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Ribs - 1, Botch - 0. Again.
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NOLA, That's the best and most helpful post I've seen on my short time here. Very thoughtful.Large BGE x2 Now we're cookin' in Dothan Al.
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nolaegghead said:Let me add, people who post their 1-0-0 ribs on the forum have lowered the bar, in many cases, because BBQ to their friends, even it it's not perfect, gains accolades. I'm my own worst critic. I would hope other people strive to be the same. And I think you are, Botch, that's a good trait in cooking better.

Visalia, Ca @lkapigian -
I cooked a rack of st. louis a couple of weeks ago turbo style and they were the best ribs I have cooked to date.
http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1207756/turbo-ribs#latest
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Great advice. Just because it's posted doesn't mean it's good. Good is also subjective.nolaegghead said:Let me add, people who post their 1-0-0 ribs on the forum have lowered the bar, in many cases, because BBQ to their friends, even it it's not perfect, gains accolades. I'm my own worst critic. I would hope other people strive to be the same. And I think you are, Botch, that's a good trait in cooking better. -
Strongly agree. The one thing you haven't tried is to just keep cooking them until they're done, regardless of the time or temperature.Focker said:Ride it 'til toothpick tender.... They're done when they're done...
Start a little higher on the temp so it won't be so long and you'll be tempted again to pull them too soon.
And @nolaegghead, FWIW I just buy whatever St. Louis cut ribs they have in my regular grocery store, so they're nothing fancy, and I don't foil them at all, and I LOVE my ribs. I've never tried a 3-1-1 because I like them so well the easy way that I just don't have any incentive to do something that's more work and trouble. Maybe my standards are lower than yours and you would hate my ribs, I dunno. All I know is that when I read that the OP first tested his ribs at a time I'd be sure they couldn't possibly be done, yet (at that temp 4h just isn't long enough), and they were tough, well, I think he just needs to leave them on longer.
All of that said, if what he wants is super tender, fall-off-the-bone ribs, yeah, wrapping in foil probably would be good. But like most people who replied, I think he just didn't let them cook until they were done. -
There was a recent post complaining about the thickness of the baby-back ribs from Costco - these would actually be better following what Nola said about dehydration. Also true, it's all about your preference. I like drier ribs, so I rarely wrap. However, I've found when I'm cooking ribs for a bunch of people, it's more likely that the crowd lean toward moist/tender ribs so I either wrap for a little bit or I spritz or I mop while cooking. I gravitate toward the skinny/charred ones, like the burnt ends of ribs, so maybe I'm just an outlier.THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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FWIW, when I 'm lazy ( or drank to much to babysit a pit) I will put a couple hours of smoke and color on, then into the oven @ 225 on a baking sheet and rack for hours- Nobody will ever knowVisalia, Ca @lkapigian
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But you know....lkapigian said:FWIW, when I 'm lazy ( or drank to much to babysit a pit) I will put a couple hours of smoke and color on, then into the oven @ 225 on a baking sheet and rack for hours- Nobody will ever know -
Busted I amDoubleEgger said:
But you know....lkapigian said:FWIW, when I 'm lazy ( or drank to much to babysit a pit) I will put a couple hours of smoke and color on, then into the oven @ 225 on a baking sheet and rack for hours- Nobody will ever know
Visalia, Ca @lkapigian -
Once again folks, thanks for all the replies. Learned two things:
1. Water is required to break down collagen? I didn't know that.
2. Ribs apparently have a lot of collagen. Didn't know that either.
I do know that good ribs can be made with the 1-0-0 method, because I've done it. Once. I'm thinking in retrospect, they must've been a good fatty set of ribs as Nola mentioned. I will give them one or two more shots.
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