You are all cheating! (Gate Keeping Teacher)

Ozzie_Isaac

My daughter is taking Culinary arts in high school.  One of the questions is if your parents cook (he had been incredibly derogatory so far).  My daughter said yes my dad cooks, but since I use a Green Egg and a Sous Vide I apparently don’t actually cook, I cheat.

He also told all the kids he wouldn’t teach them to make Mexican food because it would make all the abuela’s embarrassed because they would learn their food was no good.

Ozzie_Isaac

This “teacher” keeps saying how amazing he is, he admits he has no formal training he has just worked in kitchens since high school, and yet he hasn’t actually shown them how to cook anything.  He spends the entire class saying how amazing he is and how everyone else is terrible 😂

If it were not pushing kids away from cooking and loving it, I would find it funny and sad.

WoodworkerBED

This is really unfortunate.  I believe all high school students, both boys and girls, should take both a cooking and a shop/woodworking class.

buzd504

What a waste of a great opportunity.

Botch

I've only had, maybe, two really bad teachers thru Jr High/High School.  But thinking back on it, they may have taught me some valuable lessons, and prepared me, inadvertently, for things I would experience again in Real Life.    

Legume

Sounds like an internet cook.

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MasterC

Lesson 1 How to make 3 cheese blend 

caliking

Ozzie_Isaac said:

My daughter is taking Culinary arts in high school.  One of the questions is if your parents cook (he had been incredibly derogatory so far).  My daughter said yes my dad cooks, but since I use a Green Egg and a Sous Vide I apparently don’t actually cook, I cheat.

He also told all the kids he wouldn’t teach them to make Mexican food because it would make all the abuela’s embarrassed because they would learn their food was no good.

I'd like to see him say this to an abuela, and also see exactly how she rearranges his face. 

GrateEggspectations

Ozzie_Isaac said:

My daughter is taking Culinary arts in high school.  One of the questions is if your parents cook (he had been incredibly derogatory so far).  My daughter said yes my dad cooks, but since I use a Green Egg and a Sous Vide I apparently don’t actually cook, I cheat.

He also told all the kids he wouldn’t teach them to make Mexican food because it would make all the abuela’s embarrassed because they would learn their food was no good.

Seems like a deeply ignorant statement. In the case of sous vide, it was invented and first used by a French chef in the 70s before only recently becoming commonplace in in-home application. 

GrateEggspectations

….And I’m not sure how using live fire (BGE) to cook is cheating. It is cooking in its very earliest form. 

Gulfcoastguy

It’s about like the qualifications to be a: math teacher, a science teacher, or foreign language teacher. In other words a general education degree.

fishlessman

Ozzie_Isaac said:

My daughter is taking Culinary arts in high school.  One of the questions is if your parents cook (he had been incredibly derogatory so far).  My daughter said yes my dad cooks, but since I use a Green Egg and a Sous Vide I apparently don’t actually cook, I cheat.

He also told all the kids he wouldn’t teach them to make Mexican food because it would make all the abuela’s embarrassed because they would learn their food was no good.

hired an 18 yo kid this summer that graduated in metal fab from a nearby voke. cant find 5 and a 1/2 inch on a ruler i supplied him. doesnt matter, he cut the end off the tape in the shear and doesnt understand why it no longer works. heads to college on thursday taking hvac classes on a college like campus with dorms, was told anyone can pass it by his instructors he is in for an awakening

Legume

Gulfcoastguy said:

It’s about like the qualifications to be a: math teacher, a science teacher, or foreign language teacher. In other words a general education degree.

Depends on the state.  In Texas I believe to teach HS you first need a BS in the core subject and then a teaching certification on top of that.

Ozzie_Isaac

Qualifications seemed to be “breathing”. It’s like he wants to be Thomas Keller and Gordon Ramsey, minus the talent part.

He hasn’t actually shown them anything at all.  He just sits up font and talks at the kids.  Completely bizarre.

DoubleEgger

My AP US History teacher schooled the wrestling coach with the following:

Just because your face looks like a hubcap, it doesn’t make you a big wheel around here.” 

That one still stings 30 years later. Seems appropriate for this guy. 

Ozzie_Isaac

fishlessman said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

My daughter is taking Culinary arts in high school.  One of the questions is if your parents cook (he had been incredibly derogatory so far).  My daughter said yes my dad cooks, but since I use a Green Egg and a Sous Vide I apparently don’t actually cook, I cheat.

