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Sous Vide

So since I picked up the egg I've been in this continuous vortex of buying accessories for my green buddy. I've read a ton about the sous vide machine's and put one in my checkout cart a time or two, even drunk, and not pulled the trigger.

Why? Because I don't think i can make a better steak than I've done a hundred times using the reverse sear method. Perfect amount of smoke, super tender, and great sear. The perfect steak in my mind.

So convince me to try the Amazon Prime 1 click. Will I miss the smoke?
Highland, MI

L BGE, Primo, and a KJ Jr

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  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    It's not just the steak, although I don't miss the smoke as I get edge to edge perfect temp and a great crust, but all the other stuff. Sweet potatoes, carrots, bacon... I've just scratched the surface. 
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Love my Anova unit.  Applies to all foods and a fun adventure.  It'll come into play on our 100 day dry age.  Check out chefsteps.  Given that, I'm a SV newbie.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • 20stone
    20stone Posts: 1,961
    So since I picked up the egg I've been in this continuous vortex of buying accessories for my green buddy. I've read a ton about the sous vide machine's and put one in my checkout cart a time or two, even drunk, and not pulled the trigger.

    Why? Because I don't think i can make a better steak than I've done a hundred times using the reverse sear method. Perfect amount of smoke, super tender, and great sear. The perfect steak in my mind.

    So convince me to try the Amazon Prime 1 click. Will I miss the smoke?
    If you can bang out perfect steaks every time, you don't need a sous vide.... for steaks. 
    However, it does make steaks pretty easy. 

    It does, however, dominate on two kinds of food:
    1. Low fat stuff, like chicken breast, where the SV allows you to hold a precise low temp for a long time so that it is safe to eat, but perfectly tender
    2. Tough stuff, like beef cheek, where the SV lets you cook in the meat's juices for hours and hours and hours. 
    Steaks are a bonus. 


    (now only 16 stone)

    Joule SV
    GE induction stove
    Gasser by the community pool (currently unavailable)
    Scale (which one of my friends refuses to use)
    Friends with BGEs and myriad other fired devices (currently unavail IRL)
    Occasional access to a KBQ and Webber Kettle
    Charcuterie and sourdough enthusiast
    Prosciuttos in an undisclosed location

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,151
    I only use the SV for veggies and reheating leftover pork and brisket. It's worth it just for that alone. 
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    I only use the SV for veggies and reheating leftover pork and brisket. It's worth it just for that alone. 
    And that's because all other applications exceed his skillet.  Believe in you!
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • Appreciate the input so far, good stuff. We make a lot of great things on the egg, but steak seems to be the go to. Always looking to expand. 


    Highland, MI

    L BGE, Primo, and a KJ Jr
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    Speaking of tough. There are a couple of places near me that sell whole steak portions. Strips, rib eye. But they are only select, and often tough. 60 hours at 135, they are ready for a sear and often end up as tender as can be. And the jus from the bag is great.

    Short ribs for 72 hours are a revelation.

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  • blind99
    blind99 Posts: 4,974
    FWIW they go on sale fairly often. The anova wifi unit was down to $150 recently.  Camelcamelcamel will track it for you and send you an email.
    Chicago, IL - Large and Small BGE - Weber Gasser and Kettle
  • Theophan
    Theophan Posts: 2,656
    Appreciate the input so far, good stuff. We make a lot of great things on the egg, but steak seems to be the go to. Always looking to expand. 
    Check out this photo that I borrowed from @Slabotnick, that he cooked reverse sear.  I DEFY anyone to do better edge-to-edge gloriousness with sous vide!  I might buy one someday for something other than steak, but I just don't believe that mostly cooking a steak in a plastic bag in a water bath can possibly taste as good as a steak 100% cooked over wood charcoal.


  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,179
    edited August 2016
    Steak is my least favorite thing to do with SV. It's the delicate stuff like chicken, pork tenderloin, fish, veggies etc that are really different with SV. And call me when you can do 72 hour fork tender med rare beef ribs with a BGE :) (although I did finish them on my bge for the smoke.
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,451
    +++what positives have been said! The thing I like is being able to hold something at the perfect temp for a period if your dinner plans get extended - NO PROBLEM! I like that flexibility! 
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,567
    been seeing recipes lately for in fused oils with the sous vide, might do something with all the thyme, thai basil, rosemary, hot peppers etc from the garden this fall. recipes like lemon thyme, sesame chili etc.  it does make things more tender, even a flank 3.5 hours at 118 degrees is more tender
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Theophan said:
    Appreciate the input so far, good stuff. We make a lot of great things on the egg, but steak seems to be the go to. Always looking to expand. 
    Check out this photo that I borrowed from @Slabotnick, that he cooked reverse sear.  I DEFY anyone to do better edge-to-edge gloriousness with sous vide!  I might buy one someday for something other than steak, but I just don't believe that mostly cooking a steak in a plastic bag in a water bath can possibly taste as good as a steak 100% cooked over wood charcoal.


