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R.I.P. Net Neutrality

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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,491
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    DMW said:  Not really. To be a competitive ISP in a market, you need fiber or cable from you to your customers. Most markets limit randomly stringing cable or digging trenches. Until 5G is here, starting a competitive ISP is not that easy.
    Unless we go completely free-for-all, like India:
     

     

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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,491
    edited December 2017
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    tenpenny_05 said:
    I hate to be the forever contrarian, but its not a political thing. Its a money thing. 
    I'm not so sure of that, Tenpenny.  The Virginia, and now the Alabama elections have scared the republicans, badly.  Add to that a probable SC decision against gerrymandering next summer (which won't redraw any lines for the 2018 election, and I don't know if the 2020 Census will be done in time to redraw them by the 2020 election).  The Orange One is continually sowing "doubt" about the MSM, and has threatened repeatedly to shut them down; you can bet that the right will be doing everything in their power (to include limitation of free speech via the 'net) to maintain their power beyond the losing hand they currently hold.  

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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    R.I.P. this thread.  Apparently Net Neutrality has been repealed.  Here.  Now.  

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,978
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    Some of you really do need to learn how to resize your pics before posting them, STAT
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,491
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of you really do need to learn how to resize your pics before posting them, STAT
    I'm guessing this was aimed at me, since I'm the only one who's posted a pic.  I grabbed it off of Googlez Images; what pixel size should I avoid?  :(
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Botch said:
    DMW said:  Not really. To be a competitive ISP in a market, you need fiber or cable from you to your customers. Most markets limit randomly stringing cable or digging trenches. Until 5G is here, starting a competitive ISP is not that easy.
    Unless we go completely free-for-all, like India:
     

     

    Cable guy reporting in:

    "F*ck".
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    Botch said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of you really do need to learn how to resize your pics before posting them, STAT
    I'm guessing this was aimed at me, since I'm the only one who's posted a pic.  I grabbed it off of Googlez Images; what pixel size should I avoid?  :(
    I think it was a limiting bandwidth joke.
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Botch said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of you really do need to learn how to resize your pics before posting them, STAT
    I'm guessing this was aimed at me, since I'm the only one who's posted a pic.  I grabbed it off of Googlez Images; what pixel size should I avoid?  :(
    @Botch, c'mon, for a picture guy, you should know the picture you posted is tiny.
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  • SoCal_Griller
    SoCal_Griller Posts: 516
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    nolaegghead said:
    tenpenny_05 said:
    nolaegghead said:
    If a chick-fil-a type family was running an ISP....
    This is a terrible example and barely a possibility.  But even if it were to happen, literally nothing is stopping you from going one more line down the list of ISPs and choose the Larry Flint type provider. 
    It is an unsavory example, but not out of the realm of possibility, unless you are suggesting that families with strong religious convictions are unable to start an ISP business. Most people don't have but one or two ISPs offering service to their homes.
    Most people don't have but one or two ISPs offering service to their homes.

     Therein lies the problem.  I only have one, and its via microwave.  Expensive.
    Simi Valley, California
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Different issue, but the assistance from the gubmnt to extend communication services to remote Americans is also getting eviscerated.  Time to move to a city or buy Penthouse magazines, I suppose.
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  • DMW
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    You can't make this $$$$$hit up...
    They/Them
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    DMW said:


    You can't make this $$$$$hit up...
    If they can find out who's behind it, and depending on who that is, this could be some serious collusion.
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,832
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    nolaegghead said:
    DMW said:


    You can't make this $$$$$hit up...
    If they can find out who's behind it, and depending on who that is, this could be some serious collusion.
    Truman is the networking CTO at Bloomberg. I think he might have the connections needed to get to the bottom of this.
    They/Them
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,491
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    nolaegghead said:
    Botch said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of you really do need to learn how to resize your pics before posting them, STAT
    I'm guessing this was aimed at me, since I'm the only one who's posted a pic.  I grabbed it off of Googlez Images; what pixel size should I avoid?  :(
    @Botch, c'mon, for a picture guy, you should know the picture you posted is tiny.
    Damn, now you guys are starting to sound like my dates um last date uh "a girl I once knew".   
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Botch said:
    nolaegghead said:
    Botch said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Some of you really do need to learn how to resize your pics before posting them, STAT
    I'm guessing this was aimed at me, since I'm the only one who's posted a pic.  I grabbed it off of Googlez Images; what pixel size should I avoid?  :(
    @Botch, c'mon, for a picture guy, you should know the picture you posted is tiny.
    Damn, now you guys are starting to sound like my dates um last date uh "a girl I once knew".   
    lol!
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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,530
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    If ever needed....

    A solution for this mess (if you have strong LTE service and an unlimited data plan).

    Load  DD-WRT on your router, then take said router and configure it to utilize your cell phones data connection.

    Tell your cable company ISP to "shuve the cable up their arse."

    I have sprint and I stream the ish out everything and I have yet to be "throttled" to the extent of not being able to use MOBDRO, KODI, or Terrarium TV. (all side loaded for my IPHONE 7).


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  • fishlessman
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    wow is the internet slow today, its like 2015 all over again =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
    edited December 2017
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    Net neutality.  Gotta love junior.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/15/donald-trump-jr-had-a-point-about-net-neutrality-then-he-took-it-too-far/
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  • HeavyG
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    "I'm sure this issue will get the Congressional hearings it deserves", he said sarcastically:

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171214/09383738811/two-separate-studies-show-that-vast-majority-people-who-said-they-support-ajit-pais-plan-were-fake.shtml#oo

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • nolaegghead
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    HeavyG said:
    "I'm sure this issue will get the Congressional hearings it deserves", he said sarcastically:

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171214/09383738811/two-separate-studies-show-that-vast-majority-people-who-said-they-support-ajit-pais-plan-were-fake.shtml#oo

    Hahaha...in the comments:

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      Roger Strong (profile), 14 Dec 2017 @ 2:17pm

      Re: Re: Re:

      You're both right.

      The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the President, so it's the politicians who get the blame. But that still that means that the FCC staff must implement and defend the policies of those political appointees, however corrupt.

      The FCC is like a beanbag chair. It's shaped by the ass of the last person who sat on it. Now Trump sits on it, leaving an Ajit Pei shaped impression.

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        Anonymous Coward, 15 Dec 2017 @ 6:36am

        Re: Re: Re: Re:

        Gotta remember to use that bean bag analogy some day
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  • KiterTodd
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    lkapigian said:
    Will this affect , ahem, adult browsing
    Yup...  :o

    Great job everybody, we just killed free online porn


    LBGE/Maryland
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  • HeavyG
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    KiterTodd said:
    lkapigian said:
    Will this affect , ahem, adult browsing
    Yup...  :o

    Great job everybody, we just killed free online porn


    This policy change could really have a huge impact on Trump voters since the Southern red states (aka Trump Country) are also the largest consumers of porn via the net.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • gmac
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    So am I gonna have to pay for the BGE forum and all of this awesome now?  That's all I care about. 
    Mt Elgin Ontario - just a Large.
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