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Question for the board....How do I get "raised direct"? Do I need one of those spiders or woo?

MikeHLoudon
MikeHLoudon Posts: 38
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any help appreciated.  
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    Anything non combustible to raise the grid is fine.
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • Battleborn
    Battleborn Posts: 3,697
    That is an option, but I use 4 bolts and 2 grids. 
    Las Vegas, NV


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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    This is what I use on my LBGE. It works equally as well for raised indirect. 

    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,806
    Pound three aluminum canned beers.  Set the empties on the fire ring with grid on top.  If a bit unstable due to the beers-get a second grid (weber has quite a selection: and put the cans on the gird on the fire ring then use the second grid at around gasket level.  Also, many use bolts and washers or fire bricks before venturing into the after market toy store.  FWIW-
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    I used 4 SS carriage  bolts, 4 SS flat washers, 4 SS nuts and 4 SS round cap nuts. 
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,597
    two fire bricks and a second grate works for me, i just use a cheap carbon steel grate from home depot on the fire ring, stand two bricks on opposite sides and place the cooking grid on top, did this for a dozen or so years before upgrading, but it cooked the same
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • THEBuckeye
    THEBuckeye Posts: 4,232
    I started with three bricks on the fire ring and eventually bought a PS2 Woo from Ceramic Grill Store. 
    New Albany, Ohio 

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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Battleborn said:
    That is an option, but I use 4 bolts and 2 grids. 
    Yep, except three bolts is plenty and impossible to wobble. Also, you can place a pizza stone on the lower grid and you have indirect. No platesetter needed.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

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  • MikeHLoudon
    MikeHLoudon Posts: 38
    THEBuckeye said:
    I started with three bricks on the fire ring and eventually bought a PS2 Woo from Ceramic Grill Store. 
    Crap, I just looked and they don't have that for the XL...looks like they have something somewhat similar.  I might just make my own from a spare grid and bolts
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  • SemolinaPilchard
    SemolinaPilchard Posts: 1,282
    This what I made for raised direct. For an xl I would have used the flat bar that is just a tad larger. Both of the big box stores have flat bar.

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  • tgs2401
    tgs2401 Posts: 424
    Three bricks on the fire ring to bring the grid up.
    One large BGE in Louisville, KY.
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  • KiterTodd
    KiterTodd Posts: 2,466
    Started with beer cans balanced on the fire ring.
    Then beer cans on top of a second grate.
    Then I upgraded to regular old red bricks (still use those once in a while)
    Then I got the AR.

    Cook results were the same for all of those.  Sometimes I still use the bricks even though I have the AR because I want to use a full size grate at gasket level.  If I want a full size grate with the AR, I'm an inch or so higher...sometimes I want to be closer to the flame, and sometimes I need the height for larger meats. 

    Keep it simple to start with.  Everybody has a few cans around the house...
    LBGE/Maryland
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  • Action_Hank
    Action_Hank Posts: 54
    edited October 2016
    tgs2401 said:
    Three bricks on the fire ring to bring the grid up.
    This is what I do.  14 cents a piece at Lowes and it made a big difference on my chicken game
    "It's not the beard on the outside that counts, its the beard on the INSIDE."

    LBGE   -   Lexington, KY
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Careful with bricks on fire ring. If one falls into the hole, you could be looking at a new $firebox$. If you're going to use bricks, consider a second grid. Place one on the fire ring,  then the bricks, then the second grid. If you knock a brick over, no problem.

    I like my 17+" Weber grid with carriage bolts. Been using it for a couple of years now.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

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  • SemolinaPilchard
    SemolinaPilchard Posts: 1,282
    Over the years I have heard that regular bricks sometimes explode in the egg. It is recommended to use fire bricks.
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    Just spend $50 and get the pswoo

    Kansas City, Missouri
    Large Egg
    Mini Egg

    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" - Gandalf


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  • tikigriller
    tikigriller Posts: 1,389
    bhedges1987 said:
    Just spend $50 and get the pswoo
    ^^^^^^. This. When it is all said and done you really aren't saving much with all the work around and this product works and works well. It's a good investment into you cooking. 
    Just bought an Egg?  Here is what you get to look forward to now:

    Plate Setter, FlameBoss 200, Spider, PSWOO-CI, Additional Rig Shelf for dome cooking, Thermapen, iGrill2, Cast Iron, Blackstone, Cooking Accessories for the Blackstone, Cover for the Egg and the Blackstone, shopping for Rub like a fine wine or IPA, and a new fascination with lump and what brand is the best-all to be debated every Friday Night.  Next desires-Joetisceriie, Adjustable Rig, Grillmates, table and more eggs

    Livermore, California
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  • xfire_ATX
    xfire_ATX Posts: 1,184
    bhedges1987 said:
    Just spend $50 and get the pswoo
    Actually was about to go that route and decided as much frustration as I have with the Platesetter I am going to get the Woo and 1/2 stones.  Then I can cook as I do now, raised direct, raised full or 1/2 indirect.

