OT Muhammad Ali in Hospital OT

Spaightlabs said:

https://joebrunoonboxing.wordpress.com/2010/11/06/joe-bruno-on-boxing-muhammad-ali-is-not-a-hero

@Spaightlabs

Thank you for posting this article. Great way to start dialogue for a Saturday evening. 

Is this the way you feel, or did you find some significance in the words of Joe Bruno wrote, that you could not?

Dude, you are a pretty cool guy on this forum, and nobody will think anything of you for expressing your opinion. If you have something to say, state your position. You have that right. We all do. Or was this your position, what Joe Bruno wrote?

I do not agree with Bruno, but that is just me. Something about clemency being offered to those that left the country as CO, those that found ways around having to serve because of connections, or strategic religious affiliations and nothing being said of them.  The fact is, as The United States Supreme Court ruled on Ali and others like him, they were denied their rights, and were treated in a manner that was unconstitutional. I think the law was pretty clear on that decision. Circa 1971

I served. I volunteered. Personally, (and again it is just my opinion), having to deal with those in the service that did not wish to be there, was a distraction nobody wanted, or needed.

In the 60's, he was refused service for food because of his color. I am thinking Joe Bruno, never had to face that disrespect and indignation, in his life. A country that allows you to be subjected to human rights violations taking away your freedom, wants you to fight for its freedom.

I don't know. I can see the point. Just something wrong with that.

In less than ten years, The United States service went to all volunteer. 1967 was Ali's fight for justice, and soon thereafter, 1973, was the start of the all volunteer process, (if memory serves me correctly). It actually started in select posts as early as 1971, which was the same year The United States Supreme Court overturned Ali's conviction.

Coincidence?

There are many, within the branches of the service that will tell you, it has had a very positive effect in the quality of soldiers since. 

So, in a sense, he did serve the military, by his actions.

As for Joe Bruno's judgement on Ali's personal life, only he can tell you what his thoughts are about that. Did he write any blogs on any other Boxer which were womanizers? Or was Ali the only one? I don't know. I don't care about what goes on in a person's life, except if it should impact my family or loved ones. Outside of that, I really don't care. Nothing he did had an effect on my world. I have friends that had crappy marriages, many actually have entered it for the third or 4th time. Sad it did not workout, remain hopefull they are happier now.

Ali spent much time and money in the service of mankind.
Islam means "to serve." He did. He actually stated "Service to others is the rent you pay for room on this earth." 

He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, yet he also made a lot of people rich, just by association, or put money in their pockets for just being able to write an opinion about him.

Joe Bruno was just one of the thousands. Have any references from bloggers that think otherwise? I am thinking this could easily fill up a few pages of comments, would you agree?

Private ceremony and burial at Cave Hill Cemetery in Louisville. These are arrangements made by Ali, years ago. Billy Crystal will be one of many that will do an eulogy.

"The Nation of Islam taught that white people were devils. I don't believe that now; in fact, I never really believed that,” Ali wrote in a 2004 biography. “But when I was young, I had seen and heard so many horrible stories about the white man that this made me stop and listen."

I guess he did, being that his life was not anything remotely compared to white folks in the 60s. Bad times for some folks.