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Sorta OT - Sam the Cooking Guy, zuck's Greed, and a Worldwide Decline of Community
Botch
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I know a few folks on this forum follow the entertaining, worthwhile "Sam the Cooking Guy" channel, and many more here use ewe Youtube regularly. I've found (maybe 50?) channels/creators (some hate that term) that I enjoy following/participating in, from cooking, woodworking, photography, politics, music, etc; and I spend more time on ewetube than I do watching TV (I guess I'm not alone).
ewetube was a brilliant business model, starting in a college dorm room: host a location for members' home videos, collect data on which viewers were interested in which content, and then selling that data to advertisers. I understood that's how it worked going in, and I was okay with that. zuck and his investors became wealthy, fabulously wealthy, with this business model. And you'd think they'd be happy about that.
But, No. They needed more! More Money!! More moneyyy for Us!!!! In the past year or so I've noticed that every fourth "video" is now an ad, and most if not all actual videos are prefaced with ads, even a 51-second clip from say The Lincoln Project makes you sit thru a 00:15-sec ad first (I use a Mac "App Store" program called "Swizztube" (free) to bypass the ads (even gives you visual cues to skip internal ads by the creator themselves) but it's buggy); otherwise I only watch the "Shorts" on ewetube's website (and I understand they're getting ads now too, soon).
Today's video from "Sam the Cooking Guy" was condensed down into a short format with voiceovers only, and was robbed of all its charm, I won't be following him anymore if this is the future; I posted this note in his Comments section:
The internet is still a free-for-all (for now) and content creators are free to move to a different service, but we've already seen that, as soon as a competitor gains some ground, they're bought out; imagine that's happening here too.
This is probably a good topic for Friday night; but like Happy Hour, it's Friday somewhere on the globe, right? (I think that's how it works.... )
ewetube was a brilliant business model, starting in a college dorm room: host a location for members' home videos, collect data on which viewers were interested in which content, and then selling that data to advertisers. I understood that's how it worked going in, and I was okay with that. zuck and his investors became wealthy, fabulously wealthy, with this business model. And you'd think they'd be happy about that.
But, No. They needed more! More Money!! More moneyyy for Us!!!! In the past year or so I've noticed that every fourth "video" is now an ad, and most if not all actual videos are prefaced with ads, even a 51-second clip from say The Lincoln Project makes you sit thru a 00:15-sec ad first (I use a Mac "App Store" program called "Swizztube" (free) to bypass the ads (even gives you visual cues to skip internal ads by the creator themselves) but it's buggy); otherwise I only watch the "Shorts" on ewetube's website (and I understand they're getting ads now too, soon).
Today's video from "Sam the Cooking Guy" was condensed down into a short format with voiceovers only, and was robbed of all its charm, I won't be following him anymore if this is the future; I posted this note in his Comments section:
Guys, PLEASE don't push your videos into the "Shorts" format, especially now that zuckerSuck is now pushing ads into the 30-second "Shorts" format. I also applaud you for not following YT's push for you content creators to shove your face into the thumbnail with a STUPID-ASS expression on your face, to garner more clicks. I've already deleted several longtime subscriptions because of that alone.
zuck's unbridled GREED is ruining a once-great worldwide community; please don't buckle to his demands. Please.
I'd say 90% of the other comments expressed similar concern. The internet is still a free-for-all (for now) and content creators are free to move to a different service, but we've already seen that, as soon as a competitor gains some ground, they're bought out; imagine that's happening here too.
This is probably a good topic for Friday night; but like Happy Hour, it's Friday somewhere on the globe, right? (I think that's how it works.... )
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So the same people that think humans have no effect on climate change, now are convinced they control the weather?
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Just a small correction, Botch.
Zuckerberg is not in charge of YouTube. That would be the guys over at Google. You want to blame Sergey for this one."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:Just a small correction, Botch.
Zuckerberg is not in charge of YouTube. That would be the guys over at Google. You want to blame Sergey for this one.
Guess I have some homework to do later.___________So the same people that think humans have no effect on climate change, now are convinced they control the weather?
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I pay for YouTube premium. Well worth the $11.99/month to me to avoid ads all together. I can fast forward and rewind until my hearts content.
Also, very highly recommend you listen/read The Chaos Machine. It will change your views on the entire Social Media ecosystem.
Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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Botch said:JohnInCarolina said:Just a small correction, Botch.
Zuckerberg is not in charge of YouTube. That would be the guys over at Google. You want to blame Sergey for this one.
