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New Smokeware temp gauge low by 80 degrees?

eightyfive
eightyfive Posts: 125
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IGrill says 400. Smokeware says 320. 
Fight to the death? Who's right? 
Educate me in calibration 
BGE L, Minimax, iGrill 2, Kick Ash Basket, CGS AR,  various and sundry overpriced accessories...
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
     Are these temperatures being taken from the same spot or is one being taken from the Dome and the other is being taken from the grate level?
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • eightyfive
    eightyfive Posts: 125
    One from dome and one grate level. But my Maverick was always fairly close - not this far off? 
    BGE L, Minimax, iGrill 2, Kick Ash Basket, CGS AR,  various and sundry overpriced accessories...
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  • SemolinaPilchard
    SemolinaPilchard Posts: 1,282
    Put the tips in a boiling pot of water, should read 212.
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    eightyfive said:
    One from dome and one grate level. But my Maverick was always fairly close - not this far off? 
    You can't compare them unless you put them in the same place at the same time.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    edited December 2016
    Your always going to have 2 different measurements from grate and dome. 

    bring a pot of water to a rolling boil.  Get a pair of needle nose pliers and stick the probe into the water by utilizing the pliers so you don't burn your damn hands.. do this for each of your thermometers so you can get three different reasons..   obviously do this one at a time .  you should read 212° +\-.. 
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    If your smokeware is off by 80deg,  them guys will replace it no questions asked..   I don't think those thermometers can't be calibrated. 
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • eightyfive
    eightyfive Posts: 125
    Will try the boiling water.  But still a bigger differential than used to.  Hmmmmm.  So now the question becomes - which is the one to reference as the standard. Excuse my noob questions. 
    BGE L, Minimax, iGrill 2, Kick Ash Basket, CGS AR,  various and sundry overpriced accessories...
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    edited December 2016
    Keep us updated 
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 22,083
    Temps from grate and dome come closer as a low and slow progesses.

    Grate on mine run ~50deg hotter than dome for a few hours.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • Eggdicted_Dawgfan
    Eggdicted_Dawgfan Posts: 1,912
    eightyfive said:
    Will try the boiling water.  But still a bigger differential than used to.  Hmmmmm.  So now the question becomes - which is the one to reference as the standard. Excuse my noob questions. 
    I would suggest go with the dome temp as you will most likely always have the dome probe in the egg. 
    Snellville, GA


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  • SmokingPiney
    SmokingPiney Posts: 2,319
    edited December 2016
    Cook to one or another with temp. 

    I always cook to dome temp unless I use my Flame Boss for a long low and slow cook. There is always a difference in dome vs FB temp, but I go with the FB temp for the cook and ALWAYS go with meat IT. 

    For all cooks, we're aiming for meat IT for to check for doneness. This is the true temp to use. 
    Living the good life smoking and joking
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    If your smokeware is off by 80deg,  them guys will replace it no questions asked..   I don't think those thermometers can't be calibrated. 
    The website says they can't.... I calibrated mine though.  At least I think I did.  It was reading about 40 degrees off in boiling water, and now it's not.

    Kansas City, Missouri
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    Mini Egg

    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" - Gandalf


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  • Elijah
    Elijah Posts: 883
    eightyfive said:
    Will try the boiling water.  But still a bigger differential than used to.  Hmmmmm.  So now the question becomes - which is the one to reference as the standard. Excuse my noob questions. 

    Calibrate to the one that reads 212 in the boiling water :)
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    bhedges1987 said:
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    If your smokeware is off by 80deg,  them guys will replace it no questions asked..   I don't think those thermometers can't be calibrated. 
    The website says they can't.... I calibrated mine though.  At least I think I did.  It was reading about 40 degrees off in boiling water, and now it's not.
    So you can calibrate the smokeware thermos?  I just got mine last week and I noticed that it has a little nut behind the head but everywhere I've read it says you cannot calibrate them and I don't want to go turning them  if I don't have to 
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • smbishop
    smbishop Posts: 3,062
    Mine is 10 degrees off in boiling water.  Wasn't successful in turning the nut.  I just adjust by 10 degrees...
    Southlake, TX and Cowhouse Creek - King, TX.  2 Large, 1 Small and a lot of Eggcessories.
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  • eightyfive
    eightyfive Posts: 125
     Nope. Off 25 degrees in boiling water.  Guess I'll call them. Shucks. 
    BGE L, Minimax, iGrill 2, Kick Ash Basket, CGS AR,  various and sundry overpriced accessories...
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  • Jupiter Jim
    Jupiter Jim Posts: 3,351

    Your overthinking this 50-60 degrees hi or low will have very little effect unless your trying to keep a low temp like 225 for an overnight low and slow.

