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Brisket and the FTC- if you use butcher paper at the end of the cook do you trade it for foil?
lousubcap
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At the end of the brisket cook I don't use foil or butcher paper to close out the cook. But for those who use the paper, do you remove the paper and then wrap in foil (after the cool-down period) for the FTC or are you a BPTC (butcher paper, towel, cooler) for the duration and any insights?
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I stay with the paper until the end. However I will sometimes wrap the whole thing in foil just to keep the mess in the cooler to a minimum. But it certainly isn't necessary. And more often than not, I just go with the paper.

This is actually akin to a shaved vs an unshaven pubic area.Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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Sometime I just wrap a fresh wrap of paper around the oily paper instead of foil.

Sometimes I do nothing at all.Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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I ride the paper all the way through. I wrap the existing paper prior to placing in a towel, then place in the cooler."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
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If cooking in a stick burner, I use paper. For any FTC, I use foil.
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after foiling I put it in a clean trash bag prior to the cooler so that i don't have to clean the cooler or towel.Richmond and Mathews County, VA. Large BGE, Weber gas, little Weber charcoal. Vintage ManGrates. Little reddish portable kamado that shall remain nameless here. Very Extremely Stable Genius.
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@SGH. With the butcher paper do you ever experienced the fat cap sticking to the paper? My last couple were wrapped at 165 and when I went to slice after the resting phase the paper tore of the fat cap and the little bark that was on it....Milton, GA
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I haven't. However, I am very, very careful when I unwrap. I slowly and methodically remove the paper. If you just snatch it off, it will certainly leave a blotchy spot. Just take your time and ease the paper off with care. This brisket was cooked in paper. As you can see, the bark remained fully intact and unaltered.GoooDawgs said:@SGH. With the butcher paper do you ever experienced the fat cap sticking to the paper? My last couple were wrapped at 165 and when I went to slice after the resting phase the paper tore of the fat cap and the little bark that was on it....
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Interesting...I'm thinking I may not be getting enough airflow between my PS, drip pan and grate. With just a 1/8" between drip pan and grate, could that be the issue I'm having? Or should I raise the grate?SGH said:
I haven't. However, I am very, very careful when I unwrap. I slowly and methodically remove the paper. If you just snatch it off, it will certainly leave a blotchy spot. Just take your time and ease the paper off with care. This brisket was cooked in paper. As you can see, the bark remained fully intact and unaltered.GoooDawgs said:@SGH. With the butcher paper do you ever experienced the fat cap sticking to the paper? My last couple were wrapped at 165 and when I went to slice after the resting phase the paper tore of the fat cap and the little bark that was on it....
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It certainly could be. A couple of questions. Is the bottom of your brisket ending up undercooked? Are you having to flip flop the brisket to get it to cook even? Or, does the top half of your brisket seem more throughly cooked than the bottom half? If your answers are yes, then you have a heat and air flow distribution problem. If no, then probably not. With that said, a large pan that is to close can certainly cause cool spots.GoooDawgs said:Interesting...I'm thinking I may not be getting enough airflow between my PS, drip pan and grate. With just a 1/8" between drip pan and grate, could that be the issue I'm having? Or should I raise the grate?
Its kind of hard to diagnose an issue without being able to actually see the setup and the end result. However I will say this, I'm one of the ones who prefers not to use a drip pan in the BGE when cooking brisket or clod. Space is so limited and crowded that I seem to get better results without the pan when cooking real large cuts. Again, that is simply my opinion and what works best for me. Unless you are using the drippings for something, try it without the pan and see what you think.Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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Dang @SGH - you let all that rendered fat just roll on to the platesetter and then find its way to the lump? But whatever works...Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.
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Yes sir, I do. Never had an issue with it thus far brother Cap.lousubcap said:Dang @SGH - you let all that rendered fat just roll on to the platesetter and then find its way to the lump? But whatever works...Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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Dumb question ... waxy side of butcher paper facing out?canuckland
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Unwaxed butcher paper.Canugghead said:Dumb question ... waxy side of butcher paper facing out?They/Them
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@SGH here's my current setup. If the bottom of the brisket is not forming a bark, I'm guessing there's nothing stopping the juices from running out when its in the paper, towel, cooler. Would you agree?
Drip pan is 20 inches wide, 2 inches tall.
I think next time I need to raise the grid a few inches...
Milton, GA
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Dang @GooDawgs, that egg looks too clean to cook a good brisket - you even have your complete felt gasket!

Unwaxed butcher paper breathes - kind of like GoreTex(R), so you end up keeping a bit more moisture in the brisket. Using waxed butcher paper, the wax seals itself kind of shut so that keeps even more moisture in the brisket but fat renders away and soaks the paper just like unwaxed butcher paper. Foil, is like putting on the Helly-Hansen(R) rain gear - ain't nothin' getting past that barrier in either direction.
I've tried all three methods and in my experimentation and experience, I like the unwaxed butcher paper best, followed by the waxed butcher paper, and I do not like the results from the foil while on the BGE.
Once the brisket comes off the BGE, the foil does keep the towels and the cooler cleaner, but that never was a concern of mine.
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@smokeybreeze I just installed my new base 2 days ago. Previous one cracked and havent gotten a chance to put my rutland on - hoping to do it this week.
My question was more in terms of airflow and potentially too much surface area/blockage with the drip pan.Milton, GA
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My opinion is that you need to eliminate the drip pan and raise the grate.
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That's quite a tight fit-I am not into running w/o an air-gapped pan for brisket cooks given the rendering I get (maybe I wimp out on the trim job). That said, you need more of a gap below the protein. As mentioned, no pan,new smaller (vertical clearance) pan or elevate the grid. Any of which should bring it home. FWIW-Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.
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JethroVA said:after foiling I put it in a clean trash bag prior to the cooler so that i don't have to clean the cooler or towel.
Thanks for that tip. never thought of it.Medium BGE, Japanese Konro, NOLA proud. -
What is with the Towel? What is ultimately happening with a Brisket that the FTC is such an important part of the cook? Everyone looked at me like I had lost it when I was wrapping mine up like a little baby.....Just bought an Egg? Here is what you get to look forward to now:
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I think that paper should be used along with a high temp cook. 275-300. Also, I don't wrap until the brisket is already getting that nice heavy brown/mahogany bark to it. Then, just throw it in the cooler in the original paper.
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I've never seen the bottom of a brisket !!!!
My eyes usually stay glued to the top bark and juices flowing from within!!
I use the exact setup as GoooDawgs and am completely satisfied with the results.
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The towel is used for insulation purposes.
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tikigriller said:What is with the Towel? What is ultimately happening with a Brisket that the FTC is such an important part of the cook? Everyone looked at me like I had lost it when I was wrapping mine up like a little baby.....
You don't need the cooler or towel unless you are resting for extended periods for meal timing.
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