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"I’m not a fan" of the BGE
FanOfFanboys
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I'm Meathead Goldwyn of AmazingRibs and This Is How I Eat
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I’m not a fan. Don’t get me started. “Eggheads,” they call themselves—they’re like Krishnas. They worship this green God. And if you dare say anything about it—negative—you get death threats. It’s a fine oven, but it is not by any stretch of the imagination, a good grill. A good grill must be easily divided into two zones. Infrared radiation is vastly different than convection airflow, and you have to have both in a good grill. And it’s almost impossible to set up the Big Green Egg so that you can have two zones easily. You can do it but it’s a pain in the neck, and it’s very easy on a Weber Kettle. Plus it’s that big, thick, heavy ceramic. Once it heats up, it takes forever to cool down, and cooking is all about temperature control. I’ve done some wonderful pizzas it. I’ve baked breads on it. I’ll do smoked meats on it, but I wouldn’t grill a steak on it.
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I was just going to ask how you felt about the Green Egg.
I’m not a fan. Don’t get me started. “Eggheads,” they call themselves—they’re like Krishnas. They worship this green God. And if you dare say anything about it—negative—you get death threats. It’s a fine oven, but it is not by any stretch of the imagination, a good grill. A good grill must be easily divided into two zones. Infrared radiation is vastly different than convection airflow, and you have to have both in a good grill. And it’s almost impossible to set up the Big Green Egg so that you can have two zones easily. You can do it but it’s a pain in the neck, and it’s very easy on a Weber Kettle. Plus it’s that big, thick, heavy ceramic. Once it heats up, it takes forever to cool down, and cooking is all about temperature control. I’ve done some wonderful pizzas it. I’ve baked breads on it. I’ll do smoked meats on it, but I wouldn’t grill a steak on it.
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I know Aaron Franklin isn't a fan either. But those are two of my three favorite sources for all things food related (the guy from Food Lab being the other)
Boom -
Webber pays big bucks for that endorsement.Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
Two Rivers Farm
Moncure N.C. -
For the record, I wouldn't grill a steak on it either.Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
Large BGE. OONI 16, TOTO Washlet S550e (Now with enhanced Motherly Hugs!)
"If I wanted my balls washed, I'd go to the golf course!"
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I think it is almost perfect for the reverse sear aka the redneck sous vide that meathead himself preachesdmchicago said:For the record, I wouldn't grill a steak on it either.Boom -
I no longer have a BGE, though I had 3 at the same time at one point, but I have a KJ classic in black. Like a cousin.
I view the BGE and it's ilk as something that is 2nd best in almost everything but not the best in anything. But at the end of the day that versatility is EXACTLY why it is so great. Many of us do not have the time, money, space, and/or desire to own half dozen different tools just to be the best in every category.
"don't let perfection be the enemy of good"Boom -
grilled chicken on the weber, steak on the egg. maybe he just cooks 1/2 inch steaks
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
You can cook a steak fine on an egg but it’s easier on a kettle. I use my PK360 which I really like for steaks.dmchicago said:For the record, I wouldn't grill a steak on it either. -
I dried my socks on it once.
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easier to melt lead for fishing weights in an egg than a weber but truth be told one of these would be better.melting lead in an egg is like trying to boil water
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I have gravitated to sous vide for steaks. Just better IMHO. Not that RS sucks, have had some beautiful steaks that way. SV just suits me better.FanOfFanboys said:
I think it is almost perfect for the reverse sear aka the redneck sous vide that meathead himself preachesdmchicago said:For the record, I wouldn't grill a steak on it either.Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
Large BGE. OONI 16, TOTO Washlet S550e (Now with enhanced Motherly Hugs!)
"If I wanted my balls washed, I'd go to the golf course!"
Dennis - Austin,TX -
He's not a "fan" of BGE or ceramics but has a glowing review of KJ Classic II. Last time I checked, KJ's are ceramic.
Read the end of the review and they admit that they haven't cooked anything on KJ Classic II.
Review Method:
Looked Closely At ItWe have seen this product up close and we have also gathered info from the manufacturer, owners, and other reliable sources.
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These kind of articles drive me nuts. If it wasn't for the weight / fragility / cool down period Kamado's would be more popular at SCA competitions.
None of these are issues in my backyard. People that have never owned an Egg opinion doesn't matter much to me. There is no way a kettle steak tastes better than a reverse sear on the egg. I would know, I've done hundreds on each as I am sure many of you have. An EggSpander isn't difficult to use.
Leave this person to go manage the grease fire on their new Smoke Fire -
Here's an often quoted source for a similar phrase:FanOfFanboys said:I no longer have a BGE, though I had 3 at the same time at one point, but I have a KJ classic in black. Like a cousin.
I view the BGE and it's ilk as something that is 2nd best in almost everything but not the best in anything. But at the end of the day that versatility is EXACTLY why it is so great. Many of us do not have the time, money, space, and/or desire to own half dozen different tools just to be the best in every category.
"don't let perfection be the enemy of good"
Sergey Gorshkov was an admiral of the fleet of the Soviet Union. Twice awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union, he oversaw the expansion of the Soviet Navy into a global force during the Cold War.
Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of 'Good Enough'" ("Лучшее - враг хорошего") which is reputed to have hung on the wall of his office as a motto. FWIW and totally OT.
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
Meathead is a bonehead.