    Back when I was new at Egging I was to critical about temp, always chasing it to keep it at an exact temp like 250. Now if it settles in at 260 dome temp or 240 I don't care because if it's high it's going to cook faster if low it's slower. I never know what the grate temp is I just use dome temp. Hope this helps.

    I'm only hungry when I'm awake!

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  • JohnnyTarheel
    JohnnyTarheel Posts: 6,629
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    bhedges1987 said:
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    If your smokeware is off by 80deg,  them guys will replace it no questions asked..   I don't think those thermometers can't be calibrated. 
    The website says they can't.... I calibrated mine though.  At least I think I did.  It was reading about 40 degrees off in boiling water, and now it's not.
    So you can calibrate the smokeware thermos?  I just got mine last week and I noticed that it has a little nut behind the head but everywhere I've read it says you cannot calibrate them and I don't want to go turning them  if I don't have to 
    Some of there's you can and some you can't. My feeling is all should be able to calibrate. 
    Charlotte, NC - Large BGE 2014, Maverick ET 733, Thermopen, Nest, Platesetter, Woo2 and Extender w/Grid, Kick Ash Basket, Pizza Stone, SS Smokeware Cap, Blackstone 36"
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    JohnnyTarheel said:
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    bhedges1987 said:
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    If your smokeware is off by 80deg,  them guys will replace it no questions asked..   I don't think those thermometers can't be calibrated. 
    The website says they can't.... I calibrated mine though.  At least I think I did.  It was reading about 40 degrees off in boiling water, and now it's not.
    So you can calibrate the smokeware thermos?  I just got mine last week and I noticed that it has a little nut behind the head but everywhere I've read it says you cannot calibrate them and I don't want to go turning them  if I don't have to 
    Some of there's you can and some you can't. My feeling is all should be able to calibrate. 
    How can you tell if you can calibrate the thermo?
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 22,083
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    JohnnyTarheel said:
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    bhedges1987 said:
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    If your smokeware is off by 80deg,  them guys will replace it no questions asked..   I don't think those thermometers can't be calibrated. 
    The website says they can't.... I calibrated mine though.  At least I think I did.  It was reading about 40 degrees off in boiling water, and now it's not.
    So you can calibrate the smokeware thermos?  I just got mine last week and I noticed that it has a little nut behind the head but everywhere I've read it says you cannot calibrate them and I don't want to go turning them  if I don't have to 
    Some of there's you can and some you can't. My feeling is all should be able to calibrate. 
    How can you tell if you can calibrate the thermo?


    Height of the nut on the back.

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 19,780
    The older SW thermos could be calibrated, the newer ones can't be.

     Remember to account for the elevation you live at, since the boiling point of water is 212°F at sea level. 

    If your thermo is off, Matt at SmokeWare will take care of you. Don't worry. 

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    Well awe be damn!
     I got my new smokeware Thermo last week due to the special that they were having and I haven't used it one time but I decided to do a water boil test since this topic in the red came up.  Add a full rolling boil I was looking at 160°.
     Stuck my Thermapen in the water it read 211. Stuck my DOT thermo in the water it was reading 211 as well 
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  • eightyfive
    eightyfive Posts: 125
    I think I'm going to call them. 
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 22,083
    EggHeadinFlorida said:
    Well awe be damn!
     I got my new smokeware Thermo last week due to the special that they were having and I haven't used it one time but I decided to do a water boil test since this topic in the red came up.  Add a full rolling boil I was looking at 160°.
     Stuck my Thermapen in the water it read 211. Stuck my DOT thermo in the water it was reading 211 as well 
    Sounds like a problem for sure!

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    caliking said:

    If your thermo is off, Matt at SmokeWare will take care of you. Don't worry. 
    Truth.
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892
    I started a new thread "Smokeware Thermo issue"
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