He also told all the kids he wouldn’t teach them to make Mexican food because it would make all the abuela’s embarrassed because they would learn their food was no good.

hired an 18 yo kid this summer that graduated in metal fab from a nearby voke. cant find 5 and a 1/2 inch on a ruler i supplied him. doesnt matter, he cut the end off the tape in the shear and doesnt understand why it no longer works. heads to college on thursday taking hvac classes on a college like campus with dorms, was told anyone can pass it by his instructors he is in for an awakening

I taught the lab portion (the actual machining part) of a machine shop class  at the University of Arizona for 3 years.  The complete lack of hands on experience mechanical engineers had was absolutely astounding.  We had some farm kids who came in and they knew how to get stuff done, then we had book smart kids who had never used a screwdriver!!?!!  We used to ask them to go to the tool crib and get a metric crescent wrench.  Some kids got it and laughed, other kids would go in to the crib and rummage around for 30 minutes and come back and say all we could find was this 6” and this 8” crescent wrench!  I had to teach these kids how to use a lathe, mill, weld, etc a without them killing or maiming themselves or someone else.

The crescent wrench joke was a quick way to gauge which type kid we were dealing with.

By the end they could all do it safely, we didn’t want them going out into the world and not know how to communicate with machine shops or machinists.

Botch

Ozzie_Isaac said:
...then we had book smart kids who had never used a screwdriver!!?!!  

Witnessed that one myself in Munitions school, kid didn't know how to work a screwdriver.    

WeberWho

That's too bad. My high school made offered a couple culinary classes. A beginner and advanced. I took the beginner in 9th grade and the advanced course my senior year. The teacher makes all the difference. I had a group of friends and I that took the advanced culinary class as kind of a joke. For our final meal we proposed to the teacher that we were going to make spaghetti. He said, "Absolutely not." We finally convinced him that spaghetti was okay but he said that the sauce needs to be made from scratch. Which we told him of course. (A heavy portion of our final grade for the class was based on our final meal.) We went back to our kitchen a few days later to make our spaghetti sauce. All of the fresh ingredients were placed in our kitchen to make the sauce from scratch. When the teacher wasn't looking my group took all the fresh ingredients and tossed them in the trash. I grabbed a big jar of Prego out of my backpack that I snuck into class. Next thing we know our scratch homemade spaghetti was done!  We were a bunch of clowns but the teacher made it fun. That's too bad that your daughters teacher isn't so fun. 

Ask you daughter if her school offers any culinary classes at a local community college. I was able to take a culinary class over at the local community college my Junior year of high school and it was awesome! An actual Chef taught the class instead of some teacher back at the high school who ended up pulling the short straw to teach the class. 

It might be worth looking into. 

lousubcap

@Ozzie_Isaac - just keep good notes and raise some concerns along the way.  Once she is clear of him then time to make the case for him to move on.  

TechsasJim

Sounds amazing.   So let’s go back the “home schooling” method, seems to have worked much better in AZ.   Once he taunts the grandmother the gloves come off…

fishlessman

i had to teach this kid how to put a tap handle on a 1/2-13 tap. next day he forgot so he used a crescent wrench, he was using the wrench on the threads, not the square end where you put the tap handle. supposedly he was taught to use a saw, weld, drill press,lathe, bridgeport etc. he broke a push broom while standing on it the other day swirling the handle around.....this is in mass. i have someone watching him basically full time. 18 and his mom wont go with him to learn to drive on his new learners permit. the guy watching over him sent him out for a left handed screw driver. the next day he was looking for a right handed one

last week i had a younger kid in maine on an extension ladder using a pole chain saw, most i had to do is help with moving the ladder and guide with  a little rigging technique. i dont know.

 i remember in college taking some machine shop, i remember this girl with 4 inch finger nails trying not to break one one a polishing machine she is an engineer now at the seabrook nuclear plant in nh

hoosier_egger

@Ozzie_Isaac sounds like my boss. I feel bad for the kids. 

ColbyLang

I could understand cheating by using a Traegar…..but an egg? Cmon man

tau_ceti

My daughter had the misfortune of having a biology teacher like that. She was a chiropractor, but an unsuccessful one and wound up getting a teaching degree (she literally had to testify before congress as part of an investigation into people who couldn’t pay off their student loans). She would spend her days telling her students how she gave up a lucrative career to help them. Unfortunately the local school district wanted to fire her because she other teachers found her impossible as well, but she won a court case and got to stay. I learned all this when I googled her to find out about her “amazing” job history.