    I too still prefer to cook a steak over an open fire.

    I've done a dozen or so ribeyes (some were SRF) via the hot tub in the last year or so and while it is a lot easier to nail what is shown in that photo I'm more than willing to give up the edge-to-edge pinkness for the better flavor I get from cooking the whole time over flame.

    Sous vide rocks for lots of other meats/cuts but I doubt that I'll ever bother with doing another ribeye via the hot tub.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,137
    Theophan said:
    Appreciate the input so far, good stuff. We make a lot of great things on the egg, but steak seems to be the go to. Always looking to expand. 
    Check out this photo that I borrowed from @Slabotnick, that he cooked reverse sear.  I DEFY anyone to do better edge-to-edge gloriousness with sous vide!  I might buy one someday for something other than steak, but I just don't believe that mostly cooking a steak in a plastic bag in a water bath can possibly taste as good as a steak 100% cooked over wood charcoal.


    I agree..that is a beautiful steak. I also agree 100% that the steak in the photo probably tastes better than any steak coming out of my Sous Vide.
    On the other hand, at times, it's nice to have a super easy cook that only needs a sear at end to finish off the Sous Vide cook. I'm willing to sacrifice, at times,  a little flavor for simplicity. You also have the option to eat the food and experience it's true flavor. Not being enhanced or changes by flame or caramelization from the grill. A great example is a good piece of salmon cooked Sous Vide to the Exact firmness every time. Perfectly cooked shrimp with just a tiny amount of butter and salt. The ease at which this can done time and time again from SV is a great timesaver. Grilled shrimp is also one of my favs but even a minute either way on the grill can have a big impact, Especially if the size of the shrimp vary.
    For me and a steak, I prefer it cooked 100% on the grill even if it's not edge to edge the same color inside. I like the flavor from the caramelization from grilling that is added.
    Again....Damn that is a beautiful steak. Especially after eating a Subway sandwich for lunch.lol
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
  • JMCXL
    JMCXL Posts: 1,524
    gdenby said:

    Short ribs for 72 hours are a revelation.

    About that temp to you run the bath at for Short Ribs? 
    How do you finish them?
    Short Ribs are my favorite and would like to try this
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  • THEBuckeye
    THEBuckeye Posts: 4,232
    So since I picked up the egg I've been in this continuous vortex of buying accessories for my green buddy. I've read a ton about the sous vide machine's and put one in my checkout cart a time or two, even drunk, and not pulled the trigger.

    Why? Because I don't think i can make a better steak than I've done a hundred times using the reverse sear method. Perfect amount of smoke, super tender, and great sear. The perfect steak in my mind.

    So convince me to try the Amazon Prime 1 click. Will I miss the smoke?
    Go with 1 click and buy some khakis.  =)
    New Albany, Ohio 

  • THEBuckeye
    THEBuckeye Posts: 4,232
    NO FORKS! 
    New Albany, Ohio 

  • J-dubya
    J-dubya Posts: 173
    SV is a great tool to have, it's easy to cook a steak super rare with reverse sear and get good edge to edge, but if want something like medium-rare, you just aren't going get it as well as with SV. 
  • Theophan
    Theophan Posts: 2,656
    J-dubya said:
    SV is a great tool to have, it's easy to cook a steak super rare with reverse sear and get good edge to edge, but if want something like medium-rare, you just aren't going get it as well as with SV. 
    Did you see the photo above?  That wasn't purple raw (i.e. rare) meat on the inside, but gorgeous pink medium-rare meat.  And it was reverse sear.

    I've seen lots of advantages to sous vide in this discussion, and I get it, but the photos clearly demonstrate that it just flat isn't true that a carefully done reverse sear can't do every bit as well with edge-to-edge medium rare glory as SV.  Look again at that picture.

    I'm not saying SV is bad, or even that I won't try it, sometime!  It's just that over the years I've seen lots of claims about it being the only way to get edge-to-edge medium rare meat, and (a) I've seen some really gorgeous SV meats on this forum, but many times I've seen gray edges MUCH deeper than the picture above, and (b) I've seen multiple pictures of reverse-seared meat that was as gorgeous edge-to-edge as any SV picture I've ever seen.

    So I very well may try sous vide one of these days, but it ain't gonna be for steak, I'll tell you that.
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    edited August 2016
    Theophan said:
    J-dubya said:
    SV is a great tool to have, it's easy to cook a steak super rare with reverse sear and get good edge to edge, but if want something like medium-rare, you just aren't going get it as well as with SV. 
    Did you see the photo above?  That wasn't purple raw (i.e. rare) meat on the inside, but gorgeous pink medium-rare meat.  And it was reverse sear.

