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OT - Belgian Beer
Foghorn
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I was recently informed by a restaurant owner that St. Bernardus is not going to brew any more oak-aged ABT 12. Can anyone confirm this?
And as long as we're talking about Belgian beers - what is your favorite? Several of us recently compared Allagash Tripel from Maine to Westmalle Tripel and found we liked the Allagash better. And the oak-aged Allagash Curieux took it to another level.
And as long as we're talking about Belgian beers - what is your favorite? Several of us recently compared Allagash Tripel from Maine to Westmalle Tripel and found we liked the Allagash better. And the oak-aged Allagash Curieux took it to another level.
XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle
San Antonio, TX
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I heard that the Oaked St. B 12th was a one time thing as well.
As far as others I love. Rochefort 10, Pannepot, Orval. These should be pretty available at most good craft beer stores.
Allagash makes some tasty beers for sure. Curieux and Odyssey are at the top of my list from them.
Steve
XL, Mini Max, and a 22" Blackstone in Cincinnati, Ohio -
Thanks @YEMTrey. Now I'm definitely going to buy out the store where I know I can get some Oaked St B 12.
This spring I was able to get some Straffe Hendrik Heritage Quad. If you ever get a chance to taste it, don't pass it up.
The Rochefort 10 and Orval are on my list, but I'll now have to add Panneport as well.
I recently acquired a bottle of Westvleteren 12 that I am saving for a special occasion.XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle
San Antonio, TX
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Rochefort 10...ppppsssshhhh
Rochefort 8 is where it's at!LBGE since June 2012
Omaha, NE
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I get Duvel when I feel rich. Have a couple in the fridge now.
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If you like those 'belgians', you'll love real actual Belgians.
Haven't had a bad one.
My current summer indulgence is La Chouffe. I get it here in a 750ml size or so. Not a bad single serving
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i used to live near belgium (netherlands).
my favorites are duvel, kwak, leffe, and hoegaarden -
What the funky stuff though? Lambics etc? I love duvel etc but you gotta go deep when in Belgium[social media disclaimer: irony and sarcasm may be used in some or all of user's posts; emoticon usage is intended to indicate moderately jocular social interaction; the comments toward users, their usernames, and the real people (living or dead) that they refer to are not intended to be adversarial in nature; those replying to this user are entering into a tacit agreement that they are real-life or social-media acquaintances and/or have agreed to or tacitly agreed to perpetrate occasional good-natured ribbing between and among themselves and others]
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Very difficult to pick my favorite Belgian but Van Damme is certainly near the top of the list.
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I love Belgians as much as I detest IPA's.
LBGE since June 2012
Omaha, NE
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Salty sam, IPAs today are actually nothing like real IPAs.
A true IPA is actually very mild. All the extra hops were stale and added as a preservative. I like a hoppy beer too, but a lot of the current fad is just about aggressive hoppiness
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Really most of what has been mentioned already would be on my list as well. I'm a fan of more run of mill stuff too, and my fridge is usually stocked with Three Philosophers and Matilda.
Sidebar...if ever in Chicago, Hopleaf is a must stop for me. Unbelievable Belgian inspired food menu and huge Belgian beer selection along with a great craft selection. Awesome place. www.hopleafbar.comL, S, MM, Mini
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St. B is probably my favorite, along with La Chouffe and Delerium Tremens by Brouwerji Huyghe. I'm always up for a Chimay. In regards to Belgian-style beers, Allagash is the best I've had in the US and I enjoy Unibroue from the friendly people of Quebec - La Fin Du Monde is really good beer.
Belgians are my favorite style of beer. They've got some good yeast over there in the land of chocolate, waffles, and Smurfs. -
I do enjoy Bass Ale. Belgian, and Belgian inspired types are amongst my go to beers, when the mood hits. This has been educational for me.Darby_Crenshaw said:Salty sam, IPAs today are actually nothing like real IPAs.
A true IPA is actually very mild. All the extra hops were stale and added as a preservative. I like a hoppy beer too, but a lot of the current fad is just about aggressive hoppiness
The truest 'real' IPA in the market is Bass Ale. A beer no one would confuse for today's IPA
thanks for posting."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
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Don't laugh... Hell or High Watermelon. Had it at PF Changs and then bought a six pack at Wegmans but it's seasonal.
