Go ahead and kill DST clock changes. But please, PLEASE....

Botch

... do NOT switch to "permanent" DST; go back to Standard Time!!    (< note tiny little raging icon)
 
If we go to permanent DST, that will work for a lot of businesses, schools, gov't agencies, etc, 

BUT...

...that will mean the US will eternally be one hour off from the rest of the planet, which makes no g*****n sense whatsoever!  IIRC, the rest of the planet (save North Korea) is all on the same standard.  
Yeah, many "businesses, schools, gov't agencies, etc" (see above) may prefer the DST schedule, over the course of a year, but just let them change their own business hours to match their preferences.  Painful, maybe very painful, up front, but it makes much more sense to just do the painful thing right up front, and get it over with.
If we switch to "permanent DST", we will ALWAYS be one hour off from the rest of the world, which again makes not g*****n sense!  Just like sticking to the English system of measurements (which not even the English do anymore); so stupid for me to have a toolchest full of inch sockets, another full of metric sockets (oh, and a third full of Torx drivers cuz I bought a BMW, but that's my stupid fault).  Argh!  
[/screaming old man off soap box].  I'm gonna dry-brine my cheekun and do dishes now, see you guys tomorrow, in
 

 

lousubcap

@Botch- I used to be "for" until I was "against" the roll ahead to DST. (Professional poly-speak right there!!)  Living in the far western edge of the Eastern time zone the shift will have major impact on children going to school.  Around here sunrise in November-today is in the mid/late 7 AM hour.  Push that up another hour with permanent DST and that's too much dark on the front end of the day for the benefits on the back end.  
And if you live in AZ or HI it is not an issue.  
One opinion with a lawn...

JohnInCarolina

Haha Botch, please explain to me why you care so much about this WHEN YOU ARE RETIRED!

Gulfcoastguy

Probably because all of the school kids walk across his lawn, too early, on their way to school. Same here plus they set off my watch dog who bark at 100 plus decibels.

Botch

Gulfcoastguy said:

Probably because all of the school kids walk across his lawn, too early, on their way to school. Same here plus they set off my watch dog who bark at 100 plus decibels.

Actually, it's when I drive to my favorite phò restaurant and the door is locked and they won't be open for another &$^%@! hour...
And, I need to take a photo here in my 'hood tomorrow to post... 

Canugghead

fishlessman

i would be good pushing the clocks forward 2 more hours and putting the whole country on eastern standard time. dealing with west coast times sucks when youre on the east coast........

HeavyG

fishlessman said:

i would be good pushing the clocks forward 2 more hours and putting the whole country on eastern standard time. dealing with west coast times sucks when youre on the east coast........

So you want to be just like China (which is as wide as the lower 48 but has only one time zone) then eh?

Canugghead

HeavyG said:

fishlessman said:

i would be good pushing the clocks forward 2 more hours and putting the whole country on eastern standard time. dealing with west coast times sucks when youre on the east coast........

So you want to be just like China (which is as wide as the lower 48 but has only one time zone) then eh?

or India, with its famous IST (Indian Stretchable Time).

fishlessman

HeavyG said:

fishlessman said:

i would be good pushing the clocks forward 2 more hours and putting the whole country on eastern standard time. dealing with west coast times sucks when youre on the east coast........

So you want to be just like China (which is as wide as the lower 48 but has only one time zone) then eh?

It's dark out here before 4pm before I get out of work in the winter, in the summer a base ball game starts  just before 11 pm if it's west coast.....maybe china is on to something😁