close, but the point had a bit more solid fat than is preferred. Much less of a smoke ring than I usually see when I do beef ribs, but the particular aesthetic isn’t as vital to me. She looked beautiful when I unwrapped and bark was delightful. 

    Definitely tasted great and lots more to work on for next time. Which makes a great first run, in my mind. Most important elements to work on are 1) temp control throughout cook; 2) prove placement and ultimate probing for fineness; and 3) probably shooting for a 2-4 hour test (or possible a better cooler!)

    Thanks to all for their help and encouragement! 

      
    Here was the unwrapped brisket. 

    LG BGE
    Camp Chef 2xburner

    Twin Cities, MN
  • StillH2OEgger
    StillH2OEgger Posts: 3,896
    Looks great from here!
    Stillwater, MN
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,808
    Great outcome right there.  Way to bring it home, especially for your first run.  
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,227
    Dude. That looks great.  Don't be surprised if the next one isn't that good.

    Hope the 1 year old is doing better.

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • fishepa
    fishepa Posts: 211
    Looks great!
    War Damn Eagle!
  • RajunCajun
    RajunCajun Posts: 1,049
    Fanfriggintasticly done my friend.  Congrats on a job well done.
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