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Searing steak with a good crust
Powak
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Got lazy tonight with the rainy cold weather and decided to cook steak indoors using cast iron pans. I found a good recipe by Alton Brown (which I'll attach below), that Involved searing the steak in a cast iron pan on high heat, 30 seconds a side then roasting at 500 in the same pan in the oven either 2-3 minutes aside depending on how you like em. Turned out the best steaks I've ever had. I was wondering how this method could be assimilated on the egg?
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Use your cast iron pan on the egg.They/Them
Morgantown, PA
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Direct sear in cast iron on egg. Pull tent with foil while put indirect piece in. Place pan back on eggColumbia, SC --- LBGE 2011 -- MINI BGE 2013
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Start out direct for the sear. Remove the pan and grid, add the plate setter, then go indirect for the "oven".Which came first the chicken or the egg? I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg.
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I've never done it this way, will this give better flavor from being on the egg?Chubbs said:Direct sear in cast iron on egg. Pull tent with foil while put indirect piece in. Place pan back on egg
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That's what i was wondering. I've done the reverse sear method a bunch of times and the steaks come out the best I could get em to on the grill but the pan method is just amazing.
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I've never done it this way, will this give better flavor from being on the egg?Chubbs said:Direct sear in cast iron on egg. Pull tent with foil while put indirect piece in. Place pan back on egg -
I have cooked steaks using Alton Brown's method (oven and BGE) and the reverse sear. Reverse sear is the clear winner. Taste tests confirm the basic theory. Cook slow, so that the whole steak is cooked to the same temperature - outside to inside. Then crank up the heat to sear the outside. That way you have a steak that has a crust on the outside, but is uniformly cooked on the inside. Searing first gives you a steak that gradually shifts from grey (well done) to rare or medium rare in the middle. You can do this procedure inside or outside. Some folks in the restaurant industry put the steaks in a butter bath to hold them to (say) 120 or 125. Think sous vide in butter. (Yum!) They keep them at that temp until they have an order. The "warmed" steak is then seared to bring it to the customer's preference - rare or medium rare.Weber Kettle, Weber Genesis Silver B, Medium Egg, KJ Classic (Black)
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Man, I get it, the perfect steak. I think no matter how you choose to cook a Steak on the BGE it is excellent. Tried them all, and loved everyone I have cooked.
I can't remember the last time I used a cooktop or oven for beef, pork, Chicken, fish, Za. Use it a couple of times in the winter for soups , is about all."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
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This reminded me or another Alton Brown steak method: Directly on coals.
Anyone try this? http://altonbrown.com/steak-on-coals/
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Many including myself have done it, but on the forum we call it Cave Man Style. Use the search function or google and you will find many threads.Tony_T said:This reminded me or another Alton Brown steak method: Directly on coals.
Anyone try this? http://altonbrown.com/steak-on-coals/Large and Small BGECentral, IL -
LOL...Tony_T said:This reminded me or another Alton Brown steak method: Directly on coals.
Anyone try this?
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Chester County, PA
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I've done some really good reverse sears on the egg, it's just getting the perfect crust that I wanna nail after roasting low and slow. The cast iron skillet nailed that. I'm thinking maybe hotter temps for the sear like 650 and up (usually I do 600), or use a cast iron grate or just sear for longer times.bboulier said:I have cooked steaks using Alton Brown's method (oven and BGE) and the reverse sear. Reverse sear is the clear winner. -
I used mine (stove top) to make tea for Butt Blast. It didn't know how to act. Oh no....I let the secrete out of the bag.....I bet everyone thought I boiled the water (for the tea) on my egg.YukonRon said:
I can't remember the last time I used a cooktopEllijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax
Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
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Is a cast iron grate worth picking up for a large egg?
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Two things, yes it is worth it, and 2, you can and will be able to use it for more than just egg use.Powak said:Is a cast iron grate worth picking up for a large egg?
I use my cast iron pans more than my eggs. -
He's referring to a cast iron grate, not the pan.
And personally, I don't like the cast iron grate (like you said, just use a pan)
I do like the stainless steel grate (I hated the old porcelain grate)
I got a ss grate from Michael's Custom Grill Works a year ago. -
Tony_T said:This reminded me or another Alton Brown steak method: Directly on coals.
Anyone try this? http://altonbrown.com/steak-on-coals/
Once you go caveman you'll never go back.
