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3-2-1, 3-1.5-1 or 3-1-1 at 275 grate for Spare Ribs?

I am eggsperimenting with the Trigg method today. The last time I did 3-2-1 the ribs were falling apart.

Any recommendations for 275?

This pic was at the 2 hr mark. Rib Ticker Rub, black pepper and a little brown sugar for the rub.

Thanks

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  • Hi54putty
    Hi54putty Posts: 1,873
    5-0-0 
    XL,L,S 
    Winston-Salem, NC 
  • Chubbs
    Chubbs Posts: 6,929
    I go 5-0-1. No foil for me. Just doesn't need it and that is the culprit for falling apart to me. That last hour with sauce can be 15 mins or an hour. Depends on when they pass bend test 
    Columbia, SC --- LBGE 2011 -- MINI BGE 2013
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,261
    edited January 2016
    ^^^^ Agreed. Best I ever had, straight through after prep 5 hours.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,988
    I have some on the egg as we speak. I'm running at 225 using the when it's done method. Just letting them cook unwrapped for the duration. Doesn't get much simpler than that. You know it's simply a personal choice and matter of individual taste, but for home cooking and eating, I prefer naked ribs. But to each their own my friend. Their are those who do prefer their meat wrapped instead of naked. I'm just not one of them. 

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

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  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    If you're experimenting, then cut the rack in half.  Run half naked to the end.  For the other half, shorten the foiled time and juggle the before and after times as you see fit.  Then you get a side-by-side test off the same rack of spares cooked at the same time. 

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • dstearn
    dstearn Posts: 1,705
    They are on in the foil now meat,side,down, brown sugar, honey,parkay, and tiger sauce. Just asking for timing recommendations.

  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    Spoil sport! 

    What didn't you like about the 3-2-1 ribs?  If too falling-off-the-bone done, then shorten to 1.5 hours for the foil portion of the cook ... 3-1.5-1.5 ... the end is really a when done number.  Bend or toothpick indicated.

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • dstearn
    dstearn Posts: 1,705
    Spoil sport! 

    What didn't you like about the 3-2-1 ribs?  If too falling-off-the-bone done, then shorten to 1.5 hours for the foil portion of the cook ... 3-1.5-1.5 ... the end is really a when done number.  Bend or toothpick indicated.
    Thanks, that is what I will try. Normally I cook without foil but I felt like trying the Trigg method today.
  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,768
    Turbo Rules =)
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Just given a Mini to add to the herd. 

  • Mosca
    Mosca Posts: 456
    For baby backs, if you aren't doing 5-0-0 then 3-1-1 is best. Once in a while they will be falling off the bone, yes, but that is better than tough as leather. Falling off the bone is still pretty damn good.
  • stompbox
    stompbox Posts: 729
    I feel like a degenerative on this forum when it comes to ribs.  I like fall off the bone.

    I did CWM's method several times and none of us like the correct or competition style.

    3-1.5-1 works great for me.
  • Mosca
    Mosca Posts: 456
    stompbox said:
    I feel like a degenerative on this forum when it comes to ribs.  I like fall off the bone.

    I did CWM's method several times and none of us like the correct or competition style.

    3-1.5-1 works great for me.
    I kinda think that competition style exists because fall off the bone texture is too easy. I love competition style... I love fall off the bone, too. Ribs are freakin' awesome.
  • dstearn
    dstearn Posts: 1,705
    1.5 hrs in the foil was a bit much. The ribs were starting to fall apart.But the flavor profile was good.

  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    Damn but they look good.

    3-1.5-? ... what was the finish time?  If it was too fall-off-the-bone, what are you going to try next time for the foiled time?

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,454
    WOWSER! Do those look delicious and I love the texture!  Good job!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,673
    I do whatever temp my egg settles at followed by when I remember I have ribs on.  My results vary. 

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

  • CtTOPGUN
    CtTOPGUN Posts: 612
     I like about 260* and run them until ready to eat. I have tried the foil methods, and I find I like the simpler unfoiled method best. I do like a glaze of sauce at the end. Currently favoring Blues Hog 50% Original/50% Tennesee Red.

