my sprung, rusted, old and twisted band needs to be replaced. I called my HUGE local ACE and they had none and it would not be until this summer before they placed an order! HUH? I then asked if the ACE distribution center for the whole mid-west (a mere 50 miles from here) had any and after the helpful person checked the answer was still no! Guess I’ll just place an order with the CGS tomorrow.
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Replacement spring bands for Larges gotten any better?
RRP
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For some reason this iPad is fighting me…what I wanted to ask …after researching Here it appears those newer larger bands are crap,. Has the quality improved? Or should I just try to salvage my old band
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Ron is it truly rusted out, or simply bent at the tabs and “warped” and twisted? I just touched mine up and found a random orbital sander worked better than a right angle grinder with a wire brush. Gave it good going over and then a few coats of rust oleum. Not brand new, but good enough for another few years.Columbus, Ohio--A Gasser filled with Matchlight and an Ugly Drum.
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Well, Sir - since I already figured it was goner I was careless removing it and of course the springs took over and I'm not sure I can even get them off..though I read a cool Harley Davidson trick of using pennies to expand the coils ...IF I can even get them off that hinge! Got a hint how to do that?
BTW I'm not opposed to cleaning up and salvaging this unit if I can get get those springs off! It really isn't that twisted so I believe I can resolve that issue
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RRP said:Well, Sir - since I already figured it was goner I was careless removing it and of course the springs took over and I'm not sure I can even get them off..though I read a cool Harley Davidson trick of using pennies to expand the coils ...IF I can even get them off that hinge! Got a hint how to do that?
BTW I'm not opposed to cleaning up and salvaging this unit if I can get get those springs off! It really isn't that twisted so I believe I can resolve that issue
Think it over, but I have GOT to get to bed!!!
fully open the dome to relieve pressure on the springs, you can easily pop them off prying with a screw driver with the dome open. i dont like the new band at all on my large, doesnt open as much as the old band and theres a big air gap in back now. the old bands fit tight with no gasket
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@RRP - I installed the new style bands on my large several years ago. Can you explain why you have the impression they are "crap"? Mine are of good quality. Dome alignment is easier than the old style and no adjustment has been needed since installation. Old ones would get out of alignment regularly. Your dome opening will be reduced with the new style, that takes some time to get accustomed to.The penny hack should work for your springs, but I've never tried it. My method was to remove the nut from the stud the top of the spring connects to, open the dome, then slide spring off the stud.I also purchased the bands from CGS as none were available locally.LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413GGreat Plains, USA
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The new bands are nice. Not sure who feels they are crap, or why. The amount they open, maybe?
As @dbCooper says, the open dome angle is different. I had to give up my "claw" to extract a hot platesetter, but now I just use the eggspander basket anyway.
I am one who strongly recommends the Harley spring trick. With the dome closed, or slightly raised, you can stick pennies in the spring easily. That keeps it the same length as you open it and makes removal easy. You will, however, drop a few pennies during this operation.
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I replaced the warped old bands with the new ones under warranty. (Warping was due to doing a clean burn. Shame on me.) The old ones worked fine but I got the new ones because several Eggheads said they fixed the underbite issue. They didn't. During installing the new bands I discovered that the base is out-of-round, so nothing can solve the underbite problem. If I align in the front, then it scrapes and leaks in the back.
My large Egg still has the underbite and now has reduced the dome opening. If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't bother with the new bands.Large Egg, PGS A40 gasser. -
Thanks for all the replies - but I guess I didn't get my point across - I said "I already figured it was goner I was careless removing it and of course the springs took over and I'm not sure I can even get them off".
So the hints about closing it etc don't help my problem as my old bands are laying wide open and "floppy" on my deck - NOT on my egg.
At this point I think I will give @dbCooper's advice of removing the studs and go from there! Thanks "Coop"! -
My old bands warped so I had to get the newer ones about 2 years ago. I have a slight overbite but it’s not a big deal. Not sure about quality being better or worse but I do feel the dome is more stable with the newer bands.LBGE
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Why has someone not already responded “if I had Ron’s money, I’d have half a dozen spare bands ready to go”?LBGE, 36" Blackstone, Anova ProCharleston, SC
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BigreenGreg said:Why has someone not already responded “if I had Ron’s money, I’d have half a dozen spare bands ready to go”?
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After a few years my original bands got out of whack and were a PITA to keep adjusting and developed overbite. I bought the new style and they work great, doesn’t open as wide but when fully open the springs are not under tension and can be easily removed by hand. Alignment is great and I’ve had no issues.Jacksonville FL
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Langner91 said:The new bands are nice. Not sure who feels they are crap, or why. The amount they open, maybe?
As @dbCooper says, the open dome angle is different. I had to give up my "claw" to extract a hot platesetter, but now I just use the eggspander basket anyway.
I am one who strongly recommends the Harley spring trick. With the dome closed, or slightly raised, you can stick pennies in the spring easily. That keeps it the same length as you open it and makes removal easy. You will, however, drop a few pennies during this operation. -
This is a good combo of text and video.It’s on my todo list
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Looks like fixing vs. going with a replacement is either a crap shoot or a coin flipper at best!
The biggest complaint I keep seeing is the new bands do not open as wide. Can anyone tell me about how much less? I really think that might be the real tie breaker for me. TIA -
It’s noticeable Ron, but not enough to be a problem.LBGE, 36" Blackstone, Anova ProCharleston, SC
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BigreenGreg said:It’s noticeable Ron, but not enough to be a problem.
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dont know how much and did not know until i installed. look at the above forum banner of the new egg and band. you can see how it doesnt open as high and drops back and down at the hinge area
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
the old bands almost make the egg tippy when the dome is open, the new bands make it more stable
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
fishlessman said:dont know how much and did not know until i installed. look at the above forum banner of the new egg and band. you can see how it doesnt open as high and drops back and down at the hinge area
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Ron,
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See how much the new dome is still over the base?
This blog says every accessory still fits. That is not true, the "Claw" doesn't fit. Everything else probably does.Clinton, Iowa -
@RRP - I'd say somewhere between 3 - 4 inches. It's so much of a difference that I had to shorten my homemade elevated grate in order to reach food in the back. Same with the raised pizza stone.Large Egg, PGS A40 gasser.
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RRP said:fishlessman said:dont know how much and did not know until i installed. look at the above forum banner of the new egg and band. you can see how it doesnt open as high and drops back and down at the hinge areai believe this is the only cook i may have dad difficulties with, i dropped this settup in all at once fully setup with meat. new dome and i probably would need to put it in stacking it in the egg on grid at a time
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Hard to tell, but the new bands may not be compatible with certain table setups?Large BGE and Medium BGE
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BigreenGreg said:It’s noticeable Ron, but not enough to be a problem.
its more noticeable if your egg sits on the feet on the ground. looking down you dont see as much
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Langner91 said:Ron,
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New:
See how much the new dome is still over the base?
This blog says every accessory still fits. That is not true, the "Claw" doesn't fit. Everything else probably does.
PS I'm so glad I am retired so I can fret over these BGE band issues rather than working a job!!! LOL -
That new band is how my XL opens, slides back a little while it opens. My XL is from 2013 or so, the shorter lid.Not a felon
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The new bands have tabs that prevent the dome from falling out if they get a little loose too. I don’t miss the originals at all but it’s rare I use a second grid.Jacksonville FL
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Dobie said:The new bands have tabs that prevent the dome from falling out if they get a little loose too. I don’t miss the originals at all but it’s rare I use a second grid.
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Dobie said:They were a good improvement
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