OK, you might just add it to your repertoire. I like to caveman when I'm having people over that I don't know that well. It's a great conversation starter. And it works well with better cuts - not just the skirt steak in that video, but the timing on the thicker cuts is a little different.
I know that many here are - appropriately - not fans of Steve Raichlen (because he used some egghead pics as his own), but I think this is the best video I've seen about caveman steaks for thicker cuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhDTcHFLP7Y
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San Antonio, TX
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I can't edit that post, I would NOT get the cast iron grate, I'd get a few pans instead. However, that's your decision to make.
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I'm not a fan of the caveman style, though I've tried to like it. The outside seems to cook much faster than the inside. I prefer cast iron or a regular grid.
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Some people do like them. I wouldn't spend a dime for one. In fact, I would gladly spend some bucks to get a ss grate as a replacement for a ci grate. Cast iron dutch ovens, pans and flat griddles are great and very useful, grates not so much.Powak said:Is a cast iron grate worth picking up for a large egg?Southeast Florida - LBGE
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I have the cast iron grate and use it more than my stainless grate. I would recommend checking out your local TJ Max or something of that nature and just see what they have. I found a Lodge reversible griddle that I use a lot now for half the price they sell them on the Lodge Website.Large and Small BGECentral, IL
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Hey when you guys do a reverse sear do you do dome opened or closed for the searing portion?
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i don't know how others do it, but if you sear with the dome closed, you are not only searing the underside, but also cooking the rest of the steak by roasting.
if your goal is to sear only, while adding minimum extra heat (to minimize carryover), you'd do well to keep the dome open. that way only the underside of the steak is being seared/cooked
all of these methods are essentially the same: sear the steak (for color, flavor, etc.), and roast or heat the steak (in order to bring it most of the way to its final temp). you can do that in either order, and by a number of different methods.
the more separate those two steps are, the better you can control each
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Powak said:Is a cast iron grate worth picking up for a large egg?
I use a CI grate on my Large and Small for everything. Works 'grate' for me!Southlake, TX and Cowhouse Creek - King, TX. 2 Large, 1 Small and a lot of Eggcessories. -
Here is the in between item for cast iron grate and cowboy style. This is a weber diamond pattern thick cast iron grate for $35 from amazon, and it fits perfectly on the spider in the large and gets steak right down close to coals. So you can do reverse sear with adjustable rig with steak up high with this grate under the stone, then when ribeye at 115 internal, pull all out except the weber grate, get it up to 550 or so, and 45 seconds per side sear with nice cross hatch grate pattern. http://www.amazon.com/Weber-8834-Gourmet-System-Grate/dp/B0044ERTDY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1462323092&sr=8-4&keywords=weber+cast+iron+grate
This is a great product if you have the spider. I also cook my burgers on this , can do about 4 at a time--is it not as big as the factory grate since it sits further down in the egg -
I was cleaning out my garage and found an un opened box with 2 CI grates that was for a gas grill long ago gone. there square but fit my large perfect! Just lay it on top of my grate when I want a sear.
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I have a PSWOO2, can you use a spider with it in?SmokinTiger81 said:
This is a great product if you have the spider. I also cook my burgers on this , can do about 4 at a time--is it not as big as the factory grate since it sits further down in the egg -
Powak, don't know, I don't have a Woo. Call Tom at Ceramic grill store and ask. The spider legs rest in the firebox notches so seems like spider would work with anything above it.
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I use the Lodge double-sided griddle....

it does a good job getting those sear marks on the grill side, but you can also flip to the smooth side for the roast portion of the cook. This Lodge piece sits well in a Large Egg.
Or I'd look for a pan with short handles like this one....
LBGE since 2014
Griffin, GA
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I love caveman cooks on good bone in ribeyes. The flavor is unique and incredible. For a seared crust, nothing beats screaming hot CI either forward or reverse sear.buzd504 said:I'm not a fan of the caveman style, though I've tried to like it. The outside seems to cook much faster than the inside. I prefer cast iron or a regular grid.Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga -
Works if you SV or hot-tub or reverse sear the meat, but otherwise slapping it on cold - you're right.buzd504 said:I'm not a fan of the caveman style, though I've tried to like it. The outside seems to cook much faster than the inside. I prefer cast iron or a regular grid.
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