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OT - Heat pumps

BotchBotch Posts: 13,360
Earlier this summer my A/C went out.  The repairman who responded was able to cull together two smaller condensers, which replaced my old/obsolete condenser and got the system back up.  He also warned me that my A/C ran on old-style freon, was 22 years old, and should be replaced soon.  He also looked at the coils/furnace interface in my basement, and warned that much of that may have to be changed, also.  
 
Today, got an email from the same (established) company, and they're running a special on heat pumps.  Can use much of the established system, economical, and for utard the recommended system was a heat pump coupled with a small, high efficiency gas furnace (which I already have).  I had been planning on replacing the A/C unit this fall anyway.  And, they offered free groceries, gas cards, tax credits, rebates, small islands close to Italy, etc based on what I bought, my location, shoe size, etc.  
 
Will be doing some "internet research" tomorrow (I hate that term anymore, thanks Green Bay Bun-Boy) and scheduling a free estimate, but wanted to throw this out here: anyone else have a heat pump system, and how is it working for you?  
Thanks in advance.  
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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 40,589
    edited September 22
    I have some mini split inverters that are heat pumps and they work fine.  I heard the increase in mechanical complexity increases the statistical odds of failure.  If you already have a furnace I don’t think you need that increased complexity.  If the math shows big savings then may want to consider it.
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    Thanks, pal, for jumping in on here to JUST MAYBE show that this BBQ forum produces far more value to members then just smoking some cow or yard bird! 
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  • GulfcoastguyGulfcoastguy Posts: 5,285
    I have a 17 SEER Trane heat pump with a scroll compressor. Installed in 2016. It replaced a GE dinosaur 🦕 that I figured was original to the 1972 house. It slashed my electric bill drastically. Make sure to get the one that blows in 2 speeds. 
    A heat pump’s weakness is heating in very cold weather but you have a gas furnace for that.
  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 8,653
    Heat pumps are widely used in my area andI've had nothing but heat pumps and have always been happy with them. Our previous Trane ran about 15 years with almost no problems. We replaced it with a higher SEER Trane (old was a 14, new is a 17) a few years ago and haven't had any hiccups. Was surprised by the drop in electricity usage with the newer unit.
    Our winters are generally fairly mild and our unit uses electric resistance for the backup heat part. I'm guessing your Utah winters tend to be colder so whether you have gas or electricity for backup heat might be of special interest.
    Our unit generally only runs for about 7 months of the year and we're about at the point where the weather will be in the "open the windows til mid-December" point.
    Perhaps @ikapigian will chime in.
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  • Sounds like a sweet set up @Botch, I would still price check with a few other companies to make sure they are in the ball park.
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  • billt01billt01 Posts: 1,324
    I have a 17 SEER Trane heat pump with a scroll compressor. Installed in 2016. It replaced a GE dinosaur 🦕 that I figured was original to the 1972 house. It slashed my electric bill drastically. Make sure to get the one that blows in 2 speeds. 
    A heat pump’s weakness is heating in very cold weather but you have a gas furnace for that.
    "variable speed compressor"
    21 seer Rheem / 5 1/2 ton here..
    higher the seer the more money back into your pocket..
    spend some to save a lot
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
    Had:
    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

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  • GulfcoastguyGulfcoastguy Posts: 5,285
    billt01 said:
    I have a 17 SEER Trane heat pump with a scroll compressor. Installed in 2016. It replaced a GE dinosaur 🦕 that I figured was original to the 1972 house. It slashed my electric bill drastically. Make sure to get the one that blows in 2 speeds. 
    A heat pump’s weakness is heating in very cold weather but you have a gas furnace for that.
    "variable speed compressor"
    21 seer Rheem / 5 1/2 ton here..
    higher the seer the more money back into your pocket..
    spend some to save a lot
    17 was pretty impressive in 2016. At that time any higher was a calculation between increased price, reduced electric usage, and reduced reliability . We can’t all drive Porsche.
  • We have a geothermal closed loop system with three heat pumps connected to it. Have had to replace all three unit in the past 20 years, one of them twice.  All I can say is they work great for us but the whole system is very expensive!
    XL and Small BGEs in South Carolina
  • lkapigianlkapigian Posts: 9,172
    Look at doing hybrid heat assuming you are gas fired heat now, eliminates the need for back up heat strips …newer heat pumps extract heat and near zero F temps just fine The COP and HSPF are nearly double from a few years back … for ever $ spent in electricity you can get close to $2.00 worth of heat…my 2 cents 

    there are a lot of incentives in my area going heat pump, many areas do not allow Nat Gas in new construction anymore 
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  • billt01billt01 Posts: 1,324
    billt01 said:
    I have a 17 SEER Trane heat pump with a scroll compressor. Installed in 2016. It replaced a GE dinosaur 🦕 that I figured was original to the 1972 house. It slashed my electric bill drastically. Make sure to get the one that blows in 2 speeds. 
    A heat pump’s weakness is heating in very cold weather but you have a gas furnace for that.
    "variable speed compressor"
    21 seer Rheem / 5 1/2 ton here..
    higher the seer the more money back into your pocket..
    spend some to save a lot
    17 was pretty impressive in 2016. At that time any higher was a calculation between increased price, reduced electric usage, and reduced reliability . We can’t all drive Porsche.
    I moved from a 15 to the 21 and cost savings in the dead of winter were more than the summer..due to the heat pump working..

    Gas is definitely better to deliver the heat, but dries out the air a lot. 
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
    Had:
    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
    Ola, Ga

  • MotownVolMotownVol Posts: 986
    I just put in a new 16 seer Trane unit this past Monday.  Split system with gas furnace.   I priced 5 different systems and Trane was the most expensive, but not significantly more than the others.  I got 27 years out of my old Trane, so I thought if I can get 20 + years out of this one, I will be gone and the replacement of that unit will be somebody else’s problem.
    Morristown TN, LBGE and Mini-Max.
  • paqmanpaqman Posts: 4,133
    If you are getting free pizza, you are paying too much!

    I negotiated the price down on mine quite a bit.

    Warranty and service are very important so check who will be servicing your unit in case of a problem.

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  • AprèsSkiAprèsSki Posts: 108
    Botch said:
    Earlier this summer my A/C went out.   He also warned me that my A/C ran on old-style freon, was 22 years old, and should be replaced soon.  He also looked at the coils/furnace interface in my basement, and warned that much of that may have to be changed, also.  
     
    : anyone else have a heat pump system, and how is it working for you?  
    Thanks in advance.  
    I was in the exact same situation 5 years ago and was given ~18 months to get a new HVAC system. I'm local to you and got a few estimates,  Just Right Heating and Air coming through with the best options for me. With our dry air a high SEER rating is not very important and won't pay off like it does in the humid south. 

    I've had the dual fuel heat pump for 4 years and it is fantastic. Had to learn to stop setting the thermometer back so far at night as heat pumps do not like to make up big temperature swings. The variable velocity fan and the not gas dried air makes the house so comfortable. I had a humidifier before (& now) but the heat pump air just feels much more comfortable. I have my gas set point at 35 which is a good cut off between gas and electric use. The installer told me that he has his at 20 he just can't set it back at night or during the day.

    My only regret is that I sized my solar system before having the heat pump installed and I'm now about 10% shy of netzero. Go for it and if you don't have solar I can recommend a great salesman who has the technical background and not just someone selling a financial plan to buy someone else's panels. 
    Firing up my XL Big Green Egg, KJ Jr. or Weber gasser in Salt Lake City
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