    I've seen lots of advantages to sous vide in this discussion, and I get it, but the photos clearly demonstrate that it just flat isn't true that a carefully done reverse sear can't do every bit as well with edge-to-edge medium rare glory as SV.  Look again at that picture.

    I'm not saying SV is bad, or even that I won't try it, sometime!  It's just that over the years I've seen lots of claims about it being the only way to get edge-to-edge medium rare meat, and (a) I've seen some really gorgeous SV meats on this forum, but many times I've seen gray edges MUCH deeper than the picture above, and (b) I've seen multiple pictures of reverse-seared meat that was as gorgeous edge-to-edge as any SV picture I've ever seen.

    So I very well may try sous vide one of these days, but it ain't gonna be for steak, I'll tell you that.
    every RS steak I've ever done, I've over shot.  Cause  I suck and can't cook. Not that it can't be done, but even without SV, I prefer just a CI pan. You're really adamant about not cooking your steak this way. Cool, but RS isn't the only answer. 
  • Slabotnick
    Slabotnick Posts: 215
    J-dubya said:
    SV is a great tool to have, it's easy to cook a steak super rare with reverse sear and get good edge to edge, but if want something like medium-rare, you just aren't going get it as well as with SV. 
    Trust me if that steak was rare my wife wouldn't have even given it a shot. The picture above hit internal at 120 when I took it off to let rest for 20 minutes before a minute sear each side on cast iron at around 500, so there is no way it was rare.
  • I don't bother with sous vide for steaks. The egg is easy enough. But for certain things, the sous vide is really good: poached eggs, scallops, beef short ribs, chuck roast. Try getting a nicely marbled chuck roast, put it in the sous vide for 72 hours, and then finish it off with an industrial blow torch in front of dinner guests. Make sure you do that under a well ventilated hood or outside. Should have added pork chops and pork loin.
  • jimreed777
    jimreed777 Posts: 324
    Sous vide has a place. If you are cooking a few steaks and are able to babysit temp... RS is awesome.

    I cooked 30 pounds of flat iron steaks for a surprise 40th anniversary party on Sunday for my in laws. I was 10 hours away from my egg. The only grill  I had access to in Florida for the party was a gasser. I brought my sous vide, spent $29 in FL for a smokey Joe weber, and $11 for a bag of Match light. I put them in at 132 for 24 hours in cooler I rigged with a rope run several times through the handles and some zip lock baggies and clothes pins.

    The start got delayed... So the steaks were in another hour then planned... I just kept playing pool and drinking without worrying about over cooking the steaks.

    When it was time, I got the Smokey Joe loaded with briquettes right up to the bottom of the grate. I put on about 3 pounds of steak at a time and flipped every 15 seconds until I got a nice char. 

    Steaks were a huge hit...I showed anyone who asked the cooler setup in the garage and they could not believe those steaks with just salt and pepper before the char were that good. 
  • J-dubya
    J-dubya Posts: 173
    Theophan said:
    J-dubya said:
    SV is a great tool to have, it's easy to cook a steak super rare with reverse sear and get good edge to edge, but if want something like medium-rare, you just aren't going get it as well as with SV. 
    Did you see the photo above?  That wasn't purple raw (i.e. rare) meat on the inside, but gorgeous pink medium-rare meat.  And it was reverse sear.

    I've seen lots of advantages to sous vide in this discussion, and I get it, but the photos clearly demonstrate that it just flat isn't true that a carefully done reverse sear can't do every bit as well with edge-to-edge medium rare glory as SV.  Look again at that picture.

    I'm not saying SV is bad, or even that I won't try it, sometime!  It's just that over the years I've seen lots of claims about it being the only way to get edge-to-edge medium rare meat, and (a) I've seen some really gorgeous SV meats on this forum, but many times I've seen gray edges MUCH deeper than the picture above, and (b) I've seen multiple pictures of reverse-seared meat that was as gorgeous edge-to-edge as any SV picture I've ever seen.

    So I very well may try sous vide one of these days, but it ain't gonna be for steak, I'll tell you that.
    Ya, I saw the picture, good looking steak, not really sure what it means, it's one picture of steak you didn't cook and you have never tried SV (no offense). 

       It's not about getting one steak right, it's about consistency. I love RS, but it's absurd to think its superior to SV for edge to edge. 
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    JMCXL said:
    gdenby said:

    Short ribs for 72 hours are a revelation.

    About that temp to you run the bath at for Short Ribs? 
    How do you finish them?
    Short Ribs are my favorite and would like to try this
    About 140F. I've found recipes that range from 138 to 142. My controller is prone to a little inaccuracy, tends to over shoot a little. so I go no higher than 140.

    I've finished them both w a pan sear, and the Egg. I prefer the Egg results a little more, particularly if they are bone in, but a few minutes in hot CI can make a great crust, too, w. boneless.