     As for turbo? Why not? Good pork flavor even grilled hot. And I don't mind some bite. I much prefer a little bite over "fall off the bone".

      Jim
    LBGE/Weber Kettle/Blackstone 36" Griddle/Turkey Fryer/Induction Burner/Royal Gourmet 24" Griddle/Cuisinart Twin Oaks/Pit Boss Tabletop pellet smoker/Instant Pot

     BBQ from the State of Connecticut!

       Jim
  • I wish I could say I liked the turbo as much as (any variation of) the 3-2-1 method because it's so much simpler, but I just don't (nor does my wife). I was so sure I screwed something up the first time I did turbo based on all those who endorse the method here that I tried the same method a second time, but ended up with the same disappointing results. Turbo results with pork butt/shoulder have been good when pressed for time, but I still prefer the results I get at lower temps for those as well.
    Stillwater, MN
  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    275 grate . 2 hours unwrapped then 2 hours wrapped. Or 5 hours unwrapped. 

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  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Mickey said:
    Turbo Rules =)
    Yup.  Believe it.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • JRWhitee
    JRWhitee Posts: 5,678
    When I was a rookie I used to foil, then I found out they were much better without. 5.0.0 @ 250 works great for me.
                                                                
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,583
    the only way to get any consistency with the foil stage is meat side down and start checking at 45 min and every 15 minutes afterwards. too much work for me but the 2 hr, or 1.5 hr, or 1hr rule for foiled ribs does not work, you have to keep checking or you get mush
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    the only way to get any consistency with the foil stage is meat side down and start checking at 45 min and every 15 minutes afterwards. too much work for me but the 2 hr, or 1.5 hr, or 1hr rule for foiled ribs does not work, you have to keep checking or you get mush
    @fishlessman ... okay, I'll expose my ignorance ... check what ... toothpick, temp, bend?

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,583
    the only way to get any consistency with the foil stage is meat side down and start checking at 45 min and every 15 minutes afterwards. too much work for me but the 2 hr, or 1.5 hr, or 1hr rule for foiled ribs does not work, you have to keep checking or you get mush
    @fishlessman ... okay, I'll expose my ignorance ... check what ... toothpick, temp, bend?
    i open foil and check with a toothpick and if its too tender i passed the mark, i think this process is too inconsistent if your not using it weekly. it does seem to go over good if your feeding a crowd but its fall apart sticky sweet that does that. for me, no foil, a dry rib, sauce in a plate so i dont get too much sauce
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    @fishlessman ... thanks for the explanation.  Thought maybe I'd missed giving foiling a fair shake by doing the foiling stage based on time.  Maybe when it's warmer I'll futz experiment with checking during the foil stage.

    Next up though has to be a side-by-side standard cook vs turbo cook to see if the missus can taste the difference. 

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • Next up though has to be a side-by-side standard cook vs turbo cook to see if the missus can taste the difference. 
    I would be absolutely shocked if she cannot taste the difference. The question will be which one she likes better and whether it's worth the additional hassle to foil.
    Stillwater, MN
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    @StillH2OEgger ... oh, she can taste the difference and she does render an opinion.

    The side-by-side of turbo vs low-n-slow is for me.  I love ribs, but sometimes when purchased from a restaurant or BBQ joint, they don't love me.  Home cooked on the egg, low-n-slow has not failed to produce ribs that set well with my stomach.  My fear with turbo ribs is that not all of the fat will have been rendered ... but, eventually I'll experiment with it.

    @dstearn ... sorry for the side excursion.

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • dstearn
    dstearn Posts: 1,705
    Damn but they look good.

    3-1.5-? ... what was the finish time?  If it was too fall-off-the-bone, what are you going to try next time for the foiled time?
    It was 275 grate at 3-1.5-1. I liked the flavor profile, but the foil process over cooked them. When I opened the foil the ribs at the end of the slab were falling apart. I managed to keep the center slab intact. Next time I will use a lower temp and check the ribs in foil at 30 minutes after 3 hrs. I was not foiling to hasten the cook, my goal was to retain moisture and add another layer of flavor ala Johnny Trigg.