YAWGD (yet another welding glove discussion)

zaphod

has anyone had good or bad (particularly bad) experience with the Lincoln Electric Traditional MIG Stick Welding Gloves?  My Mechanix Flux gloves have gotten hard and not very heat resistant.

These seem to have reasonable heat rating, and have flames on them added bonus: they are actually in stock in stores around here (might mean that they aren't very good).



I'm looking at ordering a set of Tillman 850 based on an old discussion here, but for $30 or so, these LE should tide me over. And they have flames on them.

fishlessman

would say they are fine for picking up an adjustable rig or a roasting pan. not so much for taking a 500 degree platesetter out of an egg. cotton lined doesnt resist alot of heat, heavy wool lined does but they are too stiff and impractical for egging. those are cheap enough to try but i dont use welding gloves while egging, cheap work gloves and pot holders is what i use, and a stick i use for a grid lifter

zaphod

yeah, most of the welding gloves have a bit of conductive protection (grabbing hot things like a platesetter) but more convection (near a hot thing like working over the fire). So the rating on a glove is more working near hot stuff, not grabbing hot stuff. That's why a lot of the higher temp rated gloves are reflective on the back or all over. Some are even unlined on the palm "for dexterity" -  for grabbing sh!t but not hot sh!t.

Good advice about wool lined vs. cotton lined - thanks. I don't know that I'd tweeked into that.

I have a platesetter lifter, and a couple of grid lifters, but sometimes - say, removing a hot platesetter from a basket - you need to grab hold. I liked the Mechanix Flux brand, but can't find it in the stores.

alaskanassasin

If you get any welding gloves too hot they are going to shrivel up and get hard.

zaphod

yep, that is what happened to my current pair. Life is hard, so are my gloves.

Canugghead

fishlessman said:

would say they are fine for picking up an adjustable rig or a roasting pan. not so much for taking a 500 degree platesetter out of an egg. cotton lined doesnt resist alot of heat, heavy wool lined does but they are too stiff and impractical for egging. those are cheap enough to try but i dont use welding gloves while egging, cheap work gloves and pot holders is what i use, and a stick i use for a grid lifter

Run-of-the-mill silicone mittens work fine for me, even lifting XL platesetter with fully loaded grease pan, the key is to have a landing spot as close as possible.

DoubleEgger

Get a rig from CGS and you’ll never have to touch a hot platesetter again. 

lkapigian

alaskanassasin said:

If you get any welding gloves too hot they are going to shrivel up and get hard.

Quite the opposite for me 

zaphod

what welding gloves are you using for the egg?

RRP

You can always switch to foundry gloves which do provide you maximum hand protection, but there is an obvious  trade off that makes them less desirable...

johnmitchell

Teed up for some great comments 😉

zaphod

yes, very handy of him.

Canugghead

Two handy options for @RRP, it's Friday!
a) wrap you hands with gaskets for better fit and insulation
b) start lying, your hands will grow into them
Did someone say it's Friday 

alaskanassasin

Where did you get those foundry gloves @RRP? I assume they are meant to have welding gloves liners

RRP

alaskanassasin said:

Where did you get those foundry gloves @RRP? I assume they are meant to have welding gloves liners

I bought those somewhere online at least 24 years ago having never seen as much as a size description of them. However - let me back up a bit. When I was in college in the 1960's I spent 3 summers working in a factory foundry cutting brass and copper pieces from flow gates. It was horribly hot there because it was so close to the blast furnaces. I could see the men making the sand molds. Then they would pour the molten metal which would set for a short while. Then they would "knock them out" and  pick up those hot molded pieces just wearing gloves. Soooo - remembering how the steam and heat would rise from those pieces and they picked them up with ease that I thought "foundry gloves" would be perfect use with a BGE and the "wimpy" heat an egg could produce!

zaphod

last night I also dove deep into glass blowing gloves. retreated back to welding gloves.

I used to cast pewter and would drop by a local foundry to buy ingots. they always had the garage door up no matter what time of year. seeing the ingots cooling outside the door as the snow fell on them shore was a purdy sight to see.

zaphod

well, the LE gloves were one size fits none, so they were a bust. Picked up some deerskin with good palm and finger padding, but still flexible. shall see what they do with a hot something or other.

RRP

zaphod said:

well, the LE gloves were one size fits none, so they were a bust. Picked up some deerskin with good palm and finger padding, but still flexible. shall see what they do with a hot something or other.

my unsolicited advise is to practice your cuss words cauz deerskin may have held the deer together, but even with padded palms and fingers those new gloves will still burn the living **** out of your hands!

zaphod

hell yeah.

I have collected a nice selection of lifters for the plate setter and various grids/grates/grills. I grab hot things a lot less than I used to, but sometimes it just happens that a hand hold is needed so gloves it is.

When I cast pewter (400F or so) into RTV molds, I would wear deer skin roper gloves - still have the pair with a 4" circular brand in one palm from grabbing the crucible in a moment of stupidity.

MaskedMarvel

I’ve been getting the Amazon cheapies and they work well enough for a time…  won’t handle plutonium anytime soon, but ya know…

zaphod

I tried the deer skin gloves on a waffle iron session last night. Doing waffles means reaching down to a fire ring level grate and picking up a 450F cast iron waffle maker. It's hot and there are no lifters or tongs to help - you're grabbing, flipping, shaking to remove and it has to stay at 450F or the waffles don't work.

gloves didn't work either.

gloves failed to keep my hands safe, si I went back to the old crusty ones. But I did find I can order them direct from the manufacturer so I bought 2 pair this morning. Dunno why they are no longer available at local stores, but with ANSI 3 rating, the pair I have just work.

https://www.mechanix.com/us-en/all-work-gloves/WS-FLX.html?dwvar_WS-FLX_color=tan&cgid=all-gloves-main

RRP

zaphod said:

I tried the deer skin gloves on a waffle iron session last night. Doing waffles means reaching down to a fire ring level grate and picking up a 450F cast iron waffle maker. It's hot and there are no lifters or tongs to help - you're grabbing, flipping, shaking to remove and it has to stay at 450F or the waffles don't work.

gloves didn't work either.

gloves failed to keep my hands safe, si I went back to the old crusty ones. But I did find I can order them direct from the manufacturer so I bought 2 pair this morning. Dunno why they are no longer available at local stores, but with ANSI 3 rating, the pair I have just work.

https://www.mechanix.com/us-en/all-work-gloves/WS-FLX.html?dwvar_WS-FLX_color=tan&cgid=all-gloves-main

I'm not the type of a-hole who says SEE I TOLD YOU SO...so I won't!!!  I do have to admit though those new gloves you just ordered are d*mn near too purdy to get dirty and crusty!

I actually have a beautiful pair of really h/d red leather gloves that I bought many years ago and paid some stupid  bucks for. I just couldn't bring myself to "soil" them - so I ended up taking them to my wood working shop and use them to handle all sorts of raw wood which have kept splinters from bleeding umpteen pints of blood from my hands all of these years!

zaphod

yeah you told me - I'll admit that