    Actually since I do to N Dallas often enough I am just going to go the store and decide in person if this is right or the AR.  On paper (web screen) I get the AR and what it does, I just like the overall simplicity of the WOO.
    XLBGE, LBGE, Charbroil Gas Grill, Weber Q200, Old Weber Kettle, Rectec RT-B380, Yeti 65, Yeti Hopper 20, RTIC 20, RTIC 20 Soft Side - Too many drinkware vessels to mention.

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    Just Vote- What if you could choose "none of the above" on an election ballot? Millions of Americans do just that, in effect, by not voting.  The result in 2016: "Nobody" won more counties, more states, and more electoral votes than either candidate for president. 
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    I use 3 fire bricks setting on the fire ring - cheap easy
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    bhedges1987 said:
    Just spend $50 and get the pswoo
    tikigriller said:
    bhedges1987 said:
    Just spend $50 and get the pswoo
    ^^^^^^. This. When it is all said and done you really aren't saving much with all the work around and this product works and works well. It's a good investment into you cooking. 
    You guys are right, of course. If I had a dollar for every time I saved a lousy 30 bucks by Macgyvering something like this, I'd be a wealthy man. =)

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

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  • keepervodeflame
    keepervodeflame Posts: 353
    Yeah, I have to agree with dropping a little change to get something that not only works but works extremely well, with ease, and quality functionality. The CGS AR will lift a grate almost 7" above the felt and last probably longer than either you or I will. Well worth the shekels IMO. 
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  • Grillmagic
    Grillmagic Posts: 1,600
    3 five inch clay pots and a weber 18 inch grate work for me on my XL
    Charlotte, Michigan XL BGE
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  • JacksDad
    JacksDad Posts: 538
    lkapigian said:
    I use 3 fire bricks setting on the fire ring - cheap easy
    Me too. This is from this morning, chicken thighs and roasted cauliflower. Three bricks wrapped in foil, set on the fire ring. Just have to be a little careful they don't fall into the charcoal, but I find once the grill is set on them, they don't really move. 


    Large BGE -- New Jersey

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  • abpgwolf
    abpgwolf Posts: 564
    I agree, the products from the CGS are well worth the money. My woo hangs off the side of my XL and gets used all the time. Yes, you can make a workaround for less money, but you won't likely find anything that works as well.

    Lititz, PA – XL BGE

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  • THEBuckeye
    THEBuckeye Posts: 4,232
    For the record, I do most of my direct cooks raised w/ the PSWoo 2. Burgers, Spatch, Wings, Steaks. 
    New Albany, Ohio 

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  • Coul
    Coul Posts: 111
    I use The Lifter from Smokeware. I think it was 25 bucks. much easier than assembling and disassembling bolts all the time or dealing with bricks. 
    LBGE circa 2016
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  • yljkt
    yljkt Posts: 799
    I have 3 fire bricks heavily wrapped in foil I use for my medium. The foil provides a slight cushion if one falls in. Nothing broke yet. 

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  • DaveRichardson
    DaveRichardson Posts: 2,324
    I've done the big 3 mentioned here.....  Beer Cans, Firebricks, and the DIY Second grid with SS hardware.  All 3 worked great, er grate.....

    LBGE since 2014

    Griffin, GA 

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  • EggHeadinFlorida
    EggHeadinFlorida Posts: 892

    SemolinaPilchard said:
    This what I made for raised direct. For an xl I would have used the flat bar that is just a tad larger. Both of the big box stores have flat bar.


    How did you bend these? 
    What are the screws for?
    does this sit on edge of firebox, then stack grate or PS on top?
    XL bge, Mini max & 36 BS Griddle.
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  • cheeaa
    cheeaa Posts: 364
    Am i the only one that doesnt worry about it and keeps the grid where it is? Its already raised enough imo
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