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Triple Perfection, Hennepin, Rare Vos, Gnommegang, Wit (all from Ommegang), La Fin Du Monde, Hoegarten, Allagash White, La Chouffe, Matilda and Sofie from Goose Island. I know most of these are Belgian styles and not truly from Belgium but you get the idea.Bloomfield, NJ
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Three Philosophers, Tripel B, Brother Thelonious... The Revrend, Salvation, Hog Heaven (those three all from Avery Brewing). If you're in Texas you should be able to find Real Ale's Black Quad which I just tried for the first time, really good stuff. Rince Cochon is a nice one for summer, so is Tank 7 made by Boulevard. They also make a Quad called The Sixth Glass that I really like... I'll have to think about it because I'm only one cup deep into my coffee this morning, but there's more.BGE XL- Tomball, TX
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I agree that a lot of today's American made IPAs are hop bombs. Bass Ale is widely available, but Bass IPA is harder to find. Better example to try would be Fuller's India Pale Ale. If not available in your area, try a Samuel Smith's India Ale. Both Fuller's and Samuel Smith's are widely distributed (although I think Salty Sam may have a hard time finding them because I don't think either is distributed in NE). There are some other good examples, but they tend to have limited distribution.Darby_Crenshaw said:Salty sam, IPAs today are actually nothing like real IPAs.
A true IPA is actually very mild. All the extra hops were stale and added as a preservative. I like a hoppy beer too, but a lot of the current fad is just about aggressive hoppiness
The truest 'real' IPA in the market is Bass Ale. A beer no one would confuse for today's IPA
Southeast Florida - LBGE
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I like most of Unibroue, there are a few from North Coast in CA that are good - Brother Theolonius and Pranqster, Allagash' Tripel I like, I have a few aging in my beer fridge, nothing outrageous but I have fun with it.Foghorn said:Thanks @YEMTrey. Now I'm definitely going to buy out the store where I know I can get some Oaked St B 12.
This spring I was able to get some Straffe Hendrik Heritage Quad. If you ever get a chance to taste it, don't pass it up.
The Rochefort 10 and Orval are on my list, but I'll now have to add Panneport as well.
I recently acquired a bottle of Westvleteren 12 that I am saving for a special occasion.
I had a westveltern 12,given to me by wife, to celebrate the Warriors winning a championship title and moving into our new house. Good times. -
Thanks to all for your comments.
@lewisj82, you're right about the Real Ale. I've has their quad and it is excellent.
@Darby_Crenshaw, I am confused by your comment about "real actual Belgians" because as near as I can tell, the only non-Belgian brewery mentioned prior to your comment was Allagash which was only mentioned as a comparison to Westmalle. The others mentioned were Rochefort, Duvel, Westvleteren, Orval, Pannepot, St. Bernardus.
Are they not "real actual Belgians"?XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle
San Antonio, TX
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I enjoy Belgian beers, stouts, and some IPAs, but I find myself enjoying a good stout or Belgian while just chilling.
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That's a local seasonal beer here, I think they do it as a summer beer since it is a wheat beer. I got it last year sorta on a whim, actually pretty good.Davec433 said:Don't laugh... Hell or High Watermelon. Had it at PF Changs and then bought a six pack at Wegmans but it's seasonal. -
Hingham (Boston) Beer Works makes an excellent watermelon beer that on some hot summer days makes me think "that is the most refreshing beverage in human history" - but it is not what I think of as a Belgian beer.BYS1981 said:
That's a local seasonal beer here, I think they do it as a summer beer since it is a wheat beer. I got it last year sorta on a whim, actually pretty good.Davec433 said:Don't laugh... Hell or High Watermelon. Had it at PF Changs and then bought a six pack at Wegmans but it's seasonal.
Is Hell or High Watermelon a Belgian style? With watermelon?
As for the Lambics, we have used them for dessert beer/wine at some parties. I enjoy them on certain occasions.XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle
San Antonio, TX
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Not a Belgian but the comment about Hell or High Watermelon reminded me of Shiner Ruby Redbird. Not something I thought I'd like since I'm not a fan of Grapefruit, but man is that refreshing. They just made it available year round.BGE XL- Tomball, TX
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If your into sours Cantillon is excellent.
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Tripel Karmeliet. Mmmmmm.Jefferson, GA
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Kwak, Orval, Duvel, Leffe and Westmalle.
@Tbent totally agree re Hopleaf. One of the best beer bars in the city.__________________________
XL
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Chimay cinq cents
Allagash Curieux
Been on an IPA kick lately though. Sip-of-Sunshine and Ballast Point Sculpin.
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Sip of Sunshine is pretty awesome, I actually prefer it to Heady... But Double Sunshine takes the cake.robnybbq said:Chimay cinq cents
Allagash Curieux
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Agreed. I prefer Focal Banger to Heady as well.Phatchris said:
Sip of Sunshine is pretty awesome, I actually prefer it to Heady... But Double Sunshine takes the cake.robnybbq said:Chimay cinq cents
Allagash Curieux
Been on an IPA kick lately though. Sip-of-Sunshine and Ballast Point Sculpin.Steve
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I haven't had Focal Banger yet, but I have a few skiing trips to Stowe planned so that will changeYEMTrey said:
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