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XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP PitBoss Navigator 850G 11/25
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This comment is about me alone. One of the reasons I am a much better cook is the egg. I owned 4 Webbers over the years and never was able to cook great food. Since getting my eggs it's easier and I am better at it. You guys are also a big part of that. Webber's require too much attention.Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
Two Rivers Farm
Moncure N.C. -
lousubcap said:
Here's an often quoted source for a similar phrase:FanOfFanboys said:I no longer have a BGE, though I had 3 at the same time at one point, but I have a KJ classic in black. Like a cousin.
I view the BGE and it's ilk as something that is 2nd best in almost everything but not the best in anything. But at the end of the day that versatility is EXACTLY why it is so great. Many of us do not have the time, money, space, and/or desire to own half dozen different tools just to be the best in every category.
"don't let perfection be the enemy of good"
Sergey Gorshkov was an admiral of the fleet of the Soviet Union. Twice awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union, he oversaw the expansion of the Soviet Navy into a global force during the Cold War.
Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of 'Good Enough'" ("Лучшее - враг хорошего") which is reputed to have hung on the wall of his office as a motto. FWIW and totally OT.
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XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP PitBoss Navigator 850G 11/25
Tampa Bay, FL
EIB 6 Oct 95 -
love my sous vide so much I have two!dmchicago said:
I have gravitated to sous vide for steaks. Just better IMHO. Not that RS sucks, have had some beautiful steaks that way. SV just suits me better.FanOfFanboys said:
I think it is almost perfect for the reverse sear aka the redneck sous vide that meathead himself preachesdmchicago said:For the record, I wouldn't grill a steak on it either.Boom -
agreed. I am in the bottom 10% on this site but I had an infrared gas grill, still own a webber, and the food off my kamado is just drastically better. it just "fits" me morefrazzdaddy said:This comment is about me alone. One of the reasons I am a much better cook is the egg. I owned 4 Webbers over the years and never was able to cook great food. Since getting my eggs it's easier and I am better at it. You guys are also a big part of that. Webber's require too much attention.Boom -
Count me in the list of those who don't have the budget or the patio space for every toy. My Green Egg can do just about anything good enough with a little ingenuity. I wouldn't try to deep fry with it but I don't deep fry any way, Doctor's orders. I actually bake better with it than with the indoor hot box.
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What, in your opinion, makes it better beyond the convenience factor? I find that it lacks the flavor you get when reverse searing when grilling steak. SV versus sear to oven(or reverse sear using oven) is a wash, so it really depends on timing for me.dmchicago said:
I have gravitated to sous vide for steaks. Just better IMHO. Not that RS sucks, have had some beautiful steaks that way. SV just suits me better.FanOfFanboys said:
I think it is almost perfect for the reverse sear aka the redneck sous vide that meathead himself preachesdmchicago said:For the record, I wouldn't grill a steak on it either. -
I appreciate all kamados. I've only used the egg but I expect all of them to be similar enough. I used a kettle for years. It has its place but smoking is much better on the kamado. It is also much more efficient due to the ceramics. Heat retention is a benefit. I don't get why that is a negative for meathead. I've never used a stick burner and don't have time for them. They are also too ugly for my house. 😉XL BGE and Kamado Joe Jr.
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$speed51133 said:I appreciate all kamados. I've only used the egg but I expect all of them to be similar enough. I used a kettle for years. It has its place but smoking is much better on the kamado. It is also much more efficient due to the ceramics. Heat retention is a benefit. I don't get why that is a negative for meathead. I've never used a stick burner and don't havetime for them. They are also too ugly for my house. 😉Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
Two Rivers Farm
Moncure N.C. -
I have deep fried fish on the mini. Lid open, bottom vent wide open, cast iron Dutch oven with oil sitting on the grate. Works great.Gulfcoastguy said:Count me in the list of those who don't have the budget or the patio space for every toy. My Green Egg can do just about anything good enough with a little ingenuity. I wouldn't try to deep fry with it but I don't deep fry any way, Doctor's orders. I actually bake better with it than with the indoor hot box.___________________________________
LBGE,SBGE, and a Mini makes three......Sweet home Alabama........ Stay thirsty my friends .
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one grammatical note...Weber is spelled with (1) b.That is all...carry onP.S. I have 17 grills and one smoker (17 Webers). they all have a purpose
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But you live in Wisconsin!speed51133 said:I appreciate all kamados. I've only used the egg but I expect all of them to be similar enough. I used a kettle for years. It has its place but smoking is much better on the kamado. It is also much more efficient due to the ceramics. Heat retention is a benefit. I don't get why that is a negative for meathead. I've never used a stick burner and don't have time for them. They are also too ugly for my house. 😉
"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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I don’t know who would be leading the SWAT raid Doc Mary or the fire department.shtgunal3 said:
I have deep fried fish on the mini. Lid open, bottom vent wide open, cast iron Dutch oven with oil sitting on the grate. Works great.Gulfcoastguy said:Count me in the list of those who don't have the budget or the patio space for every toy. My Green Egg can do just about anything good enough with a little ingenuity. I wouldn't try to deep fry with it but I don't deep fry any way, Doctor's orders. I actually bake better with it than with the indoor hot box. -
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Ha! I have to get my shots in when I can being from MN!speed51133 said:Flagged that one for abuse!"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
Minnesota -
Where August is considered "bad ice fishing". Got it.✌WeberWho said:
Ha! I have to get my shots in when I can being from MN!speed51133 said:Flagged that one for abuse!"Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
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I cant stand "Meathead Goldwyn" or his advertisement website... But that's just me..
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