Guess I have some homework to do later. -
I’ve done very well with Google algorithmsVisalia, Ca @lkapigian
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lkapigian said:I’ve done very well with Google algorithms
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Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads. Or some combo of the two. Newer forms of media have had grace periods to grab eyeballs, but everyone gets paid in the end, even Sam.Not a felon
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Legume said:Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads.
On the 'net, you pay cash for access, or you pay by watching ads, or you pay by letting YT figure out your own interests and selling that data to other websites for advertising purposes. And, as I stated in my OP, I was aware of that, and I was okay with that, and they got fabulously wealthy just with that business model.
But NO, that wasn't enough for them. Greed! Now you can pay them to eliminate the ads on FB, but they're still collecting your "interests data" to still sell to other websites. Or, you can put up with targeted advertising on other websites (which I accepted), but now I'm getting targeted ads shoved down my throat by FB itself! That's what I'm so effing p***ed off about. Sorry I wasn't clear.
___________So the same people that think humans have no effect on climate change, now are convinced they control the weather?
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Botch said:Legume said:Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads.
On the 'net, you pay cash for access, or you pay by watching ads, or you pay by letting YT figure out your own interests and selling that data to other websites for advertising purposes. And, as I stated in my OP, I was aware of that, and I was okay with that, and they got fabulously wealthy just with that business model.
But NO, that wasn't enough for them. Greed! Now you can pay them to eliminate the ads on FB, but they're still collecting your "interests data" to still sell to other websites. Or, you can put up with targeted advertising on other websites (which I accepted), but now I'm getting targeted ads shoved down my throat by FB itself! That's what I'm so effing p***ed off about. Sorry I wasn't clear."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
"Information wants to be free" When will they ever learn?
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JohnInCarolina said:Botch said:Legume said:Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads.
On the 'net, you pay cash for access, or you pay by watching ads, or you pay by letting YT figure out your own interests and selling that data to other websites for advertising purposes. And, as I stated in my OP, I was aware of that, and I was okay with that, and they got fabulously wealthy just with that business model.
But NO, that wasn't enough for them. Greed! Now you can pay them to eliminate the ads on FB, but they're still collecting your "interests data" to still sell to other websites. Or, you can put up with targeted advertising on other websites (which I accepted), but now I'm getting targeted ads shoved down my throat by FB itself! That's what I'm so effing p***ed off about. Sorry I wasn't clear.___________So the same people that think humans have no effect on climate change, now are convinced they control the weather?
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Botch said:JohnInCarolina said:Botch said:Legume said:Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads.
On the 'net, you pay cash for access, or you pay by watching ads, or you pay by letting YT figure out your own interests and selling that data to other websites for advertising purposes. And, as I stated in my OP, I was aware of that, and I was okay with that, and they got fabulously wealthy just with that business model.
But NO, that wasn't enough for them. Greed! Now you can pay them to eliminate the ads on FB, but they're still collecting your "interests data" to still sell to other websites. Or, you can put up with targeted advertising on other websites (which I accepted), but now I'm getting targeted ads shoved down my throat by FB itself! That's what I'm so effing p***ed off about. Sorry I wasn't clear."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
Botch said:Legume said:Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads.
On the 'net, you pay cash for access, or you pay by watching ads, or you pay by letting YT figure out your own interests and selling that data to other websites for advertising purposes. And, as I stated in my OP, I was aware of that, and I was okay with that, and they got fabulously wealthy just with that business model.
But NO, that wasn't enough for them. Greed! Now you can pay them to eliminate the ads on FB, but they're still collecting your "interests data" to still sell to other websites. Or, you can put up with targeted advertising on other websites (which I accepted), but now I'm getting targeted ads shoved down my throat by FB itself! That's what I'm so effing p***ed off about. Sorry I wasn't clear.Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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JohnInCarolina said:Botch said:JohnInCarolina said:Botch said:Legume said:Regardless of the form of media, my experience has been that nothing is totally free. You either pay for access or you pay with your time watching ads.
On the 'net, you pay cash for access, or you pay by watching ads, or you pay by letting YT figure out your own interests and selling that data to other websites for advertising purposes. And, as I stated in my OP, I was aware of that, and I was okay with that, and they got fabulously wealthy just with that business model.
But NO, that wasn't enough for them. Greed! Now you can pay them to eliminate the ads on FB, but they're still collecting your "interests data" to still sell to other websites. Or, you can put up with targeted advertising on other websites (which I accepted), but now I'm getting targeted ads shoved down my throat by FB itself! That's what I'm so effing p***ed off about. Sorry I wasn't clear.
May be time to unplug for awhile.___________So the same people that think humans have no effect on climate change, now are convinced they control the weather?
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